Zian
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26 minutes ago, largeAPBgamer said:free premium when?
Agreed. Players so be compensated for this trouble.
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50 minutes ago, Glaciers said:yeah sorry my dude, i should have known that direct quotes of you saying “you’re benefiting cheaters” actually meant something else
i’m ”trying so hard” because you keep bringing it up
yeah typically if i don’t have anything to say about something i won’t quote it, that seems like common sense
if you're going to try word games at least understand the vocabulary you’re attempting to use - i even defined it for you already
off the top of my head?
-incapable of meeting a deadline
-riot
-delays
-slow feedback acknowledgement
-unofficial official discord
-nearly invisible CM
-delays
-player GMs
-what appears to be poor server management
-delays
-poor grasp of weapon balance
-lack of smaller (assumedly) not-engine-upgrade-dependent fixes
-have i mentioned delays?
-joker store issues
-armas issues
-delays again
i have a lot more super petty gripes but formatting on mobile is awful
Actually you keep bringing it back up with a twisted version of what I said. You're directly implicating yourself with your own words at this point.
Actions can indirectly benefit others. It's called a ripple effect. You don't have to be aware of what you're doing, or in direct line of support, to give others what they want. In this case, it's benefiting players who cheat.
Common sense dictates that you're not taking in the full capacity of what I am saying. Therefore only reading what you want to see, and trying to make others see what it is you're essentially creating falsehoods over.
I'm pretty aware of what words mean. There isn't a game at play, when it comes to the fundamental understanding of English, or most words in general. A slur is something akin to hate speech, an insinuation is a subtle implication of another subject matter relevant to the current topic. Common knowledge for most people who attend any Reading, English, or Literature classes since it such learning opportunities have been available in most schools across the world.
As for your issues with the company, it's probably smarter to stay to one stance. Either you're for them, or you're firm in your belief that they are displaying incapable qualities of actually managing this game properly. It's not beneficial to you to flip flop on issues that could be changed faster with enough pressure placed on Little Orbit.
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6 hours ago, Fortune Runner said:Why do you keep acting like they are public servants is the real question.
Little Orbit has banned. It is published in detail how the ban method functions in detail.
there was a thread a few months ago about a major ban wave even for peoples known accounts who were caught cheating.
You have a full year of forum posts. many people here on the forums have seen this with their own eyes.
Reread your posts on this thread.
once again read your own posts again.
Too bad you are uneducated on what words mean or I wouldn't have to show the dictionary terms....
once again read the forum posts...
so lazy of you
I mean MattScott himself said it since he is the CEO but you cant even use the search for Mattscott's posts to read it?
That is your OPINION not a fact
they have more to do than just hold your hand
Slander is slander. you are in the wrong regardless of how you sugar coat it.
And again because of how you can not accept you are wrong you have to attack someone.
Again old news in an attempt to derail the thread and break the focus. Classic.
So you believe words, and not actions alone?
I don't think you're actually someone who plays this game anymore.
6 hours ago, Glaciers said:nice dodge of your conspiracy theory
ive been very vocal about mistakes i feel little orbit is making
this thing you do where you jump straight to extremes is really weird tbh
another dodge, and downplaying your involvement
they definitely were slurs - an insinuation or allegation about someone that is likely to insult them
didnt even wait a sentence before trying it again
bonus points for the passive aggressive tone
"hey little orbit isnt ignoring cheaters" is not supporting cheaters
"hey maybe try not being a banana" is not supporting cheaters
"hey you're wrong about such and such" is not supporting cheaters
also
i guess you're right you didnt imply it, you just outright stated it
wait here's an implication
At this point when if comes to the implication of me saying you support cheaters, you're only putting words where there are none. You're cherry picking context and again trying to create a narrative around just that alone. Ready for the implication you want: If you don't have any alternative motives, why are you trying so hard to defend yourself from something you're implicating yourself with context from my posts?
I highlight your shortened attention span often, because you're not even reading posts. You're just looking for the most offending thing in them by cutting them down into smaller posts. And narrowing on those parts of the posts I make. Creating your own posts out of the context of my words.
It's a move done out of desperation. You're literally doing everything except begging to god to be proven right. For example trying to redefine an insinuation into a slur, is a bold but obtuse show of how you're now just typing out vomit from the depths of your imagination.
If you aren't a zealot, then what exactly do you feel they are not doing correctly in their business model? You have yet to actually say what it is that you dislike about their company.
6 hours ago, Fortune Runner said:Glaciers and others have said plenty of times to not make APB a game that functions that works around cheaters or it only makes game play worse , so no once again you are wrong
most of your posts were not just harsh as you call it but misinformed and claiming your opinions are facts when it has been shown otherwise
I think you closed your eyes and just started typing with this one.
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On 7/6/2019 at 3:26 AM, Fortune Runner said:SPCT are player testers for the game. Not anything else. Stop projecting new "duties" onto them please. (Of which admins in the forums have said publicly to report them for inappropriate behavior, along with any employee of Little Orbit. So they're held at a higher standard.)
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Wow you are conceited. By name.... so its irrelevant unless they call me by name...omg wow. (You said that "They consider me a bother" which indicates they would have had to say so themselves. They didn't, which makes your assumption of conceit merely just that.)
And just what was made up? Hmm? (Many things, you just need eyes to see that you're typing anything that makes you seem a little more right in the situation.)
I never suggested you did say that either. (But it was, unless you forget about that post?)
You said they were not doing their job and ignoring it. which is why I asked if you were blaming Little Orbit for any cheating that happens. (Ignoring and neglecting are one in the same. They own the game, which means they are responsible for taking care of the cheaters that cheat in their game.)
Nice try but anyone can see you twisted words ...again. (Actually you did by cherry picking context to use in this lengthy post.)
So the Engine Upgrade being tested by SPCT and QA isnt enough how? (It's not addressing a problem that is currently ruining the game. Thus making the Engine Upgrade a pipe dream if there are no players who want to play a game filled with people cheating.)
kinda need the Engine Upgrade to do the matchmaking/threat/phasing planned. (I never mentioned this in my posts.)
Twisted words to justify yourself does not justify yourself but instead deceives yourself ~ Quoted from fortune Runner A.K.A me myself and I (And I'm the conceited one?)
Thinking you are amusing with how you insist your opinions are facts? (Never said I was amusing, that was a quote from someone else saying they were amused by my seriousness regarding the issue. READING HELPS.)
Yeah I laugh at that ignorance.
Am I supposed to get mad and insult people instead? (You have been insulting actually.)
No it's more mature to laugh at the absurd. (Calling someone absurd and the subject itself absurd is the definition of being insulting.)
Can anyone truly say they are? (Anyone of sound mind can. Psychology 101.)
Never said gun balancing takes priority over anything. (Gun balancing was used as an example of "More important things.")
Never came close to that either.
I don't see what you are referring to that would suggest that from the post of mine you quoted.
Opinion is not fact , so yes that would be a delusion. (Then why are there other people who share similar complaints on other threads if i'm the only one who seems to have a problem?)
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/delusion
delusion
noun
de·lu·sion | \ di-ˈlü-zhən
, dē-\
Definition of delusion
1a : something that is falsely or delusively believed or propagated under the delusion that they will finish on schedule delusions of grandeur
b psychology : a persistent false psychotic belief regarding the self or persons or objects outside the self that is maintained despite indisputable evidence to the contrary
No you don't work on APB coding in itself or your butt would of been fired ages ago
You cant steal the beard ROFL (I never said I did any coding in my personal life, another thing you're making up to add to the argument as failed attempt in being insulting.)
And I have the right to refuse service to anyone.(You work for Little Orbit?)
You don't own my place I do. (I never claimed to "own" your place.)
Sorry your tiara doesn't mean much. (You keep bringing up this Tiara, but I don't have one.)
Once again , SPCT are testers for the Engine Upgrade by players for players. (And as a means for Little Orbit to gain feedback from volunteers accepted into their company. Making them unpaid employees of Little Orbit.)
Many games do this to find bugs that QA itself can not find since players are an enigma on how they play.
That is your opinion , which by many game companies in the industry , have proven you wrong on. (List the companies in my lifetime that have taken the time out of their busy schedule to prove me wrong.)
Little Orbit has already done better than I expected. (In one year they have only done literally a few months of work on this game.)
The vast majority of my posts have been to not blame Little Orbit for what G1 , or DDoS'ers , or even cheaters do. (Yet Little Orbit owns the rights to the game of which they acquired from Gamersfirst. They inherited the responsibility of ensuring fair play in their game for players.)
And that is because there's always someone similar to you , who blames them , because in their opinion Little Orbit owns APB so it must be their fault because of it. (So other people share my concern? Wow I am happy that I am not the only one who isn't afraid to be critical of a game company that made promises to make things different.)
Which is a load of garbage. (Why is that garbage?)
In case you didn't catch that , I do speak up.
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^^^ clearly talk enough and speak my mind (And can't admit to your own flaws or put proper thought behind your arguments without them being torn apart all over again.)
At this point you're like a coloring book, anyone can read you. Adding definitions pulled off of google won't really change that.
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On 7/6/2019 at 5:45 AM, Glaciers said:a company intentionally implementing not one but two faulty anticheats to purposefully fool their playerbase is a conspiracy theory level reach, im not touching that
all permanent bans are manual (although based on anticheat flags) as of the last info the community was given
this was actually a typo on my part, it was meant to say "within the community"
and not allowing GMs to manually ban ingame isnt my side, but given that both you and i know they don't is there a need for posts?
well
your first 3 posts in this thread were an immediate attack on another user
then you tried a "nice english" routine (btw there were no spelling errors in that post aside from a self-censor)
honestly not going to bother going past the first page, but im pretty sure there were some insults thrown around during the whole "spct has standards" drivel
i dont really have any feelings towards you tbh, you've been pretty mellow when talking to me aside from a strange obsession with implying i support cheaters
yes your original post described itself as "harsh" and i understand the attempt to showcase your displeasure, but resorting to falsehoods (good word btw) when there's ample evidence to the contrary isnt the right way to do it imo
Actually, there is a need for evidence if you're going to say such things.
That's called backing up your claims that Little Orbit has done certain things. Otherwise you're just making things up.
The fact that they aren't actively monitoring their product besides the use of software that is being bypassed, means they are neglecting their game. They wouldn't outright admit to that, otherwise they'd lose the admiration of zealots like you.
Again old news about someone that decided to attempt instigation over the subject at hand. I called them a clown, which is neither a slur or lewd comment.
Again, I understand that you have a short attention span, so i'll type it out again. Your actions on this thread will only benefit people who cheat, it doesn't matter if you support them or not. Which I never actually implied that you support cheaters. But any rational person would suspect such at this point with how you're acting. It's as if you're not reading at all.
And yes I did say my first post was harsh, but it was written in such a way that was to convey overall disgust for mismanagement and fear that this game will die long before an engine upgrade. I ended my first post with making mention that I value what this game has provided for me in the past.
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28 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:SPCT are player testers for the game. Not anything else. Stop projecting new "duties" onto them please.
Why are you bringing up old news?
42 minutes ago, Bellenettiel said:Look. i don't mean to be mean, but when did little orbit ever pretend there wasn't a cheating problem.
if that were the case, we wouldn't be on our 2nd anti-cheat solution.
I didn't say that they weren't pretending there wasn't a problem, I am simply saying they are neglecting it.
1 hour ago, Glaciers said:the implementation of 2 separate anticheats contradicts this statement
orbits active discussion with the forum community about the cheater issue also contradicts this statement
implementing automatic programs is not the least action possible - and it directly contradicts “little orbit is ignoring the cheater issue”
the pros and cons of more active GMs have been discussed with the community - again directly contradicting “little orbit is ignoring the cheater issue” - and little orbit has appeared to side with the portion of the community that feels there are more cons
since little orbit is not ignoring cheaters, as supported by your very own words above, pointing this fact out is not enabling cheaters
we’ve received pretty comprehensive info on server merges, server infrastructure changes, DDOS mitigation systems, plans for altering game mechanics in the future, and probably more that i’m forgetting atm
you initial post was chock full of inflammatory language
you also jumped straight to personal insults when confronted with responses you didn’t like
What's the best way to make it seem like they're combating the issue except by implementing faulty programs, without actively doing any manual bans what so ever. If they actually bothered to do so, they wouldn't be receiving such criticism from me or other players in the first place.
