N66 101 Posted January 9 35m range sniper, 39m max distance for 2 shot with no overkill, Assault Rifles and even some SMGs have more range, I think it needs a generous range buff. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talla 87 Posted January 10 I think the weapon is very fun to play with, but its range feels lackluster in most scenarios. A Colby RSA secondary is often a better choice, considering the range. The short range and high TTK forces you to use the Enchantress defensively using cover, with a CQC secondary to defend against opponents closing in to rush you. You can use a player-owned car with high HP as portable cover to jump-shoot over it with little risk. That's one of it's few advantages. Recommendations : - Change the minimum damage of the gun to 200 to be a 5 Shots to kill (STK) at worst - Raise the range dropoff & min damage range by 5-10m each - Make accuracy acquisition faster while jumping. Consider nerfing the jump modifier to allow accurate jump-shooting without HS3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapopal 181 Posted January 10 The sound of the gunshot is confusing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellix 417 Posted Thursday at 05:24 AM On 1/10/2025 at 3:21 PM, Talla said: I think the weapon is very fun to play with, but its range feels lackluster in most scenarios. A Colby RSA secondary is often a better choice, considering the range. The short range and high TTK forces you to use the Enchantress defensively using cover, with a CQC secondary to defend against opponents closing in to rush you. You can use a player-owned car with high HP as portable cover to jump-shoot over it with little risk. That's one of it's few advantages. Recommendations : - Change the minimum damage of the gun to 200 to be a 5 Shots to kill (STK) at worst - Raise the range dropoff & min damage range by 5-10m each - Make accuracy acquisition faster while jumping. Consider nerfing the jump modifier to allow accurate jump-shooting without HS3 Trust me - you do not want this. This gun will be too powerful for it's speed and with the jump shooting benefit it will be just too much power in the hands of someone who will master it. Sure it will be fun for the user - but for sure not for the one getting shot. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6177 Posted Thursday at 05:59 AM 17 minutes ago, Ellix said: Trust me - you do not want this. This gun will be too powerful for it's speed and with the jump shooting benefit it will be just too much power in the hands of someone who will master it. Sure it will be fun for the user - but for sure not for the one getting shot. something has to be done, the gun is inferior to the scout in all actual gameplay scenarios a 4stk gun with a passable jumpshooting ability already exists, increasing the enchantress's stk (and lowering ttk) isnt going to suddenly break the game Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talla 87 Posted Thursday at 09:38 AM (edited) 4 hours ago, Ellix said: Trust me - you do not want this. This gun will be too powerful for it's speed and with the jump shooting benefit it will be just too much power in the hands of someone who will master it. Sure it will be fun for the user - but for sure not for the one getting shot. Hypothetically, if we increase the dropoff range from 35m to 40m & set the minimum damage is set to 200...https://i.imgur.com/95pTRph.png The 'Enchantress' is meant for a defensive playstyle, minimizing exposure to win fights, rather than charging directly at enemies. Defensive means designed for high instant DPS, but also a high TTK. You pop in-and-out of cover in-between shots to maximize the damage you deal vs. the damage you receive. Examples of this playstyle are the Scout and CSG-20. What’s interesting about this new weapon is its versatility. It can be used in both close-quarter combat (CQC) and ranged combat, but it doesn’t excel in either. Its mobility and long-range accuracy allow you to tactically adjust the distance based on your opponent’s weapon. However, without proper cover to navigate, your strategy is unlikely to succeed. In essence, this weapon is a "jack-of-all-trades, master of none". The slow refire rate and TTK lower your chances of securing a kill in anything other than a 1v1. Most of your opponents will be running Clotting Agent III, reducing your chances of getting a kill within 2 shots. Finally, against good players using "meta" weapons, you'll often fight an uphill battle since your opponents have an easier time forcing the fight within their ideal range. The 'Enchantress' niche areas are low walls and player-owned cars with high burn fuel, which are harder to find. Edited Thursday at 09:42 AM by Talla 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ellix 417 Posted Thursday at 03:50 PM 5 hours ago, Talla said: Hypothetically, if we increase the dropoff range from 35m to 40m & set the minimum damage is set to 200...https://i.imgur.com/95pTRph.png The 'Enchantress' is meant for a defensive playstyle, minimizing exposure to win fights, rather than charging directly at enemies. Defensive means designed for high instant DPS, but also a high TTK. You pop in-and-out of cover in-between shots to maximize the damage you deal vs. the damage you receive. Examples of this playstyle are the Scout and CSG-20. What’s interesting about this new weapon is its versatility. It can be used in both close-quarter combat (CQC) and ranged combat, but it doesn’t excel in either. Its mobility and long-range accuracy allow you to tactically adjust the distance based on your opponent’s weapon. However, without proper cover to navigate, your strategy is unlikely to succeed. In essence, this weapon is a "jack-of-all-trades, master of none". The slow refire rate and TTK lower your chances of securing a kill in anything other than a 1v1. Most of your opponents will be running Clotting Agent III, reducing your chances of getting a kill within 2 shots. Finally, against good players using "meta" weapons, you'll often fight an uphill battle since your opponents have an easier time forcing the fight within their ideal range. The 'Enchantress' niche areas are low walls and player-owned cars with high burn fuel, which are harder to find. I was actually referring mostly to the last point: -Make accuracy acquisition faster while jumping. Consider nerfing the jump modifier to allow accurate jump-shooting without HS3 Sorry for the confusion The only reason that it is only jumpshot usable with HS3 is to give you a choice to use this ability WITHOUT the ability to fire the gun faster (CJ3) or for further ranges (IR3 and LLR) The disadvantage or rather a choice of what you want the gun to do considering the ability to jumpshoot (faster or more effective then you can do it with a scout might I add) just doesn't feel good at all for the receiving end when you have a fast jumpshooter or a long range jumpshooting gun. If you would have the advantage to jump shoot accurately and faster - the gun would be broken and peak the people who hide behind cover in something close to 1 second in spaces where cover supposed to give you advantage if you use it.. Having the gun fire so fast that you wouldn't be able to react is spaces where you have somewhat short walls or a border which is about 1m tall (One you can hide in crouch behind) If you add the extra range to the gun but also the advantage of having the same accuracy as right now with HS3 but with 7m extra range (Bloom wouldn't do much here trust me) you poke at 45m 2 shots while jumpshooting almost and that's bad for spots like the parking lot in financial and the highway next to it. You will be able to accurately snipe people from like the 2nd or 3rd floor of the parking lot within 1.2 seconds while jumpshooting around. Basically means you jump from behind the pillar there and snipe the gun on the highway. It will happen so fast that if you don't have a car up there to hide behind - you will be a sitting duck with no ability to react And don't forget the EXTRA benefit of the gun if you put HS3 on it in addition -> That's just a point click adventure then and the jumpshooting will happen with no delay almost. I do agree the gun needs some love - But over buffing it will mean a very annoying weapon to deal with. Take it from someone who's been using it long time.. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites