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  1. 3 minutes ago, ɱɑƫƫʂϗᎧɨɨ™ said:

    Not everything is done overnight maybe you should know this, And in despite of G1's lack of communication i would say LO is doing a better job at it and believe me i read what you said quite clearly but you're just being another player that can't grasp how things are first tested before being rolled out on the live servers so maybe cut them some slack and actually be patient for once.

    Not everything is, but most things can be if the effort was applied. Communication can be one thing, but their actions are showing that they aren't meeting their goals. Which is disappointing to the player base.

     

    There's no testing needing for active in-game GMs to look over and pluck out the bad seeds that are abusing legitimate players for their own twisted kicks. If they did this, perhaps they wouldn't only have under 100 players on Jericho currently.

     

    I am not talking about the engine upgrade that is set to launch in 2150 Q4. Also, I am forced into a position of being patient, but as I said, I refuse to put any money towards a game that is in a current state of attention until the engine upgrade comes.


  2. 5 minutes ago, ɱɑƫƫʂϗᎧɨɨ™ said:

    I only think of myself? Bold statement considering you're complaining on a subject that's been known for quite some time so again read the fine print before posting, Oh also I'm not even enforcing that LO should turn a blind eye to what's going on but until you actually open yours first and read thoroughly on the forums then perhaps you'll find the answer you seek.

    Obviously you didn't read that properly. You must have heightened emotions, considering the subject at hand. I simply said the I like to take in first hand the status of the game before nodding my head in agreement to anything spat on these forums.

     

    If they claim they are concerned for the game, it would be in a completely different state of being. And they wouldn't be doing the same things that Gamersfirst had. Which is, take slow resolutions to a problem that needs quickened results.

     

    5 minutes ago, AsgerLund said:

    Ah, it's the "accept my subjective opinions about cheaters and solutions to cheating as the absolute objective truth, or you are yourself a cheater or associate yourself with cheaters intentionally" argument. This is the typical attempt to smear persons not agreeing with you. A low-key adhominem. See my previous point about self-importance and ability to handle criticism.

    I did no such thing and neither did anyone else in this thread. I argued that your specific points added nothing new to the table, and was not put forward in a constructive way. And I also argued against your skewed and highly subjective perception of the roles and responsibilities of the SPCT.

    I specifically said I am not part of the "add it to the pile" crowd. I know exactly what my part is, and I read your post and I reply specifically to the points you make  Unfortunately, you do not want to reply specifically to the points I make, and instead want to move the goalposts for the argument you're trying to make. At the same time, you're desperately trying to take a faux intellectual high-road, which is even more ironic than me ironically taking a faux intellectual high-road to point it out to you. Again, see my previous point about self-importance and ability to handle criticism.

     

    And now:

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    Your adversity to anything I say, squarely places you in the opposition in one form or another. Thus lumping you into the "Add to the pile" crowd. Even if I wasn't making this post, the effect of your actions still stands.

     

    Also you're bringing up a dead subject as an attempt to regress the topic at hand. It's been posted by Moderators "That if VOLUNTEERS OR STAFF ARE BREAKING THE TOS, THEY SHOULD BE REPORTED TO STAFF." If that statement wasn't designed to be a warning to SPCT members, they wouldn't have worded it in such a way.

     

    There's no faux intellectual high road being played. Simply observation to the deceptions of your overall wording in your posts.


  3. 24 minutes ago, AsgerLund said:

     

    Considering that I have to keep things vague as per part of the terms to being present on these forums, you're going to have to deal with it. It's fact that when these topics are brought up, the half of the player base that are the problem do everything in their power to make the legitimate players on these forums seem like they're insane.

     

    If you agree that a customer takes importance you wouldn't attempt to diminish the concern of this game spiraling downward faster than when it was in the hands of its prior owners. You'd add something, and actually contribute, beyond trivial crap that most of the trolls do on these threads.

     

    If you don't know what your part in this is, then you're obviously just typing without thought or intention.


  4. 31 minutes ago, AsgerLund said:

    Ultimately, you're "enforcing the idea" that repeating the same points ad nauseam with nothing new to add to said points is necessary, to keep LO from passively sitting back and letting this game die. What I think the "add it to the pile" people are trying to tell you is:

    1. Add something new to the table, or it becomes ad nauseam. You did not do that
    2. If people want to contribute to a constructive discussion, they should do so in a constructive way. Your OP didn't really do that, referring to "vomit" and "fecal matter"
    3. LO knows what's wrong, because they have been told countless times. So your ad nauseum post will have no effect on them either sitting back passively or working actively to fix problems

    And from my personal point of view, the "open letter" format often comes across as the creator having an inflated sense of self-importance and lack the ability to handle criticism - both constructive and non-constructive.

     

    But ultimately, this is a forum for discussion related to APB/LO, which is what we're doing now. So if we could keep our precious egos in check, we are actually doing what we are supposed to do.

    As a customer to the company, I do have importance. just as much as you do.

     

    There difference is I'm applying it in a way that's actually meant for Little Orbit to take away certain things that could actually help. Even if they don't outright acknowledge my post.

     

    There's nothing constructive from saying "add it to the pile", that's just a dismissive gesture on your part. It lacks originality, steers the thread away from the topic, and is engineered to create discord. The "Add to the pile" people are the same people that could help make a difference, instead of being a loathsome presence in the forums.

     

    It only makes you look like you have an alternative agenda, that would be ruined if solutions were implemented.


  5. 20 minutes ago, ɱɑƫƫʂϗᎧɨɨ™ said:

    Add it to the pile of things that the community already know's clearly someone that doesn't pay enough attention on the forums about the game's initial state even without logging in read the fine print and perhaps you'll find the answer you seek, End if discussion.

     

    I actually do pay attention to the forums. But as someone who likes to think for himself, I prefer to get the firsthand experience. Because most perceptions on this forum seems to be jaded. Resulting in unoriginal, not really helpful, and lacking posts such as this.

     

    Constantly saying "add it to the pile" doesn't contribute anything towards Little Orbit actually making the effort needed to make the changes required for this game to actually be a success. So ultimately you're enforcing the idea that they can passively sit back and let this game die off, after making the investment to try and turn things around.


  6. Just now, UubeNubeh DaWog said:

    Hey you found the rules that apply to everyone, good job.

     

    Other people posting someone elses comment is not harassment by him.

     

    Says "Slander is bad mkay"

    Slanders someone.

     

    My goal is to not push obligations onto people who have no reason having said obligations.

    Volunteers don't represent a company.

    If you haven't noticed a large chunk of the forums have a custom title, should we be held to the same obligations that you're talking about?

     

    TBH this snowflake PC culture isn't interesting in the first place, it conflates every idea we currently have for the sake of one person. It needs to die off already.

    One insult is not harassment.

    I'm not here to interest you. I have no ambition to play monkey for someone who would rather stand up for a person who has harassed and slandered another person.

     

    Respectfully it has been more than one insult, and there is a difference between slandering someone without evidence, and saying something factual from the evidence displayed by another individuals actions. Volunteers do represent a company, which is why the services of a volunteer can be rendered obsolete if they no longer uphold themselves in a respectful fashion.

     

    Yes the rules are meant to apply to everyone, but if you're going to volunteer your time to a company, you're volunteering your identity to the company. That badge was issued by Little Orbit, which means he's representing them in a fashion.

     

    Standing up for this person who is already on ignore speaks volumes about your own personal character. Welcome to ignore.


  7. 1 minute ago, Glaciers said:

    yeah thats specifically not in the harassment category 

    Continuing to do so is, as apparently members of this forum have decided to quote him in their posts after I already have him on ignore.

     

    Regardless, it's highlighted as something not tolerated, and it is offensive. So it's become harassment, and you're enabling it.

     

    It's sad, and pathetic for someone to do so. If you don't like something, there's a dislike button for a reason. There isn't the need for someone to crusade at making slander over an opinion. It's rather immature, and shows a lack of intellectual development.

     

    Now i'd rather this thread stay on topic, instead of being about someone who I have already erased from my sight.  


  8. 6 hours ago, UubeNubeh DaWog said:

    That is the exact same standard as anyone else.

    Anyone breaking the terms of service should also be reported to staff so they can be dealt with accordingly.

     

    Harassment is a pretty serious claim. Cooky is a number of things but him harassing people is not one of them.

     

    Telling someone to take out their tampon is a lewd form of harassment. It's disgusting, and unwarranted. So... Not really interested in you much anymore.

     

    Your only goal seems to justify poor behavior.

    7 hours ago, WhiskeyTangoFoxX said:

     

    I'm going to have to stop you right there buddy. You seem to not understand what being a tester means. It is far from a privilege, it's not a fun thing, it's a duty at best and a chore at worst. Have you ever seen what testers/QA do? They run into every single wall they can find repeatedly to make sure you can't run through it. They jump at every conceivable object to see if they can get out of bounds. They hit every button combination on their keyboard to see if it makes the programme crash.

    When we test, we're not playing the latest and greatest APB content before anyone else. You can barely call any of it playing at all. Half the time we're trying to reproduce crashes and getting detailed steps written down on how to do it so the dev team can fix them.

    Your title, special forum badge, and bragging rights (If you chose to find satisfaction in what you do) are a privilege.

     

    But like I said, you're essentially an unpaid employee. It's not my fault that you volunteered for such frustrations, and I hope you eventually find satisfaction in what you do somehow. 

     

    Merged.