Care to reference these posts where they've taken your side? If not you're really expelling abhorrent amounts of energy defending them. I mean I already know about their obtuse decision to reverse ban players, which was reopening the flood gates for trouble all over again.
Where did my language become inflammatory? I've kept myself actually in a respectful tone towards you and anyone else in this debate. Especially while you make this extreme effort to discredit anything I say. So if you're inspired to have angry feelings towards me, that's of your own doing.
If anything you're using the wrong words to describe what I am doing, which is designed to be incendiary in its own way. What personal insult did I say? Was it vulgar or lewd? I am sure if anyone cared to actually read the thread, they'd simply see this as another one of your falsehoods so you'd believe what you type out to be true.
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Just now, Glaciers said:“little orbit is ignoring the cheater issue” - fact
”little orbit is taking the least action possible by only implemented automated programs to take care of an issue that needs a proactive solution” - fact
“stating that orbit is not ignoring cheaters means you are enabling of cheaters to persist” - fact
“The only meaningful information delivered thus far, has been how they are developing the EU” - fact
“I have refrained from personally attacking in a insulting way, but instead chose to engage you in an intellectual debate regarding the issue I originally posted about” - fact
im sure i could find more if i go back through the thread
I fixed your post so that it reflected the truth, and now a skewed perception of it.
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15 minutes ago, Glaciers said:i’m not a big fan of pop
im also not disagreeing “just because”, you’ve repeatedly stated misinformed opinions as if they’re objective facts
But they are fact, and you're persistence to deny fact is evidence that you want to argue just because.
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1 minute ago, Glaciers said:again with the attempts at false equivalency
that cheaters still exist is not evidence that orbit is taking the least amount of action possible
and whats with the cheap pop music videos?
You should take a listen to them.
You're literally exhausting with how much you're simply disagreeing "Just because".
You seem to have a pattern of doing that on the forums.
There is no false equivalency. You're simply grasping at straws out of pride.
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1 minute ago, Glaciers said:your “genuine concerns” were A) based on the incorrect premise that orbit is entirely ignoring cheaters, and B) hidden behind an insulting post and an aggressive attitude
calling you out on both is not dismantling anything, nor is it enabling cheaters
Yet they still are very present in the current state of this game. So they must be taking the least amount of action possible, of which you are complicit with.
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7 minutes ago, Glaciers said:ah yes clearly you are the expert on my own feelings
If you do care, then why are you bothering to dismantle genuine concerns? You seem to be very complicated in discerning what your actions actually cause.
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1 minute ago, Glaciers said:has anyone said “there are no cheaters”?
has anyone said “cheating is not a problem”?
i know i haven’t
You honestly don't need to type it out, to see how your actions reflect how you feel on the matter. You may not have directly said that, but you don't care that it is a problem also.
Just now, BlueB said:Then who??
I never reported anyone for going N5.
I said that it's a strong indication for someone to go N5 constantly, that there is potential for them to be a script kiddie. Don't pay attention to him, he's just background noise that attempting to bypass being on ignore.
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Just now, Glaciers said:as in your original post, this is untrue
correcting you is not enabling cheaters, neither is being dismissive of your uninformed opinion
what obstacle?
your post is still visible, all your opinions can still be read
people disagreeing with you is not an obstacle, regardless of whether you’re right or wrong
lmao nice try
People disagreeing with the factual evidence that the problem is there, is a obstacle. Attempting to poorly create your own narrative over my own, which in turn would benefit anyone who actually cheats in this game.
No matter how many times you pull apart my posts to attempt to twist the context. You're really just acting out in overall denial at this point.
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1 minute ago, illgot said:only 2 options unless you are a gold threat, then you only have one half the time.
This is unfortunately true. But it's the only solution to keep a learning curve available for newer players, even with the population as low as it is.
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32 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:Never mind countless times they have said contrary to you on other threads.
So yes your misinformation , which is in some cases flat out lies , is a bother.
The sky is falling because its a popular opinion so the opinion must be a fact...... yeah you sure do know that definition well ROFL
If I was "offended " we wouldn't be talking.
You saying I attempted to "shame" you shows its you who are offended. Nice projection onto me.....
And what facts did you bring? Your OPINION is not a fact.
Little Orbit HAS NOT been supporting cheaters.
Little Orbit HAS been working on core problems of APB contrary to your OPINION.
And as for your MEMORY , we were here for all of this the past few years and G1 for the most part only miked us while Little Orbit has actually been working hard on APB and even the SPCT team has proven to this being a fact with the testing.
If I was hostile I'd be killing you non stop on APB , which I am not doing.
I'm too busy laughing at you wearing your tiara like you are a king when you're a pretty pretty princess , and a spoiled naive one at that LOL
So is it Little Orbit's fault there are cheaters for bypassing cheats?
Tell me is it the police's fault that there are criminals?
Or are you ready to admit Little Orbit has been working hard on problems with APB.
its one thing to criticize over valid things that happened like the gun balancing issues , its another thing to imagine weird things that did not happen when the truth happened in front of you.
Anyone then would have the right to dismiss you for that. ( which you did do wrong )
I have bought clothing and guns myself , that does not mean I am right and Little Orbit is wrong.
money does not = right to slander.
Little Orbit has been working on core problems of APB regardless of you claiming they are not.
False allegations do as well and you appear to be doing a lot of it.
TL;DR you don't know what you are talking about....again.
They have yet to actually say anything directly to me by name in these forums. Now you're starting to make up fiction to suit your own needs in this conversation, to justify anything you say.
I never outright said that Little Orbit supports cheating in their game, if that was my opinion I wouldn't bother with this game or created this thread to begin with.
If they are working on this core problem of the game, they could take more aggressive action to it. Otherwise they're sitting by while servers are barely populated with 100 players shrink down more and more. And the fast rate of such shows. And simply substituted your hostility for amusement to save yourself from having a stroke.
The fact that you openly admit to trying to "laugh at me" for my posts, are just a direct indication that you're not taking your own actions seriously enough and is a reflection of your maturity. That tells me you're actually not fully aware of what you're even doing here.
So you think gun balancing takes presidency over the company providing your balancing being under cyber attack constantly? Interesting how you think that I am falling victim to a made up delusion. Because if that was the case, I share it with quite a few other players. Some new, and some long time veterans of this game. That's quite a strange case, don't you think? I wonder how that makes a false allegation. When many have claimed to have first hand experience with encountering hackers in this game.
Also in case you missed it, I revealed the truth about having witnessed what these programs have the ability in doing. So there's also that knowledge in my pocket.
Lastly, when you invest money in or outright purchase a product. The customer has every right to be critical over the manufacturer for providing something with a major core problem. Otherwise many companies would not allow suggestions to be given to them in the first place. They wouldn't have a need for the SPCT, or employees to add to its perfection. That reveals a lack of care for the quality in which you receive things. If you did expect more from such things, I can tell you would be a bit happier and confident for speaking your mind.
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1 hour ago, Glaciers said:still confusing "the problem" with "your opinion"
i do not dismiss every thread that discusses the major issues with the game, i dismiss those that are unconstructive - from what ive seen on the forums, many other users do the same
A major issue with the game are the people cheating, and being left unchecked by the staff who assumed responsibility to act as the authority to punish them.
So at this point you're really just again, indirectly aiding the people who cheat in this game by doing what you are doing. If you truly didn't care for these threads, you'd leave them be and let them run their course. If Little Orbit wanted to acknowledge them, they will.
But you're acting as an obstacle, because? And please say something other than "lacking constructive input". Because if that's you're only response then you are using ad nauseam to respond to what you have dismissed as such. Which actually is the only thing that lacks any form of constructive input towards applying pressure towards a solution.
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48 minutes ago, Fortune Runner said:importance that you exist yes , but that does not man its ok to be annoying to others over things
I don't know what you have been watching , but we have been watching Little Orbit talk to other companies as well as add two different anti cheats to stop cheating so that clearly is something being done.
Once again Little Orbit has done many things working on APB , some were good , some were not.
Nothing was dismissed on the "problems" with APB or Little Orbit would not of bought APB for its potential to begin with.
Your very first post claimed it was better under past ownership who messed up APB to this point to begin with.
You failed right there because of it.
You claimed the primary problems are being ignored yet the Engine Upgrade is a necessity for the foundation to address the core problems with APB to begin with.
After the Engine Upgrade , it is scheduled to work on Matchmaking/threat/Phasing so that there can be fair matches and new people play against their skill level more easily across a wider player base due to the Phasing not limiting us to one district.
Sounds nothing like neglect to me.
SPCT has said countless times they are testing the Engine Upgrade.
It will be done when it is done. Saying that you are repeating what others have said in the past does not hinder nor help the testing directly.
if you try to put pressure to get things done as they are being worked on already , then you're just that "annoying egotistical boss" type who instead of helping be more productive , discourages and gets in the way instead.
history has shown any type of person like that has not ever had good productivity but instead hindered it. Those types of bosses get replaced for a reason.
it has been your "opinion" this whole time.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/opinion
opinion
noun
opin·ion | \ ə-ˈpin-yən
\
Definition of opinion
1a : a view, judgment, or appraisal formed in the mind about a particular matter We asked them for their opinions about the new stadium.
b : approval, esteem I have no great opinion of his work.
2a : belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge a person of rigid opinions
b : a generally held view
Note that the dictionary definition clearly pointed out on 2a"belief stronger than impression and less strong than positive knowledge"
which is in fact what you are doing.
my personal opinion : take a chill pill and quit assuming Little Orbit does nothing when they have openly shown they work their @$$es off.
its the reason why you come off as a bother
A representative has yet to come onto this thread and label me as a bother. That is just you, and if my stance bothers you. Then you clearly are frustrated in the fact that I stand my ground against being "hushed".
I know the definition of the word. But do you know that if a group of people share the same concerns, that must actually mean that those concerns are valid.
You're offended that I brought up Gamersfirst, well it's a fact that they were the predecessors to Little Orbit. Attempting to shame me for bringing up a fact, is the equivalent of picking up a pitchfork because you hate that your neighbor reads a book and has a better memory of you.
If you've ever worked in a field where you have to deal with customers on a regular basis, then you would know that their time and money takes importance. Their concerns, take importance. So simply dismissing the fact that I have given money to this product, is dismissing a majorly important fact to the reasons as to why I have a right to be critical in the way that I am being now. That risks a companies reputation, and then in turn becomes a problem for their logistical development.
What is shocking, is how the level of hostility seems to increase on the oppositions side to this. I have maintained a fairly even temperament, refrained from personally attacking in a insulting way, and pointed out flaws in what is being done in part of the "We've heard it before" crowd, the "WE KNOW" crowd, and the others who seem to think that adding in software that only provide the legitimate player only a day or two worth of play time, before cheaters start popping back up like cockroaches again.
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6 minutes ago, Glaciers said:"threads like these"
you mean aggressive, insulting threads filled with misinformation where the op immediately turns to insulting other forum users?
what a shock that like begets like - if you want to complain about enabling negativity take a long hard look in the mirror, no one is going to afford you the courtesy you mistakenly think you deserve for an uninformed rant
no one is dismissing the problems, you're letting your ego confuse "the problems" with "your opinion" and given the rest of your posts in this thread im inclined to believe its intentional
you set the tone for the entire thread with your first post, it should come as no surprise that no one wants to put up with your attitude
again you're confusing "the problems" with "your opinion" - stating that orbit is in fact working on the cheating issue already is not enabling cheaters, stating that unnecessarily inflammatory posts arent needed is not enabling cheaters, and stating that the way you present your opinion is not constructive is not enabling cheaters
accusing everyone who disagrees with you of intentionally supporting cheaters is incredibly unconstructive, good job with the cognitive dissonance
no one has said "just let little orbit work slow", because little orbit is not intentionally working slow, because little orbit is aware that every second they delay working on issues is more money spent on apb for no return
i'd wager at this point most people don't believe the eu is going to be a magical fix because it isnt going to be, its a foundation not a roof
but we've been told by 2 separate companies that the engine upgrade is necessary to further progress the game, we've been told by 2 separate companies why the engine upgrade is necessary to further progress the game, and at this point its clear (unless you refuse to believe the only official sources of information) that completing the engine upgrade will allow for the most positive results in the future
Again, completely dismissive of the overall point of the thread, and the problem at hand.
