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NEW OPENING OF SCRIMS: WILL BE HAPPENING AFTER THE 1.30 UPDATE MAINTENCE

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Hi everyone.

 

It's been a while since I talked about a tournament I wanted to do. Right now I feel like It's now or never to create scrims for APB. Seeing that APB is losing players left and right and people are getting bored playing against eachother, I feel like Scrims can maybe be partly a solution for APB's population decrease.

 

What are Scrims?

 

Basicly Scrims are Witnessing games where people will face eachother from Criminal side and Enforcer side.

 

In April 2020 I started this topic There I tried to create a tournament where people would think of different ways to how tournaments could work. One of the ideas I had was making a tournament based on Witnessing. Witnessing is a different way to play the game. This is a capture the flag gamemode in apb.

 

The locations for these games have been decided for Waterfront and Financial. Due to rule complications and different views on what rules should be for competitive gameplay, I have been talking to several people about finding the best rules for the Scrims. Therefore the rules for Scrims are a bit less than other Competitive tournaments that have been hold in the past.

 

Rules:

 

  1. - No Less than Lethal: This would give a big advantage to Enforcers as they give the criminal a double setback where people can't respawn in time to get to a certain point.
  2. - No O-PGL: Due to Nadespamming i feel like the O-PGL wil make this game never end. therefore al O-PGL kind of weapons are not allowed to be used. (legendary guns Hammer, Impact, etc but also Stun O-PGL
  3. - No car surfer mod: due to being able to sit on cars with certain guns. and allowing an osmaw. i have decided to not accept any car surfer mod at this moment.
  4. - Maximum of 1 longrange (sniper / osmaw): This is a rule i needed to add becous of to much Obeya usage and other stuff. 1 sniper a team limits the team to a ceretain point. also we are allowing Osmaw and Vulcano as the only 2 High explosive guns and wil be also considered Long range weapons.
  5. - No Player car within 50 meter of startingpoint.
  6. - Teammates arent allowed whitin 25 meters of starting point.

 

Gameplay:

 

  1. - 3 player games: Due to the time laps of only 5 minuts the game wil be played with a party of only 3 people.
  2. - Casuals wil play best out of 3
  3. - Competitive wil play best out of 5
  4. - 1 Criminal wil go to a certain street to make him witnessable. 1 enforcer wil be acompanying him to be next to the criminal. 
  5. - First person who gets the item to there base wins the game.

 

Point system

 

The point system that we are going to use for APB scrims is called Swiss-System Tournament.

 

What is a Swiss-System Tournament point system?

 

A Swiss-system tournament is a non-eliminating tournament format that features a fixed number of rounds of competition, but considerably fewer than for a round-robin tournament; thus each competitor (team or individual) does not play all the other competitors. Competitors meet one-on-one in each round and are paired using a set of rules designed to ensure that each competitor plays opponents with a similar running score, but does not play the same opponent more than once. The winner is the competitor with the highest aggregate points earned in all rounds. All competitors play in each round unless there is an odd number of them.

due to having 2 teams we wil have to change and bend this system a bit to be able to work.

 

APB has 2 factions. those 2 factions wil have there own Tournament going on but they wil be playing against the opposit faction.

 

if the crim faction team wins they wil get 2 points.
if the crim faction team loses they wil get 1 point
if the crim faction team draw they wil get 0 point

 

at the end of they tournament if there is an execo. We wil check How much Turns each team needed to win.

 

Discord

 

If u are intrested in joining our discord click on the link here https://discord.gg/zQ4npWdNak

 

Locations wil be announced on a later date. some locations are stil being tested out.

 

This event will be measured in 2 groups (Casual/competitive) Points will not be counted in casual Scrims. Competitive gameplay will be with a points system.

 

If you guys are interested in competitive gameplay let me know through private message or ingame whispers.

 

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Всем привет.

 

Прошло много времени с тех пор, как я говорил о турнире, в котором я хотел бы создать. Прямо сейчас я чувствую, что пришло время или никогда не создавать сетку для APB. Видя, что APB теряет игроков направо и налево, и людям становится скучно играть друг против друга, я чувствую, что Scrims может быть отчасти решением проблемы сокращения населения APB.

 

Что такое сетка?

 

По сути, Scrims - это игры-свидетели, в которых люди будут сталкиваться друг с другом как со стороны преступников, так и со стороны Enforcer.

 

В апреле 2020 года я начал эту тему. Там я попытался создать турнир, где люди будут думать о различных способах проведения турниров. Одна из моих идей заключалась в том, чтобы сделать турнир на основе Свидетельства. Витрина отдельный способ начать играть Это режим захвата флага в apb.

 

Места для этих игр были выбраны для 'Waterfront(Портовый), Financial(Деловой). Из-за сложности правил и разных взглядов на то, какими должны быть правила для соревновательного игрового процесса, я разговаривал с несколькими людьми о поиске лучших правил для сеток. Поэтому правила для скримов немного меньше, чем для других соревновательных турниров, которые проводились в прошлом.

 

Правила:

 

  1. - Не менее чем смертельный: это даст большое преимущество силовикам, поскольку они дают преступнику двойную неудачу, когда люди не могут возродиться вовремя, чтобы добраться до определенной точки.
  2. - Нет O-PGL: из-за недобросовестного спама я чувствую, что O-PGL сделает эту игру бесконечной. поэтому использование оружия типа al O-PGL запрещено. (легендарные пистолеты Hammer, Impact и т. д., но также Запрещен O-PGL
  3. - Мод без автомобильного серфера: из-за возможности сидеть на машинах с определенным оружием. и допуская осма. В данный момент я решил не принимать никаких модов для автомобильного серфера.
  4. - Максимум 1 дальний бой (снайпер / осмав): это правило, которое мне нужно было добавить из-за частого использования Obeya и других вещей. 1 снайпер на команду ограничивает команду до определенной точки. также мы разрешаем Osmaw и Vulcano в качестве единственных двух орудий с высокой взрывоопасностью, которые также будут считаться оружием дальнего действия.
  5. - Нет машины игрока в пределах 50 метров от точки старта.
  6. - Товарищам по команде не разрешается находиться на расстоянии 25 метров от стартовой точки.

 

Геймплей:

 

  1. - Игры для 3 игроков: из-за того, что интервал времени составляет всего 5 минут, в игру будет играть группа из 3 человек.
  2. - Казуальные игры будут играть лучше всего из 3
  3. - Соревновательный будет играть лучше всего из 5
  4. - 1 Преступник пойдет на определенную улицу, чтобы сделать его свидетелем. Его будет сопровождать 1 силовик, чтобы он был рядом с преступником.
  5. - Первый человек, который доставит предмет на базу, побеждает в игре.

 

Система баллов

 

Система очков, которую мы собираемся использовать для розыгрыша APB, называется турниром по швейцарской системе.

 

Что такое турнирная система по швейцарской системе?

 

Швейцарская система —

Традиционно для получения наиболее объективного результата турниры проводились по круговой системе, в которой каждый участник играет не менее одной игры с каждым и победитель определяется по сумме набранных очков. Но в круговой системе с увеличением числа участников требуемое число встреч быстро возрастает, поэтому её применение при количестве участников более двух-трёх десятков становится нереальным. В турнирах, проводимых по швейцарской системе, иногда принимают участие более ста игроков — если в круговой системе 100 игрокам потребовалось бы 4950 встреч в 99 турах, то в швейцарской достаточно 450 партий в 9 турах (выигрыш в одиннадцать раз).

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Швейцарская_система

 

APB имеет 2 фракции. У этих двух фракций будет свой турнир, но они будут играть против противоположной фракции.

 

если команда криминальной фракции победит, они получат 2 очка.

если команда криминальной фракции проиграет, они получат 1 очко

если команда криминальной фракции рисует, они получат 0 очков

 

в конце турнира, если есть исполнительный директор. Мы проверим, сколько ходов нужно каждой команде для победы.

 

Раздор

 

Если вы хотите присоединиться к нашему разногласию, нажмите здесь https://discord.gg/zQ4npWdNak

 

Местоположение будет объявлено позже. некоторые места все еще проходят испытания.

 

Это событие будет оцениваться в 2 группах (случайные / соревновательные). Очки не будут засчитываться в случайных схватках. Соревновательный игровой процесс будет с системой очков.

 

Если вы, ребята, заинтересованы в соревновательном игровом процессе, дайте мне знать в личном сообщении или в личке в игре.

 

 

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1 minute ago, largeAPBgamer said:

You should disqualify anybody who has a history of cheating

we wil look into that when the competitions starts. atm i stil have no ways to check if a certain person has cheated already 100 of times.

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4 minutes ago, TzickyT said:

we wil look into that when the competitions starts. atm i stil have no ways to check if a certain person has cheated already 100 of times.

most people who cheat have girly characters, so watch for that

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3 hours ago, largeAPBgamer said:

most people who cheat have girly characters, so watch for that

I can confirm, please only allow male characters.

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9 minutes ago, KwangoWarlord said:

I want join but i dont have team

maybe u wil find someone who has only a team of 2

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The idea is okay, however I don't see how it would be balanced and fun for both parties.

Witness missions are very short, and even with a bo3/bo5. You're only really looking at 15-30 minutes of gameplay.

It also sounds like the criminals have the advantage at the start of every "witness mission" considering they start with the cash in hand or item rather.

 

Most witness missions comes down to just one fight and once that is over, the team with the cash/item usually just wins of that one fight.

 

I personally think just going along with the normal missions in action districts is the better option for scrims as it requires a lot more teamwork and precision from a team. Obviously, you would ban certain missions that may be unbalanced or not as enjoyable as other missions.

 

Just a tip, you could setup a discord with different kind of roles and voice channels for teams to use. This makes it easier for people to find others to team up with too.

Good luck with the project.

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55 minutes ago, ExoticZ said:

The idea is okay, however I don't see how it would be balanced and fun for both parties.

Witness missions are very short, and even with a bo3/bo5. You're only really looking at 15-30 minutes of gameplay.

It also sounds like the criminals have the advantage at the start of every "witness mission" considering they start with the cash in hand or item rather.

 

Most witness missions comes down to just one fight and once that is over, the team with the cash/item usually just wins of that one fight.

 

I personally think just going along with the normal missions in action districts is the better option for scrims as it requires a lot more teamwork and precision from a team. Obviously, you would ban certain missions that may be unbalanced or not as enjoyable as other missions.

 

Just a tip, you could setup a discord with different kind of roles and voice channels for teams to use. This makes it easier for people to find others to team up with too.

Good luck with the project.

Balancing

 

Due to ballancing in a PVP game is hard and definitly if a lot of the population is kinda gone. Veterans wil have an advantage over every stage when they are compared to a new player. and thats something that can't be helped in every PVP rotated Game. due to the focus of Small missions and witnessing the time spam where a person can stay alert. i chose for the Witnessing Games as a focus. i don't feel like 1 game needs to take 4 hours to complete. deffinitly not what im looking for. balancing them with rules can only be a hassle but with the test that i focused on i feel what i written down as rules is enough due to watching how long a game can only take. a crim starts with a package but a cop chooses when they start - so the reflex of a cop can be faster. its something that i can't change but maybe if LO sees this as a possibility to create somethign out of this. they can maybe make an intresting gamemechanic out of this event in the future. if that ever would happen.

 

Mission Focus

 

due to choosing for this style of gameplay is that teammates can group up and find a strategy for protecting there spot or the opposition spot. i made that every spot in the game triggers to the same spot to deliver so its possible for people to learn there steps. ( sadly enough i couldn't test this enough but i seen some games ending up in a draw.) so i think its stil possible to make intresting matchups.

 

Discord

 

is being worked on. we wil contact all those who are intrested in the event and message them at the right time the discord.

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witnessing is kinda interesting thing, but what you gonna do with it if thats actually like 4 min mission. could be longer if u would make like regular missions i guess

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On 9/1/2021 at 10:41 PM, bgpentq said:

witnessing is kinda interesting thing, but what you gonna do with it if thats actually like 4 min mission. could be longer if u would make like regular missions i guess

thats all on debate what wil happen in the near future ... like i already told exoticz. i personaly don't think i can manage Regular Missions as contestable event.

 

Merged.

 

an update has occured - Point system has been added to the topic.

 

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with sad sounds i have to say that this event has been canceled - we don't have enough players to start this event off. wil be posponed if the game gets new blood. or has engine update.

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Scrims are again open - Looking for hosts / Creators and players

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