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ARMAS is missing many details, Fix Them. # ARMASOverhaul

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Hey, Alisha here.

 

I don't exactly know how to describe this, but sometimes i start to check Every Single Detail about the game, about ARMAS, and what makes me annoyed and disgusted is that, meanwehile the game is F2P, which i can understand many things could have been planned but are too much complicated to get released sonner, ARMAS doesn't have free items.

With that i mean it Must need more attention behind, because peoples spends money inside it.

 

November 26, 2019 - 5 months ago

I have sent a ticket, asking to adjust some of the mess stuff, and i got answered with:

"We are in the process of updating this information and working on an overhaul of the ARMAS Marketplace. We do not have an estimate as to when this will be completed, and thank you for your patience as we resolve the issue."

 

Still, as of today, April 13th 2020, no change has been made to fix the issue reported from me, and im not talking about complicated steps, anyone that has knowledge or know how to read can fix and write that up, solving it.

I don't know what are the blockers here honestly.

 

I've been waiting day after day, hoping for that to happen, but sadly isn't.

 

But, wait, they have updated several times ARMAS to accomodate new guns, items, legendaries, still they didn't picked up the opportunity to fix what i reported? 😕

I don't know, that seems very strange.

More time will past, more items they will add, more errors and missing things there could be.

They still miss to write everything inside new ones as you will see down below.

 

Shouldn't be there an exact team/person that works behind ARMAS and make all the updates/changes?

Or how it works? The same team of the game makes them?

Because it seems like nobody is behind there except for new items. (no offenses)

 

I will post here "some" examples, i could miss out some of them, due to the high number.

 

Remember that some have been added only inside this topic.

 

ARMAS Marketplace Cagetories
Weapons;
1. CASE 'The Bolo' NFCP 3 - Missing gun statistics;
2. SWARM 'Killer Bee' - Missing gun statistics;
3. SWARM 'Yellow Jacket' - Missing gun statistics;
4. SWARM 'Locust' - Missing gun statistics;
5. Mountie 'Nunavut' - Missing gun statistics;
6. Mountie 'NorthWest' - Missing gun statistics;
7. Showstopper - Missing gun statistics;
8. Norseman 'Hel' - Missing gun statistics;
9. Norseman 'Hoenir' - Missing gun statistics;
10. Norseman 'Tyr' - Missing gun statistics;
11. Shredder SB R&D III - Missing gun statistics;
12. Obeya SLR762 'Broadside' - Missing gun statistics;
13. Shredder SB R&D III - Missing gun statistics.

Joker:
1. RHD LS1 'Corsair' has 100 JT as reward written in the description while all other JMB's doesn't have the same description, still it's listed under the Patch 1.20.0 (1227)(Easter Patch Announcement) - "Added a guaranteed 100 JT to all JMB";
2. RHD LS1 'Corsair' - Missing gun statistics;
3. NTEC-7 Compact 'New Glory' - Missing gun statistics;
4. Mountie SF9 'Yukon' has the tag "NEW!" inside it's page when it isn't anymore + missing gun statistics;
5. AMG-556 “Medusa!” has the tag "NEW!" inside it's page when it isn't anymore + missing modification icon (Intelligent Recoil Stabilize);
6. Raptor 45 'Condor' has the tag "NEW!" inside it's page when it isn't anymore;
7. AAEPD Volcano JC - Missing gun statistics;
8. Obeya CAP40 'The Sergeant' has the tag "NEW!" inside it's page when it isn't anymore
9. N-TEC 7 'Ursus' - Wrong modification icon on Statistics, it isn't a Hunting Sight 1 but a 3-Post Dot Sight;
10. OCSP 'Kommandant' - Missing gun statistics;
11. EOL (All Versions) - Missing guns statistics;
12. UL-3 (All Versions) - Missing guns statistics;
13. Showstopper 'Thunder' - Missing gun statistics;
14. N-HVR 243 'Sitting Duck' - Missing gun statistics;
15. Colby M-1922 'Hazardous' - Missing gun statistics;
16. OCA Nano 'Connoisseur' - Missing gun statistics;
17. N-HVR 243 SD 'Reaper' - Missing gun statistics;
18. Firework Launcher - Missing gun statistics;
19. NCR-762 'Anubis' Adeen - Missing gun statistics;
20. Colby Commander - Missing gun statistics;
21. NFAS-12 'True Ogre' - Missing gun statistics.

Services:
1. Premium (All Versions) has the old "50% reduced cooldown on activated abilities!" still in the description;
2. Key to the City Pack - Missing guns statistics;
4. Key to the World Pack - Missing guns statistics.

Skins:
1. All National Flags Skins have the same description.. a bit of unique style for each one? Maybe adding small easter eggs or words in that language?;
2. All Casino Skins have the same description;
3. Rainbow Skin Pack has the tag "Limited time only!" but is there since years.

