When are we finally going to nerf the Colby .45 AP?

[Darkzero3802 632]

On 4/16/2025 at 1:58 PM, vsb said:

you’ve never hit 85% percent accuracy in your entire apb history bro, just say you want the gun dumpstered because it makes you mad

 

anyone whining for a ttk nerf without any buffs in exchange just straight up doesn’t understand balance

Thats what happens after 2 shoulder surgeries, one of them being rotator cuff. I am by no means in my hayday and my arm isnt as steady as it used to be. I have to live with that both in game and irl, but I know for a fact that if you have an aimbot aka 100% accuracy the gun is very broken. A gun shouldnt have a 95% use rate in a game. That means there is nothing else that can compete.

[Darkzero3802 632]

On 4/17/2025 at 3:09 AM, LilyRain said:

That is something to be grateful about. At least there is a chance vs a Cheater using .45.

What will you do if Cheaters decide to aimbot and speed-teleport with OCA, JG, CSG, N-TEC, SHAW, Euryale, Carbine, N-FA 9, etc...?

Ive seen that and seen it with a .45. It all goes back to why @MattScott and LO refuse to actually try to fix the problem.

[vsb 6193]

5 hours ago, Darkzero3802 said:

Thats what happens after 2 shoulder surgeries, one of them being rotator cuff. I am by no means in my hayday and my arm isnt as steady as it used to be. I have to live with that both in game and irl, but I know for a fact that if you have an aimbot aka 100% accuracy the gun is very broken. A gun shouldnt have a 95% use rate in a game. That means there is nothing else that can compete.

news flash - every gun is broken with an aimbot, that’s why it’s cheating 

 

tanking a gun because of cheaters is the absolute dumbest way to go about balancing

[rusphobia 0]

I have many gripes with the 45 ap, but they all tie into the same conclusion-the gun is a pocket primary. it has way too much range for something that can so easily dominate in cqc but none of the downsides from the long range exclusive weapons like the ACT 44 or RSA, and by LO's own logic pocket primaries shouldn't even exist, as they're quick to nerf the RFP and PIG for this reason, but the 45ap? lol slight acuracy dropoff nerf.

 

and to all those saying, "eVerYone will Go bAck tO FBW" FBW is perfectly fine as it is, you're just coping at the prospect of having your clutch gun nerfed :) 

[Noob_Guardian 420]

On 4/17/2025 at 3:21 AM, LilyRain said:

Fr0g's slightly extra damage over 200 helps it reach 15 meters than a flat 12m. A great deal in exchange for 3 additional bullets, giving fr0g the ability to kill 2 players before the need to reload. People seem to always neglect that .45 can kill only 1 player at a time. A major weakness in APB, the game where going solo is purposefully made a death sentence.

'Not good enough to face a Cheater using a 0.8s ttk weapon on your own? No problem. Just rush the Cheater because health-Cheats do not exist. He factually can't kill 2 people at once with .45. He WILL DIE like anyone else'.
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Having extra damage is like having more computer memory. It is of no benefit unless to cross a new milestone threshold. In the case of secondaries, we can't freely equip mods like Heavy Barrel to transform any extra damage into useable benefit.

The extra damage .45 does compared to Fr0g (225 vs 210) is enough to bypass Kevlar ONE, which realistically nobody equips. This further solidifies the qualities Fr0g has over 45.

huh they must have buffed it by 10 damage. It used to be -exactly- 200. thank god.

[Noob_Guardian 420]

On 4/18/2025 at 4:31 AM, Ardita said:

@LilyRain  

:trollface: I miss the trollface emotes

[Darkzero3802 632]

On 4/19/2025 at 5:55 PM, vsb said:

news flash - every gun is broken with an aimbot, that’s why it’s cheating 

 

tanking a gun because of cheaters is the absolute dumbest way to go about balancing

News flash. Some are more broken then others, mainly ones that are op or broken to begin with. For example, whats more broken at range? A scout or an HVR? The point here is that the .45 is broken normally and shouldnt be so powerful. 95% equip rate is beyond a symbol of meta, its a sign that no other secondary can compete and they arent worth anything. In a properly balanced world 50% equip rate is high with how many secondaries are out there.
Another example. At CQB range in APB what is the gun of choice? a PMG or a shottie? A PMG will always be the gun of choice cause its also broken. APB gun balancing is beyond broken and the last few gun changes have done little to fix that. The .45 is in that broken tier and there are ways to abuse it. A nerf is needed to bring it down from broken status and to bring up other secondaries to make them viable otherwise why have them in the game at all?

[Weaboos 91]

The moment .45 gets nerfed everyone will jump the buffed frog pistols for the same cq performance

[koenyboy500 61]

2 hours ago, Weaboos said:

The moment .45 gets nerfed everyone will jump the buffed frog pistols for the same cq performance

I hardly find myself getting tilted against someone who would use FR0G weaponry. AND I would feel like I had a big chance in beating them.
Hell, if I find myself losing to that with an SMG I'll try to kill them from a longer range to make sure they need +1 extra shot.

[Ysaline 35]

8 hours ago, koenyboy500 said:

I hardly find myself getting tilted against someone who would use FR0G weaponry. AND I would feel like I had a big chance in beating them.
Hell, if I find myself losing to that with an SMG I'll try to kill them from a longer range to make sure they need +1 extra shot.

Agreed. FR0G is balanced to APB standards, the low range and lower dmg then 45. make it so. 

Edited May 2 by Ysaline

[Noob_Guardian 420]

On 5/1/2025 at 3:16 PM, Weaboos said:

The moment .45 gets nerfed everyone will jump the buffed frog pistols for the same cq performance

except that Fr0g is honestly pretty well balanced, sure it has better CQC, but the FBW outperforms at 15-30m. NFA outperforms sub 5, and PDW is ok-ish against it.

[Weaboos 91]

21 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said:

except that Fr0g is honestly pretty well balanced, sure it has better CQC, but the FBW outperforms at 15-30m. NFA outperforms sub 5, and PDW is ok-ish against it.

As much as I'd love to see .45 getting fixed I'm just stating what's gonna happen and then the next weapon of choice for complaining will be the frog

Adding a 5 shot 0.8 TTK pistol moments after they nerfed the previous one was a stupid decision but we all know why they did it

Edited yesterday at 04:28 PM by Weaboos

[koenyboy500 61]

2 hours ago, Weaboos said:

As much as I'd love to see .45 getting fixed I'm just stating what's gonna happen and then the next weapon of choice for complaining will be the frog

Adding a 5 shot 0.8 TTK pistol moments after they nerfed the previous one was a stupid decision but we all know why they did it

My guy, no one is gonna complain about a dang Mountie or PDW or N-FA.

Not about FBW, not about Showstopper.

People are already saying the FR0G would be a fair thing to go up against...

 

I COULD however see people complain about the Joker-RFP or the OCA-Nano if they really went looking for something to complain on but c'mon man. We ain't petty. But .45 crosses a clear line.

[Weaboos 91]

16 minutes ago, koenyboy500 said:

My guy, no one is gonna complain about a dang Mountie or PDW or N-FA.

Not about FBW, not about Showstopper.

People are already saying the FR0G would be a fair thing to go up against...

 

I COULD however see people complain about the Joker-RFP or the OCA-Nano if they really went looking for something to complain on but c'mon man. We ain't petty. But .45 crosses a clear line.

Never said anyone would complain about Mountie, PDW or N-FA as neither of these weapons are being used in any meaningful number and are not worth talking about. FBW is probably the most balanced secondary currently if anything they should be balancing other secondaries around it. And complaining about current Nano is just lol. But the moment good players start maining frog post .45 nerf is the moment complaints on forums will start by people getting killed in 5 shots under 0.8 sec. like they are now from .45.

[koenyboy500 61]

Oh my apoligies, hold on. I'll get a list of every single secondary so I can list them all for you under the label of that these weapons are not really a problem.

Bar maybe the Joker-RFP then, and  if you're so sure about the Nano I'll put it in the list of "These are okay secondaries" along with the rest.

[vsb 6193]

11 hours ago, koenyboy500 said:

People are already saying the FR0G would be a fair thing to go up against...

half the people in this thread have specifically said the .45 is too strong in cqc

 

guess which gun has the exact same performance in cqc as the .45 

 

i give it a week before the complainers realize they’re still getting outplayed by the same players except with a fr0g instead, and the nerf campaign begins again

[Ardita 162]

3 hours ago, vsb said:

half the people in this thread have specifically said the .45 is too strong in cqc

 

guess which gun has the exact same performance in cqc as the .45 

 

i give it a week before the complainers realize they’re still getting outplayed by the same players except with a fr0g instead, and the nerf campaign begins again

You'll probably have to wait much longer than that sweetheart