Zian
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2 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:not on Jericho there's hardly any
There's also hardly any players on Jericho. So say six cheaters to be on a server with a population of seventy, means there's almost one hacker per ten legitimate players.
That's enough to cause a disturbance in game balance overall. Especially if some are blatant.
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3 hours ago, VanilleKeks said:We the remaining silvers of APB Reloaded are sick and tired of the yrs of lax policies against better players!
Bring back name & shame!
Ban people after 10 reports!
Prevent the best players from leaving fightclub!
Add the riot gas to fightclub so that they suffer in there!
Fund the new silvian reich!
Do you always produce such propaganda?
Everyone can agree that blatant cheating is a problem. But it seems like there's a strong unified front towards cheaters being removed from this game.
No one said "Punish good players" and to call a blatant cheater a "Just another good player" is an attempt to pull the wool over the eyes of people who are willing to call out the BS, or simply want to stand up to the fact that there is nothing being done.
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8 hours ago, Seadee said:do you play every moment of every day? i cant count the amount of days premium i've lost by simply doing other things that day, they wont be reimbursing me for that, what have you "lost" for that premium time missed, did you just sit there starting at your desktop crying into a hot cup of coco wishing APB was playable?
where have you been for the last 10 years? ...
am i just being cynical? perhaps, it gets to all of us eventually.But I am paying for the option to play for every moment.
If that is being compromised, I have been cheated from services paid for to the company that is supposed to make sure my ability to do so remains an option to me. And not just myself but all players.
My money went into this product. Money that I have earned, and the money that many other players have earned. I am fortunate enough to do as I please. But some players aren't, for some, that $10.00 could've gone somewhere that wouldn't be compromised by lax moderation over a product that was promised to be fixed a year and seven months ago.;
Perhaps you like products of poor quality. But no one is being held accountable, and it's nauseating at the mass of sheep who refuse to do so out of fear.
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46 minutes ago, claude said:All im reading is "just detect better, just get a better AC, just punish them harder."
It's almost like you're completely ignoring last years implementation of Battleye, and this years implementation of EAC. What the hell is a petition going to do? Petitions aren't spells that are magically casted when it reaches a milestone amount of signatures, there are real people working on this game, and they're giving it all they got.
I find it really annoying how often people hackusate in this game. I mean seriously, you're a Jericho player ffs. How many people in Jericho do you think cheat? I struggle to even name 1/2 people who actively cheat on Jericho enough for it to be as much of an issue as you make it out to be. Have you even played on Citadel? The legit players on Citadel make the people you hackusate on Jericho look like silvers, maybe you should get stomped by them for a while so you can be grateful for the lack of Nekrovian borgs on Jericho. Or just quit the game/find something else to play instead of parroting what you've been saying forever now, all while ignoring Little Orbit striving to make the game better.
Have you seriously not been paying attention to the direction of where this game is going? Let alone the blatant cheaters that are running around the past week or so.
Jericho is an unplayable mess right now, and all you can do is use the "git gud bro" argument. If they were trying to make this game better, then they need to try harder. That's why a call for a petition exists in the first place.
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7 minutes ago, AsgerLund said:Anyone who is blatantly cheating should be instantly banned. Rank has nothing to do with it. And anyone who is cheating should be banned, again regardless of rank.
If you're going by just how he composed the post alone, then you're taking him too literal in his composition of the post. Doing so opens the door for dismissing him, diminishing the validity of his frustrations, and gives permission for trolls to ruin his day.
It was pretty easy to see that he didn't mean legitimate R195 players.
I fixed your post.
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7 minutes ago, Seedy said:heres looking at you Zian! FWA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
A reminder that a customer has to purchase more than a quarters worth of G1C before acquiring any premium time to begin with. To purchase one months worth you have to spend $10.00 USD.
Your immaturity is boundless, if you're laughing at this.
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1 hour ago, toodamnmuch said:every ban should be a hardware ID ban by default, at least this way the retards who don't use brain wouldn't come back instantly with a different account.
really get sick of literally every day another reroll blatant hacker who never loses, frankly if you're under r195 and gold you should be instantly-banned because you're either getting carried or you're doing way better than any actual newbie would.
He's saying if the person is r195 and is blatantly cheating, then they should be instantly banned.
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In-game name Dianelle Rank 255.
You have my name.
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36 minutes ago, BlueB said:I once lost like a month of prem and then i see these guys asking for prem for a few days... how do you pretend me to hold all these direct insults?
Heck i lost more than that with their crapy weapon "balance".
That's a significant loss. If I were in your shoes, I would've sought out some sort of compensation.
I literally decided before these last few days that I wouldn't play the game for a year, so that the new owners Little Orbit and MattScott would have time to fix the issues in the game. If I wanted to truly be hostile, I would opt for asking for that years worth of time back.
But I felt it reasonable to only ask for these last few days to be compensated. As MattScott told us that while we were under a DDOS attack, that this "solution" was functioning and that it was more likely latency in this thread. Then now on another thread, he admits to the game being under DDOS attack over the holiday weekend.
And now in another thread, he has openly told the community that an issue dating back to January 2018 has flooded support to the point, where now the response time is finally down to 3 weeks. This is regarding the massive password reset GamersFirst did, which then in turn caused many players to lose access to their account. Slowly issues are adding up both from the past and present, many players are losing out on premium time on accounts that they can't access also.
There should be more outrage. But I'm willing to settle for what I can negotiate for. If that's a few days for a tiny bit of the massive amount of trouble, so be it.
If you don't get that premium back, I'm sorry about your loss of game time.
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17 minutes ago, MattScott said:Hi all,
Just a quick note to say thank you to everyone who sent me latencyreports over the holiday. We are using that data to do more tuning on the solution.
Thanks,
Matt
What about lost premium time?
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17 hours ago, Sophiie said:GMs can't accurately detect cheaters anyways by 'sitting in a district'. Even with a spectate, you can't tell if someone is just using a wallhack.
The issue has to be solved with detection and a learning algorithm that eventually flags cheaters into the same matches together, and isolates legitimate players from them without even letting the cheater know that they are being soft-banned. Not only will this improve the game for legitimate players, it will require zero intervention, can be integrated into existing solutions, and will allow illegitimate players to have the illusion of their hack working and to contribute financially to the game.
Also, it's very important to never announce you are doing this sort of thing if you implement it. Just take my idea and do it.
It's fairly easy to spot a hacker by the blatant actions of some.
And it has been the actions of blatant hackers these past few days, that has caused a stir. Many of them aren't even trying to hide it at this point, because they are able to go unchecked.
The GM being in district to issue manual bans, would be a temporary solution until the engine upgrade was finished. Yours would be a more permanent solution that should be included into the engine upgrade, that would allow us to have distance from these unsavory types.
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6 hours ago, Havana said:From what I have seen, and especially here on the forums. No one has the Ethical ability to be a GM amyways.
Everyone hates my posts. But, all my posts are only geared towards making the game better for the new player and increasing the community.
Something that is apparently despised by forum trolls.
I mean, really. we have ZERO ADULTS here. I can make a call for against something or somebody based on facts. Regardless of wheter I like or despise the person.
But, our own government can't do it. SO, I am crazy to think players in APB actually could.
Hey if I had the opportunity, I would willingly prove I have the ethical ability and capacity to do the job as best to my ability as possible. Though with how Little Orbit conducts itself, I wouldn't want to apply for any position within their company.
No one likes the truth, in any form you present it. That's something I learned a long time ago on these forums. So really it's best just to stick to your guns, because everyone here is a stranger.
The anonymity is what trolls live off of, because they're afraid to actually have any shred of truth exposed. It keeps their only form of popularity thriving. So really I wouldn't take it to a personal level that they'd rather despise you. My first post was harsh criticism, and some of my other ones have been as well. They weren't liked except by a few, and that means there's a huge part of the community that disagrees with the idea that this needs to be addressed.
Some of the people who applied though, might not have played the game in years, and others might have applied by other means. But your point of the low population in game literally means we don't need many GMs to be active at a time, just enough to make a noticeable difference in balancing things out to some semblance of fair game play again.
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2 minutes ago, GhosT said:But only because it wildly banned anyone even remotely looking towards another player through a building.
That's strange to me since I've never or anyone in my clan for that matter, been accidentally banned by any of the anti-cheats while playing this game.
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23 minutes ago, TecH EU2 said:Thank you for the referal to your post.
You're welcome. At this point we're figuratively being told to get bent by Little Orbit from their lack of ambition to take any measures necessary to combat this problem.
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Hi,
It's very frustrating when people cheat in this game. And this thread, despite the negativity it has received, is an open letter essentially to Little Orbit. What I would like to do is organize those legitimate players who are frustrated into a single thread, to reflect the seriousness of the problem going on with APB reloaded and the neglect Little Orbit has been showing as of lately.
It's not right how they're not taking responsibility for their part in this problem. We as consumers are losing premium time and money, while people who cheat are rewarded for their poor behavior. So please join my thread and keep it going.
Also if you could private message me the names of the cheaters, I would like to add them to my private list that I have been composing of cheaters I have encountered in this game.
Thanks,
Z
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5 hours ago, Havana said:It would be nice to see some GMs, I NEVER see any. Been at least 2 years since I have seen one. But the rare occasion I have seen one it was ridicuolus.
Everyone asking really stupid questions and asking for FREE SHITE! Its soo immature, but thats the majority of the APB community sadly.
That is a unfortunate thing. But they don't need to respond to questions or requests to remove cheaters from the game either. So that's kinda on them if they get wrapped up in that sort of thing.
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34 minutes ago, Nickolai said:I just saw this thread is HOT, I have no idea what's going on and I'm seeing just 3 people argue all day like
Keep going lads. Whatever you are doing is amusing.
I'll break it down.
I am sick of cheaters, and voiced that again this game needs more effective moderation.
Trolls chimed in.
So far 1 out of 2 in the opposition is remaining in a mild manner, and respectful.
The other guy is just vomiting out as much trash as possible. To the point where he's now in conversation with himself and his extremely long context twisting posts.
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4 minutes ago, Glaciers said:if i don't agree with you on the process im not going to just blindly throw my vote in for it
honestly don't use those much, i find them kind of useless especially for any post with more than 2 opinions
also just saying "nah" isnt very constructive
yeah there's nothing stopping little orbit from starting or stopping such a program at any time, but i think the damage will be done no matter how on top of the situation they are - there are still people who think sov is a protected cheat clan even tho apb doesnt even have the same owners anymore
for a concrete example when lixil streamed playing with an alleged cheater from the g1 era, the forums legitimately exploded - there were so many people spamming variations of "orbit prioritizing cheaters" that the site bugged out
But you are throwing a vote in, opposing a idea that could promote solutions if we gave Little Orbit the pressure to do so.
They aren't useless, if they were they wouldn't be used. It's essentially a poll that can determine the overall viewpoint of the community without the need for toxic behavior.
You're right, that isn't constructive. That's just as constructive as saying "Add it to the pile" which one person did. Then after brief vulgarity from that person, I ended up respectfully putting them on ignore, and reporting that user.
The fact that there is still belief that there is a protected cheat clan, means Little Orbit haven't done anything effective yet to disprove that idea.
Also if there were that many people aggressively attacking Little Orbit to the point of the forums no longer functioning. There had to be some validity in the claim, which should have prompted Little Orbit to make some sort of open investigation. Disproving the masses would've been a good way to at the very least save that part of their reputation in the moment.
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4 minutes ago, Tizzie said:If we want game fixed we need Colby server back
Thank you for joining in. Replying to the same people was becoming tedious.
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23 hours ago, Glaciers said:im not opposing the solutions im opposing you
the manual bans thing kind of ties in to how it goes sour - examples being revoemag's "i decide who cheats", or sovereign's "pocket GM" byrt/jobs
or since orbit uses player GMs the examples would be the old SPCC member that claimed triggerbots weren't cheating, or the forum mod that was a blatant cheater ingame
im not saying i don't want it, but its silly to pretend there isnt a risk associated
on this we seem to agree
Which in turn reflects a divided front towards creating pressure for solutions. In turn again adding as a benefit for anyone who is cheating in the game. Thus, meaning you're opposing solutions. Actions = Consequences. You already admitted to being short sighted in that respect.
If you didn't oppose solutions, you wouldn't have said anything at all except simply hit the dislike button. A primary feature on these forums, that I actually admire for being implemented in the first place.
Currently keeping any Game Moderator neutered is a foolish idea. Little Orbit has different employees, and they should at least be given the opportunity to test this solution out. If they end up corrupt, screen shots and video will prove that it was a terrible idea. But any idea at this point being implemented beyond what is happening now, is a good idea. At any point and time that decision can be reversed and the ban abilities can be taken away again by MattScott.
I'm glad we can start to agree on something.
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23 hours ago, Fortune Runner said:so approving of the Engine Upgrade so that matchmaking/threat/phasing can be done is opposing ,
Or how the new anti cheat was added since the other one was bypassed and not good enough anymore
Or how there is new anti DDoS protection because they want better solutions .......wow
sometimes gms can stop a district with all the chatter to where people stop playing.
it was one of the complaints about a con to gm presense
if you don't want to buy something fine. I dont think others feel the same with how they like stuff on here and want it.
auto correct sucks don't it? oh well ROFL (laughing at that and how you nit pick it lol)
you add a lot of filling but no substance.
someone had to clear it up since you directed a lot at us for not agreeing with you.
you already did when your posts were insulting us for not agreeing with you.
because replying directly to your quotes must be projecting..... *facepalm*
I'm immature because i don't agree with you and the misinformation you've had for how many pages now?
its been non stop misinformation with you.
then am i to assume it was mature of you to constantly insult people who didnt agree with you?
never said that. i did say when some shotguns turned not shotgun snipers that it was bad , but that the overall regular parts i liked because it didn't feel like overkill
you didn't know what they meant and used it against me so yes i did.
and it too k me about 30 seconds so not really time wasted as to say , video games?
i mean no matter what we do in life time gets used up somehow....
because I dont agree with you....yes i know.
but like I've told others before on different threads , I cant think of anyone i wouldn't have over for pancakes
you know ...the whole community at once for breakfast or something? yeah something like that.....yes even for you. unlike you in this part I'm replying to , i don't think like that.
I actually don't have a cell phone hooked up (its mentioned on a different thread too - I tend to be open)
and even then why would i give it to you?
not like i know you.
sorry but you're not that special to me so yes you just got dumped.
I'm actually in a very happy relationship, so I was never interested to begin with.
You're too immature for my taste, lack the ability to comprehend much, and insert yourself in front of others like a bratty child.
At best you're worth going out and making sure you had a glass of water, while I ate dinner. Seeing as you're so broke that you can't afford your cell phone, I also wouldn't want you to be dehydrated from being so thirsty for my attention.
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23 hours ago, Glaciers said:ive barely praised them at all, what are you on about
where have i said things are okay?
didnt i list out like half a dozen problems i have with orbit earlier?
i dont want to straight up deny this because its likely true, but there are several ways increased GM presence could go sour
where do you see a minimum? we sure aren't hitting months of silence like with g1
what would my hard stance be? not playing? not paying?
i think thats redundant
and im not waffling or ambivalent at all, i just don't condemn the entire company because they arent handling a single issue the way i want
You create a list about a dozen things, but then oppose solutions to a problem that Little Orbit inherited once they purchased this game. A problem that in and of itself at this point needs to be addressed prior to the engine upgrade, or the engine upgrade itself will simply be worthless.
In what way would GM presence go sour? Especially since in the past GMs of this video game have personally entered districts, without the need for a special event. Answered questions that they felt was worth their time, and even personally banned players for misconduct.
Not giving them money is a good start on having an actual stance, and keeping honest integrity to yourself.
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23 hours ago, Fortune Runner said:when your reply's are not reply's they are not responding but an acknowledgment to the opposite.
less interest by you? sure why not. maybe you'll stop posting intentional misinformation and give it a rest.
an accusation of me and vanity? you definitely don't know me then LOL
if i do not agree with something then i do not agree with it. this is the public community forums and i have as much right to post as any other community member
you are no exception which means i have the right to.
by the way calling you out for misinformation and al that biasness of yours ; not a bad thing
well considering i had to give you definitions that you didn't know what they meant , while you were twisting words and adding more and more misinformation as you accused and slandered , id say i doubt you would say anything good of me especially given i don't agree with you.
but i guess you don't like people thinking for themselves like you were saying about me earlier.
Edit : line didnt get added that you have yet to answer my questions i asked that you still keep dodging.
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And by less interesting, I mean to anyone else on these forums. Unless you forgot about people who would've said TLDR by now to how you compose your posts.
If I didn't like people thinking for themselves, I would've been one to say so. Again something you're projecting onto me. Because I have stuck with my own thoughts regarding the matter, and remain unswayed by your immaturity. If anything I am actually trying to encourage independent thought from the "ALL HAIL LITTLE ORBIT" authoritarianism you're displaying.
You didn't have to give me any definitions, you willingly chose to search dictionary websites to waste your own time.
And with how you're displaying key factors of your personality via post, i'd actually be disgusted to know you as a person. i'd probably put you in my phone as a specific nickname so i'd know to ignore your calls.
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3 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:This is the forums for APB where the community talks , and where you dodge replying to hide responsibility lol
Posting evidence and having witnesses ( SPCT ) are far greater than G1. Once again you like to twist things to deny responsibility for your actions.
because definitions somehow change? No you need to know what words mean. That should of learned that in elementary school.
You dodged denied slandered accused and misinformed all with no evidence yet keep doing so. That is not taking responsibility that is running from it.
When your "points" are to accuse slander misinform dodge questions (which you did again) and in a large mass like this then no its your fault that your "points" have no merit.
i quoted your whole posts and replied to them in portions so you could understand easier since you do not know definitions while you dodged questions and then slandered and twisted the truth while completely fabricating elsewhere. you are as honest as a 3 dollar bill and made yourself out to be that.... the quotes were directly from YOU
you forgot I'm laughing at how ignorant you are and how you go out of your way to be. I'm not angry at all.
two different things.
1 i think that educating someone who is wrong is important. Example is if a train is coming and i don't warn them the law says to charge me for manslaughter whether they die or not.
good is not a crime but evil is.
2 i think there's been plenty who read this and wonder why you accused and misinformed ( which if it s not the truth it is a lie intentional or not ) and then wonder WTH
and once again i am also stating NO ONE has agreed with you.
instead you changed this thread to attacking people saying they help cheaters because they don't agree with you.
which by the way is not constructive at all.
which means you derailed yourself (which you accused me of)
its not hard to reply to you , since you dodge questions with slander and accusations so much , and you still didn't answer my questions....again
no actually it shows an unopenness that tends to be repulsive. you refused to hear anyone out and then accused people of aiding cheaters for not agreeing with you and even when quoted on it you blamed them for twisting words from your direct quotes.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/flimsy
flimsy
adjective
flim·sy | \ ˈflim-zē
flimsier; flimsiest
Definition of flimsy
(Entry 1 of 2)
1a : lacking in physical strength or substance flimsy silks wore a flimsy dress
b : of inferior materials and workmanship flimsy construction
2 : having little worth or plausibility
please listen to your own words on this and how NO ONE has agreed with you.
saying that if something is good is good for APB and something not good is not good for APB is not being flimsy.
Your accusations however have no value.
most have been in a major slump and are not doing well.
how many have announced they are closing stores?
And how is Little Orbit working on the Engine Upgrade like we need NOT tending to the community properly when no major core fixes can be made without it ????
you have twisted words again....
Because misunderstandings happen however that does not justify you going out of your way to be arrogant and ignorant to the truth as much as you have done.
gluing different examples together that have an inaccurate collaboration expressed by you does not equal truth.
I have put money onto APB as well , but unlike you , i have seen two different anti cheats now from Little Orbit clearly NOT neglecting against cheaters as your posts on this thread claim.
by the way " my friends left so its Little Orbits fault for neglect" is beyond flawed.
its easily possible they left because of you with what behavior i see on your posts the past week.
standing with a black and white viewpoint would imply a standing for justice , which has honor , and your posts did not do so.
however you did not do black and white on this thread because of you misinformation , your dodging questions ,and accusations towards anyone who didn't agree with you ( which seems to be many many pages of no one agreeing with you)
Because GM's are supposed to only sit in the servers 24/7 and not do any other work? ( or eat or sleep or kids etc )
even then they can not see everything.
if you are referring to doing this at all , then they already do and we say hi to them.
never know with you though since you say one thing then say the opposite to dodge responsibility.
see above ^^^^ and wow cant believe you went there after you just did that....yet again.
no stopping the Engine Upgrade would dissatisfy the community because it is a core problem needing addressing which is being tested by SPCT and QA
not agreeing with your misinformation which then turned into a thread of you slandering and accusing people who did not agree with you however has no productivity.
because saying they neglect cheating issues isn't saying that they are as bad as G1 ?
Little Orbit has worked hard in front of everyone and there are enough detailed threads on what has been done in one year which is more than G1 has in years (possibly ever)
or that someone is broke at the moment..... like me after fireworks
this is too simplified of you and is not truthful because of it.
real unrealistic of you.
Engine Upgrade is being worked on and matchmaking /threat/phasing is scheduled for after that when it is time.
Not having it all done at once to satisfy you , is not neglect on Little Orbits part.
When they do good its good to say they did good.
nothing wrong with that.
especially since they proved it.
your " posts" had misinformation and some also took to contradicting yourself.
many many assumptions and slander on your part , which are opinions , and not evidence.
you have yet to prove anyone wrong , have yet to show any TRUE evidence ,have constantly twisted words and slandered , and all around have gone out of your way to do so.
oh and once again no one has agreed with you. (since you keep ignoring that and insist you are right even though there is more than enough evidence saying otherwise)
little Orbit is not G1 you do know that don't you?
communication is on a regular basis , wow flat out lied there.
and two anti cheats because the first had a new bypass made that isn't solved yet must be neglect.....wow really?
oh and by the way they even reached out to other companies before for new ideas so yes they are trying new things however the old engine we currently have limits what can be done.
i mean it is 10 years old....
considering they proved who they are to the whole community adn ahve work to show for it ?
the truth was proven to all of the community for over a year now , yet you deny it like they did nothing.
that is not sheep with blind faith that is people who are not blind because we have seen the work and played it as well.
you are not apologetic for anything actually.
your frustrations of accusing neglect on APB is unwarranted
they literally just added a new anti cheat to protect against cheaters.
the community said they were frustrated over the bypass done to BattleEye.
you misinformed again.
but thats all your posts were..... then you dodged questions....over ..and over...and over ROFL
So far there's only been misinformation , accusations , and you pretty much saying every one else is wrong and at fault even though NO ONE AGREES WITH YOU
If I was dodging replies, I wouldn't have responded at all. No matter how obvious you're crude displays of attempting to create an intelligent post may seem.
And no matter how much you add to each post, really you're just creating less interest in how you're just spilling out a pile of word vomit to stroke your vanity. Repeating that I am supposedly misinformed with each snippet of context, also doesn't make you anymore correct. Adding phrases in capital letters, only shows that you should probably take a break and let adults have a conversation.
You're literally pulling from replies that are directed to other people, to act as though they were directed towards you. Which is the most conceited and desperate thing a person could do in order to remain relevant enough to add any input into the conversation.
At least with Glacier he keeps things more mildly mature, and concise.
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46 minutes ago, Glaciers said:i’m not sure this relates to what you quoted unless you’re addressing things out of order, this portion was about your strange stance of
where somehow there is no middle ground - a way to be critical of some aspects and not others
if you truly believe a company is completely incapable why would you want to wait around, the most likely outcome is remaining incapable
no dumbo, that means we’ve both spent money on apb - if anything i’ve spent more than you
why am i not allowed to commit to both?
the problem with your black and white viewpoint is that it would have me continue to tear down little orbit over increasingly small issues even if/when they begin turning things around, or continue to blindly praise them even as the population dwindles and the servers go dark
meanwhile in a reality where the community is “allowed” to criticize and praise and equal measure, wouldn’t accurate feedback help orbit understand successes and apply that knowledge to failures?
But yet they aren't doing much to warrant the amount of praise that you're giving them.
It's a bit redundant how that's been pointed out multiple times in my posts. And if you've spent more money than I on APB you should be holding yourself to a higher standard than that of a fool whom continues to be under the impression that things are okay. You're literally saying "Darn you let me down again, but that's okay cause you gave me a incremental improvement that's a bit too late".
If this game was given the attention that I am arguing for, there would be an increasing player base. Communication wouldn't be kept to a minimum, and there would be more activity safeguarding this games integrity against cheaters. As it stands, they have not increased any measure to actually try new ideas. They're throwing Anti-cheats that are obviously not working at a problem that requires the attention of a human being. That in itself is accurate feedback. End of story.
If they deserved my praise or any intelligent individuals for that matter, they'd be doing a better job. Right now they simply have a following of sheep to defend them with blind faith. And even then you say you're for improvements, but you take no hard stance to those words.
I am not apologetic for my assertiveness when it comes to my money, or for speaking up regarding the same frustration other players share. So ultimately we're just going to agree disagree on a continuous basis for the length of this entire thread.
Waffling over your ambivalence with Little Orbit is only making you look more like a milksop.
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3 minutes ago, Glaciers said:but you’ve said that i either have to fully support a company or believe them completely incapable, surely you aren’t saying that no two people have opposing preferences which are impossible to both satisfy?
its entirely reasonable to be critical of certain aspects of little orbit without casting the entire company into the void
i’ve no idea, as what i regard as good is subjective
the parentheses were just vague examples, not specifically apb related
sorry bud, being a paying customer doesn’t differentiate us
good thing i’ve never said otherwise, in fact i believe i explicitly stated that GMs being unable to ban is not my stance
I said and repeatedly stated your current state of views creates a obstacle of which to apply pressure on Little Orbit to actually act and satisfy its customer base. Especially while pursuing this line of opposition to handling a very present problem to the game, which again is something that in turn indirectly benefits the less than savory population of the player base.
Who said I was casting them into the void, I wasn't calling for the end of the company. But for them to act on promises that they made, which was to be a different entity to that of Gamersfirst.
The fact that someone paid for something, versus someone simply enjoying the free trial version is actually a strong indicator that there is a difference in what we are experiencing as a product.
I never said that you said that it was impossible. I said in that in a overall general context. You took that upon yourself to say that I said that you said such things. If I said "You saying otherwise is a fallacy", then i'd be addressing any direct statement you may have made...
So to that, this is really just a tiring game on your end of back and forth. If you want to stick to your opposing view and praise Little Orbit for the less than stellar job, you should actually commit to it. Or commit to the fact that you even said that there are a number of things they could fix. Flopping does nothing, except add ineffectual stress to people who actually want to see things change.
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7 minutes ago, Glaciers said:thanks for playing
yeah here in the real world we use accepted definitions of words, especially when vaunting our pseudo-intellectual expertise
being critical requires objectivity, while a black and white viewpoint may help (do i like this product or not) it may also hinder (i don’t like all of this product but it’s the best option)
i guess i’ll just repeat myself here
because if everyone boycotted companies as soon as they found the slightest flaw we’d still be pre-industrial revolution - everyone has different preferences and there’s no way for a single product or company to be “perfect” for hundreds/thousands/millions of different people
If it's impossible for companies to perfect their ability to serve customers properly, then why are their major retailers across the world? Because they continue to refine their abilities to better provide a service that is adequate to keep them in business. Little Orbit is lacking in that obviously.
Surprisingly you'd be shocked at how many words are misused, yet still convey the same effectiveness. In the real world, mistakes occur in the use of the English language all the time. But besides that, it doesn't change how you're acting.
What parts of APB are the best option compared to other games? The fact that it's free on steam? Economically that makes sense for someone who is in dire straits. If that's the case for you, I suppose settling for something flawed would be the best course of action.
But I put money into this game. Over a thousand dollars in fact, I wasted a years worth of premium time giving Little Orbit space to sort things out after they inherited the mess Gamersfirst created. My entire clan has essentially abandoned this game, and my friends have moved onto other games due to the neglect that's been brought upon by Little Orbit.
So.. I guess that's the difference between us if my assumption is correct. My black and white viewpoint stems from having the ability to put funds elsewhere, while a game that I put money into dies off because simple actions cannot be done to prevent such things from happening.
Any one GM can easily rotate their presence among the servers, with how low the populations are. That GM can make note of suspicious players, and then take appropriate action needed to keep cheaters at bay. Saying otherwise is a fallacy, and denying the possibility enables the problem to worsen over time.
Lastly, you're acting like the bumbling moron you claim to loathe. Except in a highly hypocritical capacity.
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It's not a cry of elitism, when you display that you're an elitist by throwing shade at players who'd like to get better.
The blatant cheaters in this game prevent that, and it's something that shouldn't have to be out right pointed out. Especially to a "Top Tier" player.
The fact that even your efforts are ignored, should make you a little more aggravated. Or willing to provide constructive feedback, without the sarcasm belittling the OP with misinformation peppered through your post.
The fact that you haven't played a lot, means that you're missing out on the overall current status of how things have been within the game. Your feedback is essentially just from the forums point of view only.
False, if I saw one I wouldn't be bothered. But I've seen quite a few so far that have gone days without being taken from the server.
Again you're creating lies. I'm starting to think you have unchecked sociopathic tendencies.