Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 5 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: because it’s outperformed by guns within their dedicated range 54 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: we can create hypothetical scenarios all day where the carbine beats the oca or vice versa Are you forgeting your own words? stats=/= performance Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6191 Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Excalibur! said: Are you forgeting your own words? stats=/= performance i’m basing this off stats? the carbine excels at nothing, except perhaps mobility Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: i’m basing this off stats? the carbine excels at nothing, except perhaps mobility "Excel at nothing"... ask "indi" about it or other carabine heros. And mobility is not a the most important thing in this game... like if you dont move you get rekt by perfect ttk. Thats why pointman guns EXCEL at cqc over the others, but carabine has it at 50m... so? Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Thial 176 Posted June 19, 2018 Carbine OP ? What ? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6191 Posted June 19, 2018 5 minutes ago, Excalibur! said: "Excel at nothing"... ask "indi" about it or other carabine heros. And mobility is not a the most important thing in this game... like if you dont move you get rekt by perfect ttk. Thats why pointman guns EXCEL at cqc over the others, but carabine has it at 50m... so? idk what to tell you man, we clearly disagree on this Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 6 minutes ago, Excalibur! said: "Excel at nothing"... ask "indi" about it or other carabine heros. No one is really a carbine hero anymore. That was really only a thing from like 2011-2013. It isn't a thing anymore. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6191 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) oscar heroes are the new carbine heroes Edited June 19, 2018 by BXNNXD Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, BXNNXD said: idk what to tell you man, we clearly disagree on this Weaker excuses every time... you must love your carabine guys. Dont forget to macro your mwheel to make it work really good Just now, NotZombieBiscuit said: No one is really a carbine hero anymore. That was really only a thing from like 2011-2013. It isn't a thing anymore. It barely matters when you dont need marksman to kill at 50m while moving like a fucking monkey. Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Excalibur! said: It barely matters when you dont need marksman to kill at 50m while moving like a fucking monkey. How does that have anything to do with what I said. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6191 Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Excalibur! said: Weaker excuses every time... you must love your carabine guys. Dont forget to macro your mwheel to make it work really good It barely matters when you dont need marksman to kill at 50m while moving like a fucking monkey. i don’t actually like the carbine much, but whatever floats your boat my dude Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, NotZombieBiscuit said: How does that have anything to do with what I said. What has to do the past when we are talking about NOW. Just now, BXNNXD said: i don’t actually like the carbine much, but whatever floats your boat my dude That you dont like it doesnt make it balanced my fam. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Excalibur! said: What has to do the past when we are talking about NOW. But you were using an outdated term instead of talking about NOW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: But you were using an outdated term instead of talking about NOW. Still they are carabine heros, because they are using carabine. Just like in the past. Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vsb 6191 Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Excalibur! said: That you dont like it doesnt make it balanced my fam. when did i say that? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Excalibur! said: Still they are carabine heros, because they are using carabine. Just like in the past. Just using carbine doesn't make you a carbine hero. A carbine hero is someone that only plays/mains carbine. This is not a thing anymore due to the much more varied meta and carbine falling out of its almost mandatory spot after the nerfs years ago (It is still strong but not as stable as it was before). Therefore the term has lost its use and has died with time. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, BXNNXD said: when did i say that? When did i asked if you like carabine or not? 1 minute ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: Just using carbine doesn't make you a carbine hero. A carbine hero is someone that only plays/mains carbine. This is not a thing anymore due to the much more varied meta and carbine falling out of its almost mandatory spot after the nerfs years ago (It is still strong but not as stable as it was before). Therefore the term has lost its use and has died with time. Who said carabine is failing? I just used it and its ridiculous easy comparted to any zoom bonded gun? Are you even reading the thread or just jumping into protect your carabine? Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Excalibur! said: Who said carabine is failing? I just used it and its ridiculous easy comparted to any zoom bonded gun? No one said it was failing. Why do you keep assuming people are saying things that neither them nor you have said? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: No one said it was failing. Why do you keep assuming people are saying things that neither them nor you have said? Why do you keep making it sound like it? Carabine is not failing any way and keeps being a non marksman fire it at 50m without effort with a lot of mobility more than all the other weapons of its same category. Give me an excuse at least, you are bringing the past i dont care about the past. Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Excalibur! said: Why do you keep making it sound like it? Carabine is not failing any way and keeps being a non marksman fire it at 50m without effort with a lot of mobility more than all the other weapons of its same category. I'm going to assume you didn't even read my previous reply where I said it was still a strong weapon, just not as crazy as it used to be. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: I'm going to assume you didn't even read my previous reply where I said it was still a strong weapon, just not as crazy as it used to be. 50m, non marksman needed, huge mobility... not op? Really? You really dont see any problem in it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 2 minutes ago, Excalibur! said: 50m, non marksman needed, huge mobility... not op? Really? You really dont see any problem in it? I'm not having that particular discussion with you. Go have it with @BXNNXD like you already are. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: I'm not having that particular discussion with you. Go have it with @BXNNXD like you already are. More evasive answers, good job. Then if no one sees problem in this, i will make a new thread proposing improve ALL marksman weapon (i mean the ones that require marksman -zoom- to be fired) hip fire to bring balance upon this game. Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 Just now, Excalibur! said: More evasive answers, good job. I never started the discussion of whether to nerf the carbine with you. I never carried it on when you started it with me. I never replied to it when you shoehorned it in to responses that had nothing to do with it. I was having a conversation about the term 'Carbine Hero' and the gun's use regardless of whether it is OP, decent, or complete trash. You're the one who imparted what you are now trying to assume I am evading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Excalibur! 207 Posted June 19, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, NotZombieBiscuit said: I never started the discussion of whether to nerf the carbine with you. I never carried it on when you started it with me. I never replied to it when you shoehorned it in to responses that had nothing to do with it. I was having a conversation about the term 'Carbine Hero' and the gun's use regardless of whether it is OP, decent, or complete trash. You're the one who imparted what you are now trying to assume I am evading. Because there is no excuse for it and you and the rest know it... there is no need to talk about the past or terms when the main discussion is about those features that make the carabine op. Have a nice day. Edited June 19, 2018 by Excalibur! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3146 Posted June 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Excalibur! said: Because there is no excuse for it and you and the rest know it... there is no need to talk about the past or terms when the main discussion is those features that make the carabine op. Have a nice day. Changing your name does not change the way you type by the way. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
