Talla 85 Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) @MageLO @MattScott This evening, I've been playing matches only against suspected cheaters (a.k.a. silver players who are very bad at the game, but won't miss any shots). I suspect I was falsely flagged with cheats points. I checked the TOS and the SARD FAQ to verify what could have caused this. https://www.gamersfirst.com/apb/news/2024/8/14/sard-faq Then I read this paragraph and got scared : How does the SARD Anti-Cheat AI module work? SARD AI is purpose-built to detect cheats in games and employs AI/ML modules that have been trained using data provided by the game. This training enables SARD AI to identify a wide range of cheats effectively. SARD AI utilizes image processing, mouse movement analysis, and keyboard input tracking to understand and learn typical behavior exhibited by legitimate players. By establishing a baseline of normal player behavior, the system can then flag any abnormal activities or deviations from this baseline. When SARD AI detects suspicious behavior indicative of cheating, it provides actionable insights to game administrators or developers. These insights can be used to take appropriate actions against cheaters, such as issuing warnings, temporary suspensions, or permanent bans from the game. I've been wondering if players using uncommon input devices (ex: trackpad, trackball, analog keyboards, etc.) could classify as abnormal player behavior. Edited December 30, 2024 by Talla Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6175 Posted December 30, 2024 SARD's probably still not on and you're just facing the normal dregs of apb pop. Last I checked it didn't even block autoit scripts, so any moron can download the first color triggerbot they find on google and go ham ingame. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 436 Posted December 30, 2024 I have been wondering both if sard was active in NA, which matt wont confirm, and or that somehow I have cheat points, because I am constantly being matched with cheats. I dont run macro, i have gamer mouse set to about 2500dpi, other than LMB the mouse wheel is set to fire. but i rarely use it. I do holler allot about golds but I think Ive had to play those same bunch of silvers that dont miss. The main reasons i would cry about golds is the math and pool of golds existing in the past and the curve to out score them, combined with the large pool of hax, i dont see how it could be done legally outside of exploit. I think that having golds on my team will automatically dethreat me or keep me from up threating. Most say its very easy to get gold, so either they are lying to cover up the hax or the threat system has stagnated my account, being 10 yrs old. I might add I seen a speed hack in na yesterday but couldn't get the name, plus with 91ms I can't really judge people they moved about 40 meters instantly into a car, i was just sitting in the park chilling. n it was a silver Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtdred 241 Posted December 30, 2024 (edited) SARD doesn't work at all. I face aimboters/rage hackers all the time. In fact, since LO said SARD was enabled, cheaters pop increased. Edited December 30, 2024 by Uhtdred Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 171 Posted December 31, 2024 (edited) 8 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said: I have been wondering both if sard was active in NA, which matt wont confirm, and or that somehow I have cheat points, because I am constantly being matched with cheats. So yeah ,.. this is not a great message.. I personally do not know if SARD is up and running on the NA Servers. Above my pay grade... but a lack of messaging only invites "Tin Foil" hats EDIT: I am not a conspiratorial type of a person ..... I have a dog. Edited December 31, 2024 by Westford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 436 Posted December 31, 2024 13 hours ago, Westford said: "Tin Foil" hats You're right. The lack of Facts provided, induces insinuations based on ignorance. It is possible that, with NA pop so low compared to EU, that sard needs more time to analyze than in EU. It is possible that LO is being quiet about it for a reason, possibly to give them enough rope for the analysis to incriminate them. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites