WEISSDEATH

Give the ATAC a tweak not a nerf or as I said, buff other weapons so they may compete. Take the OCA for example, it got nerfed and everyone mostly just switched to PMG and now people are calling for the PMG to get nerfed, and if that gets nerfed? What would be next? What would be the brand new SMG everyone uses? The Maniac(tho it is locked behind a $40 pack so maybe not?) If the ATAC gets nerfed a bit too much, everyone will just flock to another weapon and then the same process will repeat. Let’s tweak the rabid and frenzy’s bloom and recoil, let’s give the norsemen some love, the SBSRs, The Shredder, ISSR-a, Anubis, and EOLs. We can’t just keep nerfing everything, unless they’re truly and utterly broken(like the Pre-nerf Yukon) or they’re just small tweaks to bring the weapon inline(HVR QS and NTEC jumpshotting.) The ATAC is definitely an strong and easy to use weapon, but it’s certainly not that OP. I do think it probably needs something looked at but nothing that big. Besides, if it did get nerfed? What would people use next? The Raptors? FAR? Would those weapons be labeled op and ez to use if the ATAC got a nerf?

Nerf one thing then players will just point to the next thing and call it OP. Nerf the PMG, players will go look at the maniac, nerf the ATAC, then people will probably look at the Raptor the same way. That's the cycle, so instead of just nerfing everything, how about we buff or tweak some other weapons so that they can perform and compete against the stronger and better weapons?

Whoa there pal, Raptor’s already taken that niche at 40m.

Its definitely strong and easy to use but not broken or OP; it takes 8 shots to kill and doesn't out range any other AR, it also lacks the accuracy one can achieve with a NTEC even if you tapfire the weapon and i'd even argue the STAR is more accurate at range then it. As for Golds going 20-5, chances are, they would of likely went 20-5 with a NTEC as well. Even if the ATAC is easy to use, Player skill still greatly affects how well it will ultimately do.

Its well suited for range and is rather accurate, it has a 5 stk. Though, there's better ARs if you're looking for range outside of the NTEC. I'd even recommend the Frenzy over the Misery.

The Shredder.

I can remember all the poor low rank golds and silvers that sometimes get N5 somehow, probably dont even know what it is half of the time and getting blasted out of the blue by someone out of the mission. Id prefer it if it still showed on the minimap, but, without the ability for some random to come out of mission and kill you. That's not fun.

Ookay, but this doesn't have anything to do with the topic at hand. This is about removing personal explosives not about the new players. Personally, im all for this but as stated above: What about them respawning? How will we know their around? Where will they be? Will they be close enough too the objectives(like vehicle missions) so the opp can grab them in time(plus equip them and then wind up a shot)? How would the OPGL fall into this? It has no real use when it comes to AV unless the car is stationary? Would the missions effect which explosives would spawn? If so, would it be restricted too certain stages of the missions or would they be available through all stages? One of my major concerns regards the EOLs, the unwanted disappointments of the explosives. For the few and small base of players such as myself that use them, what would occur too them? Would they be safe from this simply due to how bad they are and lack of usage protect them or would they fall under it? Personally, i wouldn't want them to be caught up in this IF this would to ever occur, imagine getting the hammer on something like creme da crime or that armored truck mission, that wouldn't be fun. As annoying, frustrating and bad explosives are and can be, they are still one of the best ways to deal with vehicles and in the case of OPGL, especially for players that know what their doing(which is rare but still), remove/dislodge players from rooftops and other hard to reach and advantageous positions even with the availability of grenades.

HB2 is a upgrade on the NSSW, You can fully auto with it at 65m as mentioned above and CJ is great for tap-firing. Im starting to doubt that you’ve actually touched the NSSW and are trying to brush it too the side cuz it’s a LMG.

NSSW can counter the NTEC easily but is worst at killing vehicles then ALIG. Don’t know what you’re going on about there. You must be very drunk as the CASE are ALIG reskins. So you’re still calling the ALIG bad while also calling it good.