BlatMan 711 Posted October 22 On 10/18/2024 at 3:56 PM, Nanichi said: Still here handling things where possible. When possible. We GM's are not allowed to act on things out of personal dislike. Your friend sadly is not giving you the full story and unfortunately due to Non Disclosure Agreement we are not allowed to release the reasons why to anyone else other than the effected player which is always via a in-game mail or whisper. GM's cannot ban we are not apart of C.S. who are the one's who investigate both player and GM reports eventually deciding on an action. I cannot argue the former G1 GM's might have done some of these things, however LO's team of GM's are strictly monitored to ensure we are not breaking our own rules of ethics and guidelines sorry to burst the preverbial bubble to my knowledge noone has been abused since for any GM to do so would get them terminated not long after. -Nanichi My friend's ban was back when Tiggs was still the community manager. My friend shared the messages. I didn't talk to support. I don't remember any manual bans that seemed unfair under Little Orbit after some context. There was one where the person claimed it was due to a symbol, but that person was extremely toxic in district chat after they were unbanned. I think the symbol was the lesser but easy to show violation. The EAC bans don't count since that's EAC, not LO. I've heard a few people claim they were forced to have a name change, but they also just happened to have drastically different looking characters afterwards, so I think they got banned and didn't want anyone to know. I also saw one of them on with the same name that they supposedly weren't allowed to have. It is a problem that GMs are not associated with LO. At the very least, it gives other players the false sense that the GM's personal beliefs are LO's rules. At worst, the GM will show favoritism towards some players since they know them, and choose to report or not report the player when they see ToS violations. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MACKxBOLAN 431 Posted October 22 13 hours ago, BlatMan said: The EAC bans don't count since that's EAC, not LO. This is a big part of the mistrust of LO or Matt. Prior to the unbanning and matts pod cast about eac false banning. We had hackers n trolls everywhere, we had zero faith in eac doing any bans, let alone false bans. Everyone knows that eac was bypassed within 12 hrs of it's install. Then Matt tells us the bans are 30% false in a monitored closed district. So this test didn't happen in a main live district. So this wasn't 30% of our people in a full district where the ac has to monitor the entire pool of the district. So to me it's kinda a lop sided fib. Because we saw no banns except 2-3 we know of. And I don't believe eac could have banned that many or hardly anyone to start with. So then to have the depths of Hell unleashed on us by matt unbanning people from Years back, long before eac. Then we gonna add in that after unbanning he puts in a new contact. So we had to fight hard core hackers and trolls to get the contact done. This with known gangs working to stop non hackers from scoring an xp. So mission after mission of zero xp. I know it sounds like a rant, but hear me. Then either due to MM fixes or pop increase the max pop was lowered from 50 to 40/40. Now in my mind this was a little white lie to make room for GM's in district. So I figured that they were in district, invisible or out of site, Watching these trolls. Had full view of the chat box and the toxics. So this leads to great mistrust, thinking that they are watching it all happen. But the Trollacks made a mistake. one mistake that vindicated the gm's. Not the gm's fault, it's Matt's. I believe the whole eac thing was hogwash, and that the unbanning was done simply to bring up the numbers. Which I can understand from a business stand point. But then he went into how he doesn't believe in perm bans. Well then you need to lay out and describe what the penalty range will be. Not to threaten the hackers but to reassure the legit community. So all of that is still up in the air, If we do report or catch a hacker by sard, what's he gonna do. is he gonna send their mom a letter the first time. Is he gonna ban em for 3 days or what? What would the max penalty be, basically how long can community rest and be assured this person will not be loose on the streets of the City. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSxW 47 Posted October 22 i could say this... Alot of situations is just crap servers that cant handle 20v20 players properly or server is chooking on more then 40 players in 1 district... i saw literally my friend teleporting on my screen while on his stream he was walking smoothly and had 23-27ms ping... and 33ms to the server... ON THE OTHER HAND: i started to look into this for some time now and i could easly say that some of those "cases" are literally cheaters that never miss whatever you do you ned to gang on them 3v1 or 2v1 if you are lucky... they prepare in advance seeing you from behind a building (im not talking about corner peaking... im talking literally through a building...) so yea... more about the cheats if you want a proof go to youtube type "apb cheats" and go to filters on the right side then select "this week" you will see at last 4 videos there its most likely more then ppl make about game itself... i will see how the halloween goes (i still can get around some of the cheaters but not multihackers all seeing mlg godlike creatures) but if it will keep happening i wont buy anything from the store anymore... (and i spent alot of $ on the store on this one account...) i saw that LO and SARD is doing manual labor now with the bans so i would kindly recomend to enable it fully annd start with 24h banning if someone is suspicious just kick him out for a day that will ease ppl more then what is happening now... (this last lines are an idea for you to consider @MattScott thanks...) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TheSxW 47 Posted October 22 20 hours ago, BlatMan said: My friend's ban was back when Tiggs was still the community manager. My friend shared the messages. I didn't talk to support. I don't remember any manual bans that seemed unfair under Little Orbit after some context. There was one where the person claimed it was due to a symbol, but that person was extremely toxic in district chat after they were unbanned. I think the symbol was the lesser but easy to show violation. The EAC bans don't count since that's EAC, not LO. I've heard a few people claim they were forced to have a name change, but they also just happened to have drastically different looking characters afterwards, so I think they got banned and didn't want anyone to know. I also saw one of them on with the same name that they supposedly weren't allowed to have. It is a problem that GMs are not associated with LO. At the very least, it gives other players the false sense that the GM's personal beliefs are LO's rules. At worst, the GM will show favoritism towards some players since they know them, and choose to report or not report the player when they see ToS violations. i almost recorded a proof of geting fairfight banned for phasing through the wall (character stayed at the same location) video was rerecorded just before a ban from fair fight (you can see there more "outrageous" glitches in the map that well. to tell you shortly are not funny to play against and are possible to be pulled off on every 4-5th mission After repeating what happend on the video 2 more times i was fairfaighted (all of this was done out of the mission ofc.) Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tuktukdriver 15 Posted October 24 I wish APB could be free of cheaters one day, new players won't stay if the game is full of cheaters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anella 69 Posted October 25 8 hours ago, tuktukdriver said: I wish APB could be free of cheaters one day, new players won't stay if the game is full of cheaters. It's alright to dream big, but this might be too much ^_^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hunt 18 Posted October 27 I'm all for cheaters; they're just speeding up the death of this game. At no point will SARD even turn on or do anything. If it's 'learning', I wouldn't be surprised if all legit players get banned because of how many blatant cheaters there are skewing data. Look at the other games using SARD... on what fucking planet is SARD going to be of any use? People are streaming themselves cheating or playing against cheaters and nothing is done about it. The moderators can't even do anything about it - what the fuck is the point of having them? The hype, if you can even call it that, of the latest content update has worn off and player count is dwindling once again. Keep it up LO, you're doing a fantastic job. 3 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yapopal 168 Posted October 28 Most of the "cheaters" are players from the gray zone. Anti-cheat will not affect the number of "cheaters" Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites