Mitne 724 Posted July 11, 2018 12 hours ago, Zealocke said: You have a point. So , should we start a "nerf the oca" thread and watch the forum burn? Nerfing OCA would most likely kill it at current stage. In my opinion most of SMGs should be nerfed or balanced in some way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted July 11, 2018 Reverting the OCA to pre-buff status would make it a direct downgrade to the PMG. As is, it has a faster TTK, but less range... seems fair. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted July 11, 2018 God this thread... the only thing we need is that the new guy in charge of "balance" read all of this bullcrap and feed up from it and start craping all the game with balances like we are going to see with nhvr and shotguns. That will be the very end of apb. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zealocke 53 Posted July 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Tobii said: old stats http://apbdb.com/items/Weapon_SMG_OCA-SD_Slot1/ new stats https://db.apbvault.net/items/Weapon_SMG_OCA-SD_Slot1_Armas The buff wasn't really needed since the OCA was fine. So instead of nerfing.. just revert the buff..? I agree Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted July 11, 2018 6 minutes ago, CookiePuss said: Reverting the OCA to pre-buff status would make it a direct downgrade to the PMG. As is, it has a faster TTK, but less range... seems fair. pmg is far more rng dependant, and missed shots add up very quickly i think they were both balanced pretty well at .7s Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted July 11, 2018 1 minute ago, BXNNXD said: pmg is far more rng dependant, and missed shots add up very quickly i think they were both balanced pretty well at .7s revert the ttk buff, but give the OCA 35m range and I'd be ok with it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6174 Posted July 11, 2018 Just now, CookiePuss said: 2 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: pmg is far more rng dependant, and missed shots add up very quickly i think they were both balanced pretty well at .7s revert the ttk buff, but give the OCA 35m range and I'd be ok with it i think that would be fine, if ultimately useless - shooting at 35m targets is not recommended with oca lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scaredofsnakes 52 Posted July 11, 2018 Not that hard to outplay it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spy 152 Posted July 11, 2018 On 7/10/2018 at 6:22 PM, vsonyp0wer-xyz said: Now the gun destroys anything its impossible to 1V1 even with a CSG20 or TAS20. NFAS :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zealocke 53 Posted July 12, 2018 21 hours ago, CookiePuss said: 21 hours ago, BXNNXD said: pmg is far more rng dependant, and missed shots add up very quickly i think they were both balanced pretty well at .7s revert the ttk buff, but give the OCA 35m range and I'd be ok with it NERF IT TO THE GROUND!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5382 Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Zealocke said: NERF IT TO THE GROUND!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites