Omega101

95% of all cheating in game is from bots (macros). Beside trigger bots, the use of fastrunjumpcarryitems bots, Kangaroojumpcarry bots, Weaponswap bots, Fastcasereload bots and superthrow bots are the top fiive(5) you see in almost every match.. There is no reason or excuse to use any bot in APB, The only reasiuon or justification for a bot is to grind/farm mats in MMOs,

Actually I tried to play today, was 109 people world wide. 60 were in social. In game 13 Enf 8 Crm. I jumped in with my crim and instantly started lag. it was impossible to drive much less shoot. I have nit see it this bad in years (and i have been playing since 2009). Before Christmas the pop was double and there was no lag. But even then of you jumped into a game you would only find 1 dist close to being full. What ever patches LO did, has caused major issues with the PC version.

Ok, lets go back to the beginning. what I am trying to find is simply a posted rule or a gm's statement that "name shaming in district, in game is a bannable offence. I want to find this as I have a vested interest in proving that it is a bannable offence. So far all we have are statements and opinions from other players that assert that it should be bannable, but no one as shown that it is officially. As far as the statements that you can not tell if some one is cheating, that is absolutely false. Ignore the tag that shows I have been playing since RTWCB and keep in mind that hacks are NOT the only cheat type. When a player is Botting you see it instantly, Remember that botting is the use of macros or anything that mimics a macro. For example if you see a player using a quick switch bot, switching the weapon from had to hand firing on each hand that is botting so the use of the "team watch then /report" is valid. when a player is griefing you see that instantly. When you are in a battle and see your teammate dancing with the enemy, driving away so they can leach or otherwise refusing to aid in the battle. Or when you see a grey player from the same clan as the enemy blocking the objectives or ramming you or otherwise interfering in the mission. so the use of the "team watch then /report" is valid. When a player is exploiting you can see you see a player use a superjump bot to place the item where it can not be reached or glitching it where it can not be retrieved without cheating. Or using your grey status to interfere with a match you are not part of. OR simply doing something that exploits the game mechanics to give you an advantage. all of these are obvious cheats but most players do beleave that only hacks are banned, so the use of the "team watch then /report" is not just valid but necessary as every time I have seen it used there was a description as to what to look for. How many times have you seen a player fast run carry a heavy item? See most players do not know that using a fastruncarry bot is bannable as it is botting and exploiting. Without some one saying "team watch XX /report he is using a fastruncarry bot" most players would not know that it is cheating or that under the exploit rule of grouping with a cheater by the cheats teammates not reporting or leaving the group. There were no unfair bans, the ones complaining or refused or were ignorant of the rules because they thought that only hackers are banned. Now, please someone post a link to an official statement that says "name shaming in game (not on forums) is bannable" I need this before Sat so i can prove my bet that it is. Merged. "don't create a hostile environment" is not proof as its the same is yelling "stop wife beating" in public, the only ones to answer are the wife beaters and are the only ones that it could be hostile to. So the only ones that get upset about cheaters getting pointed out are the cheaters. Remove the cheaters and there is no hostile environment created.

as others have said, a complete re-balance. The vegas is to heavy for the speed of that car. It need to be lighter, it should no be able to ram any heavy vehicle without taking major damage. Its a race care not a hover tank. And the new money store vehicles are OP in weight and speed. I pioneer should not be able to keep up with any of the sports car class unless nitro is used.

Merged. please explain how name and shame would be frowned upon? when we get OP i look at load out of the enemy team and tell the team watch out x is using a voc, y is using rockets, z uses his car bomb. thus allowing players to adjust tactics for the battle. When some on says that X1 is a botter/hack/exploit/grief i adjust my load out to say a GL so that I do not need LOS to kill the enemy. Or hear that Z1 is a grief so will adjust my playstyle as we will not be getting aid from Z1. How is gaining tactical information on the team/enemy an issue to be frowned on?

exactly, also there is not a large enough POP playing anymore to play in a BR. look at the current status of the non-standard game servers. Other than social and the dist (now days there is only enough players for one dist) most player avoid the other types because they will not feed the high/max rank player's loadouts or feed the cheats. Why would nay one go into a BR where a cheats will simply be spinning around autokilling everyone else. Until LO handles the cheat epidemic no one but the cheats would enter a BR much less be able to get new players to try. APB is known as a cheats game so there will be no pop growth until LO fixes the existing problems or pushes the new engine. BR is the last thing they should be working on.

So basically as long as you do not create a tag that lists a player(s) as a cheat and spray a tag it is not bannable. I had shown the forum rules to the Dm. his response was: that is not saying you cant call someone a cheater, also thats on a forum not in game. "no soup for you." MartinPL, The post really does not have anything, as offensive is not defined. I find it offensive when a player pulls next to me blasting crap music and has ear bleed kill themes. thus, pointing out cheaters is not harassment or offensive (except to the cheater) And when a cheater is pointed out in dist, i will check when playing with or against them. Then (depending on the type of cheat) I will /report them and tell the team I am not going to feed the cheat, so I abandon the mission so the team can have a chance to have a counter cheat get called in as backup. What I find offensive are players that will simply stay in the match and simple run away so as not to feed the cheat, they do not realize that not fighting and not abandoning the mission is in its self cheating. What I need is a hard ruling some where that states that pointing out a cheater in game, in dist, is a bannable offence.

So the bottom line is that pointing out actual cheaters in game is not a bannable act. Darn, guess not shield for me. Also I have never see a mob form because of a cheater being called out, as the rest of the dist will usually agree that the cheater is, and simply state "welcome the APB, cheaters are part of the game"

I am trying to find where it is stated. I know in game you will hear players and DM's (yest they exist, just that white whales are spotted more often than DMs) state that I is banable as it is against the code of conduct. A group of us playing on FG were having a discussion on cheaters and I made the comment that in APB you are not allowed to point out cheaters as it is against the COC. The DM stated that, that was the stupidest thing he had ever heard and that I was making it up, then he bet me a +3 shield. I have looked at the eula and the COC and can not find where name/cheater shaming is listed. So if some one can point out or give me link please do so. Tks I know it is in the forum rules, I am looking for the in game rule.

First off, de-ranking(going from gold to silver) and de-threating (loosing stars 5 to 0) is not the same or handled the same way, and has nothing to do with your R# rating. The statement that not playing will reduce your rank is false. I have several max accounts built back in 2010 ( Rolled character that were played only with specific friends/clan) that are still gold although they have not been played in 19 years. Also keep in mind that Ranking is based off of the W/L rank averaged between all the characters on your account. The only legal way to de-rank is to make a new character on your account and just play. Because it is based of the W/L of the character you will drop from a gold to a silver in as few as 5 matches, unless you win all 5 which if you have the starter load out you shouldn't be able to win more than 3. De-threating happens over time. It is affected by how much you team play, do obj, and assist and kill higher level enemy. (this is why you loose or gain rank and threat, and why you can go gold and max threat by loosing a mission) If you sit in game and do nothing else you will see your threat start to drop. So not playing does affect threat which is why if you have taken time off your threat is at 0. This is why most vets will say, gold, silver and bronze rank mean nothing. Because the rank is spread among all of the accounts avatars.