Gear:
1. Leather Ankle Boots - Missing description;
2. Armored Bonus Pack (Criminal and Enforcer) - Missing gun statistics;
3. Impact Bonus Pack (Enforcer and Criminal) - Missing gun statistics;
4. Paramilitary Bonus Pack (Enforcer and Criminal) - Missing gun statistics;
5. Tactical Gear Bonus Pack (Criminal and Enforcer) - Missing gun statistics;
6. Wargear Bonus Pack (Criminal and Enforcer) - Missing gun statistics;
7. Both Criminal and Enforcer Urban RX Bundles - Missing gun statistics;
8. Armored Urban Warfare Pack - Missing gun statistics;
9. Both Guerra Libero and Vigilum LE Bundles - Missing gun statistics;
10. Impact Urban Warfare Pack - Missing gun statistics;
11. Paramilitary Urban Warfare Pack - Missing gun statistics;
12. Punk Clothing Pack - Missing gun statistics;
13. Tactical Urban Warfare Pack - Missing gun statistics.

Vehicles:
1. V20 Nightrider 4A - Missing vehicle statistics;
2. V20 Patriot Pursuit Special - Missing vehicle statistics;
3. Vegas G20 'Gumshoe' 4x4 has old images showing the car with the Police Lights when it doesn't have them on top of the roof anymore;
4. Vegas Rocker Bundle w/ Vegas Rhino 4x4 - Missing gun statistics;
5. Vegas Rocker Kit - Missing gun statistics.

Other issues:
Some guns have the text "Stats coming soon..." since years.
Many vehicles doesn't have the description saying that they have 4 open slots.
Even some of them has different type of color description and strange difference between Statistics Graphics UI, all mixed up.
Still all of the products missing bigger previews and a short video about the product interested.
Useless texts like "PREMIUM DISCOUNT NOT APPLICABLE", we do know, if there isn't any discount symbol with written -20% / -50%, that isn't needed.
Some products have "Account Lifetime" in the name while others don't have it at all and others have it only inside their page, why? That makes no sense, at all.

 

After checking the ARMAS Marketplace for approx. 5 hours for verifying if all the issues were still there, and they are.

The problem is if someone gets confused and buy something isn't secure of.

Happened alredy to me, why should i join/login inside Social for check statistics or a decent image, or open the browser and check on youtube about a video showing it off when i could do everything inside the ARMAS itself, because it is possible.

 

So.. at this point my question is..

Is this ARMAS overhaul coming? Are these issues going to ever be fixed/adjusted?

I know, i sound a bit exagerated, but this is how it should work, no? Am i wrong? I spent and will spend money into it, that means the service should be Pure Gold, no excuses acceptable.

 

Thanks for reading.

I just love this game, what should i do? Shut my mouth? Nah.

 

PS oh btw the C9S has a wrong name inside it's description on the Joker Store Distribution, copy pasted from the other C9.

@MattScott

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Hi Alisha,

 

Your criticism is fair. But I think you're making massive assumptions about our content management tools.

 

The CMS used to administrate ARMAS and those items was home grown. It is ridiculously clunky and slow based on ancient tech.

 

Back in November we had a plan to clean everything up by importing newly formatted descriptions directly from exported game data. However that effort turned out to be a bust because some of the items on ARMAS were hand edited with flavor text in addition to the stats. We then backed up to start looking at a rewrite of the CMS (or entirely scrapping ARMAS and moving to a new store platform), but that effort quickly got put on hold when everyone was put on the Engine Upgrade.

 

At this point there can only be a single #1 priority.

 

Thanks,
Matt

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31 minutes ago, MattScott said:

Hi Alisha,

 

Your criticism is fair. But I think you're making massive assumptions about our content management tools.

 

The CMS used to administrate ARMAS and those items was home grown. It is ridiculously clunky and slow based on ancient tech.

 

Back in November we had a plan to clean everything up by importing newly formatted descriptions directly from exported game data. However that effort turned out to be a bust because some of the items on ARMAS were hand edited with flavor text in addition to the stats. We then backed up to start looking at a rewrite of the CMS (or entirely scrapping ARMAS and moving to a new store platform), but that effort quickly got put on hold when everyone was put on the Engine Upgrade.

 

At this point there can only be a single #1 priority.

 

Thanks,
Matt

Hey Matt, thank you very much for your response, i appreciated that.

 

While i understand i need to say that they are facts i see right now since a long time, just that, im not assuming nothing, i just said "it seems", because the situation appear to be that, i honestly don't know at all what's happening behind the scenes and now thanks to you i do.

 

So.. this is a secondary question.

Even ARMAS Marketplace guys works on Engine Upgrade?

 

It's okay for the #1 proprity which is the thing we alredy know, but are these going to be addressed when this priority will end?

 

Again, thank you very much for your time.

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10 hours ago, AlishaAzure said:

Hey Matt, thank you very much for your response, i appreciated that.