     

    3 hours ago, Glaciers said:

    a forum member not caring about your opinion is not harassment 

     

     

    But suggesting I am mentally ill, and then telling me to take out my tampon is. He doesn't need to take things to that level, and defending his disgusting actions really isn't the best thing. 

     

    I'd prefer to respect people I engage with.

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  9. 4 hours ago, Hexerin said:

    Completely pointless event that will inevitably end poorly as the overwhelming majority of participants get nothing for their time, resulting in regret and frustration for bothering.

    Not to mention a loss of premium time, if they bothered to purchase such.

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  10. 38 minutes ago, Fenton said:

    If you aren't having fun, why not try another server or try something else in game?

     

    Missions not your thing? We have Riot (much as I loathe it), Fight Club and the creative side of the game found in the social district.

     

    If that doesn't work, have a look at something away from APB for a while. You can always come back.

    I mostly prefer to finish one character at a time before starting another. I have already been gone for so many years, by choice. I don't want to lose the rest of my premium.


  11. 1 hour ago, UubeNubeh DaWog said:

     

    Privilege based on their merits.

    They dont need to play nice, and as far as im aware they're held to the same standards as everyone else and that is ok.

     

    A teacher earned their postion, they can still yell at you for getting things wrong.

    A person with a PHD can still call you stupid.

    A race car driver can still call you a bad driver or dangerous driver

    A pro gamer can still call you a bad gamer.

     

    Are any of these people under an obligation to "Be above" the average person? Nope. They earned their titles and are entitled to use them for their purpose.

    Outside of that they have the same obligations as anyone else, so as long as they dont break the rules as much as anyone else, they're fine.

    Actually harassment is against the teams of service, and a moderator in another thread already said that volunteers and staff violating the TOS should be reported to staff so they can be dealt with accordingly.

     

    Thus he is held to a higher standard in the eyes of Little Orbit. Sorry but you're simply just attempting to enable him in being despicable.

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  12. 9 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

    Yes I know.

    But most creators are outside the United States by what reports I have seen and that means they would be created still if their governments do not let them be punished for it like how Germany pulled that

    Oh yes, but it would deter the use of them in certain countries if the cheat consumer base of the programs is targeted directly. Throw a large fine and the potential for six months to a year jail time as punishment. It would make others think twice about taking advantage of it. It'd likely also make many parents extremely disappointed in their children for doing things like that. Especially if the financial information of the proven cheaters are tracked.

     

    I suppose I am too hopeful for that. Though it'd really make this game a better place. But like Jazeker said, I just need to enjoy the game till it dies.


  13. 1 minute ago, Fortune Runner said:

    That is why Little Orbit changed anti cheats.

    It's because they are doing their part.

     

    As for legal action ;  A thread that I believe willy wonka made suggested this in that thread. or maybe it side railed to it i don't know for sure.

    but in it i said that as long as Little Orbit could afford to , then I would be for legal action against those who make /use the cheats.

    It is not an easy task to prove in a court of law and not all countries would recognize it regardless

    That's a shame if the United States court system wouldn't recognize the financial detriment to a video game due to people running programs that are against its TOS.


  14. 1 minute ago, Jazeker said:

    To end my own little rant with a positive suggestion; I still believe matchmaking has a lot more power over the situation than what is used today. I believe that's also the reason why partly skill-based matchmaking gets hate from a certain part of any community. We'll see where this all goes I guess.

    Oh the matchmaking has never bothered me. Especially since the population is so low that it's difficult to keep players of differing skill levels at a reasonable distance.

     

    You win some, and you lose some. It's just frustrating when it becomes a real losing streak for many players, and not for the few who are obviously at an advantage in some way. Especially when it could be handled in certain ways.


  15. 13 minutes ago, Jazeker said:

    When the day comes this all ends with a 404 I'll be one of those who'll consider it a sad day. No matter how much I play APB or not at that point, no matter what happened.  Unfair people? From the very first token exploiters to the last silly closet streamers... it won't matter. From heroic and canned GM's to unfair condoning GM's. It won't matter. I'll still be sad. 

     

    You know why? I always liked APB. Not only that, when it was booming I met some great people, some of which I still don't know their IRL names and probably never will at this point, but my gosh, some people make a game you like simply awesome. And it had all the problems it has today back then as well. Nothing really changed.

    Now I don't want to lecture anyone but if you want to take something from me, try this on for size; with any multiplayer game out there, any online multiplayer game, the forums are about fair play versus unfair play, no exceptions. Anywhere you go out there, you'll find fair players versus unfair players arguing, trolling, beating their own drumsticks. At some point things end, and wherever you might go next, you'll find this battle again and again, and again. Gaming companies themselves are very clever with statements on unfair play, they have to be. Unfair play is just everywhere and it is only getting more obvious. It never became less. On forums the people who are talking about it are the ones the most knowledgeable on it, the only difference in their posts is them being on the fair or unfair side. Trolling or not. 