 

While i understand i need to say that they are facts i see right now since a long time, just that, im not assuming nothing, i just said "it seems", because the situation appear to be that, i honestly don't know at all what's happening behind the scenes and now thanks to you i do.

 

So.. this is a secondary question.

Even ARMAS Marketplace guys works on Engine Upgrade?

 

It's okay for the #1 proprity which is the thing we alredy know, but are these going to be addressed when this priority will end?

 

Again, thank you very much for your time.

 

if you really think there is/was a guy just working on armas marketplace you overestimate the teamsize by alot xD

 

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12 hours ago, AlishaAzure said:

Hey Matt, thank you very much for your response, i appreciated that.

 

While i understand i need to say that they are facts i see right now since a long time, just that, im not assuming nothing, i just said "it seems", because the situation appear to be that, i honestly don't know at all what's happening behind the scenes and now thanks to you i do.

 

So.. this is a secondary question.

Even ARMAS Marketplace guys works on Engine Upgrade?

 

It's okay for the #1 proprity which is the thing we alredy know, but are these going to be addressed when this priority will end?

 

Again, thank you very much for your time.

They have stated numerous times what their current focus was in nearly all other issues that have been pointed out to them. If the entire team is working on the engine upgrade, then all of the software engineers are busy on it and don't have time to fix something that, sure, is unfinished, but ultimately works. You can buy stuff on the marketplace, but you can't however play APB on Unreal 3.5 at the moment.

Adding new content requires a lot less work than to fix things that already exist, and it pays the bills, hence why they still do it.

You of all people should know that their announced roadmap was to get the engine upgrade out the door as fast as possible so they can try to bring the game back to life, and then to start fixing all the little things that are wrong, such as what you've pointed out in your OP. Be patient, point these things out when they'll have time to fix them, and you'll get what you want. I have my own fair share of little complaints that need fixing, but now is not the time to bother the staff with them. Now is the time to cheer Little Orbit on and patiently wait for them to ask us feedback on the open beta, when that happens.

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4 hours ago, HardStyler3 said:

 

if you really think there is/was a guy just working on armas marketplace you overestimate the teamsize by alot xD

 

I think there are some guys, who should be? Aliens running the website?

But this isn't the point, the point i meant was, i thought there was different peoples for the engine And for the ARMAS, you know, logically who runs armas and update it is just.. a web designer/employee, not a developer of the game itself, which should do other things instead of that.

 

2 hours ago, Catgorl said:

They have stated numerous times what their current focus was in nearly all other issues that have been pointed out to them. If the entire team is working on the engine upgrade, then all of the software engineers are busy on it and don't have time to fix something that, sure, is unfinished, but ultimately works. You can buy stuff on the marketplace, but you can't however play APB on Unreal 3.5 at the moment.

Adding new content requires a lot less work than to fix things that already exist, and it pays the bills, hence why they still do it.

You of all people should know that their announced roadmap was to get the engine upgrade out the door as fast as possible so they can try to bring the game back to life, and then to start fixing all the little things that are wrong, such as what you've pointed out in your OP. Be patient, point these things out when they'll have time to fix them, and you'll get what you want. I have my own fair share of little complaints that need fixing, but now is not the time to bother the staff with them. Now is the time to cheer Little Orbit on and patiently wait for them to ask us feedback on the open beta, when that happens.

Yeah it works, i've got no problems with it, i just posted things that are missing and pointed out my thoughts on those.

I know i can't play 3.5, it isn't finished yet, who talked about it?

 

Depends, is not that easy to do the 3.5 conversion as you seen.

Especially when they have all the codes fucked up from the previous companies.

 

Im not even talking about the roadmap, again.

I know pretty much everything about these things, i always follow LO moves, i just pointed out my thoughts about ARMAS state.

 

The Engine Upgrade will not bring back to life the game, that's why they bringing also new contacts and more stuff, it definetely helps it, but if they would bring only it, meh i don't know, it doesn't change nothing inside the game except the opmization and a bit the visuals.

 

I am the most patient person inside this community, i just pointed out my thoughts about ARMAS state (third time).

I have alredy what i want, a beautiful game free to play where i can have fun with my friends.

I didn't written down all those things for Me, or for you, but for everyone.

 

Don't worry, i will be speedy on sharing my feedback about the beta of the engine.

 

I think sometimes peoples don't really get the point on why i write so many topics or ask many questions.

And is not to have more points or reputation, i don't really care about these things.

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Since this is a source of income, they should at least attempt to make all new additions correct going forward, then later after the EU make an effort to clean it up

 

 

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41 minutes ago, Farbon Ciber said:

Since this is a source of income, they should at least attempt to make all new additions correct going forward, then later after the EU make an effort to clean it up

 

 

yeah, and is there the problem, even on newer items there are errors, so everytime they queue up all together, it will be the hell to fix all that stuff at the end.

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This topic has been closed as per OP's request.

 

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