    The ones who really are full of themselves, are the anti-cheat companies, the companies which gaming companies rely on. From just laughable protection up to complete rootkits, from false bans to exposing most of a server cheating, from simple kicking removal to full hardware bans... it really never has been of any real help. People who claim otherwise have an agenda, because, if people want to, they will play unfair, in exactly the same way that people who want to play fair do play fair. Let's not even get into corruption of staffs, volunteers, profit margins and what have you. The point here is that all this crap didn't get games anywhere near what those companies advertise to us. Games need something new in that aspect. 

     

    The only time online multiplayer games had near-perfect fair-play, was when hosting your own server was a thing. Basically this meant that you could kick anyone you didn't like playing with you. It's a can of worms in itself, but as far as this fantasy of fair play online goes that historically was the best available option. Of course you could host an unfair server as well. All up to you.

     

    Enjoy the game, do not get caught up in the yes versus no nonsense. It is a big waste of your time. Understandable that people want to be heard. And yes, people know, but honestly, getting into it, is exactly what people who play unfair online want from you. The more you understand unfair play the more seducing it might become. Enjoy what you do, or take a break from it and do something else. That's the real power you have. Anything else you can think of, are just fantasy band-aids. A GM in game? Even hidden GM's are detected. Anti cheat? Laughable. At this day and age, no place out there is going to give you a full fair game, not a single game out there, unless you can host your own and decide for yourself who can play with you. No forum is going to fully side with you, whatever your stance is. Actually, trolling you is what many forumrites are waiting for. Maybe you need a certain age to see all this, but it's just what it is in 2019. 🙂

     

     

    [/ok mom] 😹

    This post is so articulate! I am in love. Okay love is a strong feeling to describe.

     

    But I can't help but actually feel the positive behind the message. Thank you.

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  16. 22 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

    Well since we are sharing stories.....

     

    A long time ago the clan I am in let a particular girl in.

    one day she admitted to it but then it got weirder than that.

    she punched her laptop because her boyfriend got mad at her because she was cheating on him with a girl.

    That girl got mad at her as well by the way.

     

    later she punched her laptop again while we were all playing because then they started seeing each other and blew her off.

    she killed it.

     

    my story is worse I  win..... by the way I'm not trolling , I give you all my word it did happen.

     

     

    ok back on topic.

    no anti cheat is 100% effective ; it is impossible to do so.

    some people on here have comps that are a minimum of  3,000 American dollars and share their builds.

    in bronze and silver I  have not seen anyone suspicious lately but that obviously does not mean they do not exist.

    Little Orbit changed anti cheats because they believe in doing good for  APB.

     

    One final thing : everyone please make sure to not blame Little Orbit for what cheaters chose to do to Little Orbit. It is not fair to blame a victim.

    Oh there can be other tactics used to combat cheaters. Some companies have even resorted to legal action, which proved effective in sending a clear message to the people cheating in those games.

     

    Little Orbit isn't the only victim to the actions of players who cheat. Paying customers, and legitimate players also suffer firsthand at the actions of these people who break the rules for their own gain and twisted amusement. Assuming ownership of the game, means that they accepted the responsibility for handling the problem with cheaters.

     

    Also that girl seems like she made a few poor choices. 


  17. 13 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

    Anyone can get 5 star notoriety its easy to.

    cops arrest crims 

    crims ram raid and trash the city.

     

    some people have good graphics cards so the lag is less noticeable to them.

    A GTX 1050 TI or higher is advisable. ( newegg.com price around 140.00 )

    its why on laggy days it does not hit me as hard as others.

    Out of respect, I have witnessed some things in the past thanks to a former friend allowing me to sit audience to their game play while they played on an alternate account.

     

    Needless to say I am no longer their friend, but I am also not convinced in any form that good graphics cards are the only contributing factor for those people winning.

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  18. 11 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

    Was getting work done so I coudlnt.

    Read how the server was having trouble

    Yes it was a mess.

     

    And it was highly likely that there were a few script kiddies running about. Especially since the same low rank individuals were repeatedly going 5 stars, in a district full of high ranking players. That alone is evidence for me to question the legitimacy of some. I did my part and reported them as one should. Beyond that I tried to have fun in any way that I could.

     

    When the game is completely unplayable, but there are players still winning at an increased advantage you should never discredit the idea that they may be utilizing third party assistance. So we'll agree to disagree.


  19. 15 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:

    From what some on the forums said , Jericho had server trouble of some sort yesterday.

    As for your personal experience , I honestly doubt you ran into hackers.

    Since I play on bronze as well as silver and have not seen anyone suspicious in around a  month now.

    Different experiences I suppose. Which server do you play on?

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