There is no confusion between the two, I can assure you that. The aggression that I have towards the neglect is well founded. The longer I wait for this upgrade, the more time and money is lost from my pocket because I am forced to go elsewhere with my business. And Little Orbit has not made any announcement that they plan on compensating customers for lost time.
You seem to confuse the fact that your "Yeah yeah, we've heard it before" response is something that helpful. When really it just blocks progress or any unified front that would actually put pressure on Little Orbit to have an active solution until the engine upgrade comes. I didn't say that you were intentionally doing anything besides expressing your beaten down attitude regarding the subject, which in turn is sending out the message that cheating is okay. I probably should've made that more plain for you to understand better. It's a cause and effect., that sends the message out that you don't care about people cheating.
If you're sick of these threads, and don't wish to add anything to them. Don't post, that's your choice here.
If this was just my personal opinion, you wouldn't be frustrated with how many threads keep popping up from people who share that same opinion. That in itself is evidence that there is a problem that should be addressed.
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1 hour ago, _chain said:The ''git gud'' can be interpreted in many ways. Mostly it's just becoming adaptable and finding fun in what you're currently doing what prevents bitching.
Or, you know, maybe you have to find something else to do, a breath of fresh air, a change of pace. This case just means the game is simply annoying, just play another one for a few days before coming back. Moving on can be a solid option too, but maybe too straight forward for some people.
Yes and lose a few days of premium.
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50 minutes ago, Glaciers said:“if you aren’t with me you’re against me” is an inherently flawed argument fyi
when was the last time someone standing over your shoulder repeating “hurry up” made you work faster?
thats the point people are trying to make - little orbit is aware of the major issues, little orbit has stated that they are aware of the major issues, and little orbit is working on the major issues
repeating the major issues ad nauseam at this point achieves nothing
No, what achieves nothing are adverse reaction to threads like these.
Essentially dismissing the problem, treating others poorly, and enabling the problem to get worse in the long run.
As much as you wish to have cognitive dissonance to the idea, you're sending a message out as a player that cheating is okay. That you're complicit in the fact that things are getting worse. It's not a flawed argument to point out that observation. Especially when it's plainly displayed, which is why it's easy to assume an alternative agenda besides just "We're on Little Orbits side, let them work slow".
The slower they are, the more time people who cheat have to ruining this game. The more players who display adversity to these posts, from being tired of reading them or by having alternative motives. Makes the voice of the concerned customer that much more diminished. So even if you yourself are not cheating, you're contributing to the problem.
What prevents solutions, are your actions here. Everyone is betting on the EU as if that's going to solve everything. It's a pretty grotesque and concerning display of blind faith regarding the matter.
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So I had been playing for 4 hours, 7am to 11am. I had no disconnects until five minutes after 11am, then the lag hit as hard as when the game was being under a DDOS attack. Several players complained about lag in district chat, and I wouldn't be surprised if they also disconnected from the game. Yesterday the same things happened, and prior to this announcement it was just as bad.
Someone really hates Little Orbit as much as they hated Gamersfirst.
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15 minutes ago, neophobia said:try exercises to use the search function of the forums - this post, no matter how much you like to think it does, brings nothing new to the table and we already had enough "letters" that even santa became jealous
plus, i'm more than positive they are aware of their playerbase, since they do, in fact, own the game. but obviously some guy who randomly pops in knows better
also, everyone must be hacking bc i die a lot /thread
Though it brings nothing new to the table, your actions really don't help matters. At all.
In fact it perpetuates the idea that people are crazy for calling out the bull, and wanting change to happen. You're in other words saying that cheating in this game is okay. The fact that you are even posting this is a literal testament that you don't care that cheaters are ruining this game.
So you're simply a part of the problem.
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15 hours ago, Nanometic said:FFBans was a cesspool of toxicity.
Also, this community technically has no right to (almost) anything here, LO could've just shut APB down and still can, obviously they wont, just making a point. Legally, the APB community doesn't have the right. Morally, that's up for debate.
It's not like we're getting their actual identities.
Though at the same time it's not hard to figure out who may actually be suspicious of cheating either with the population being as low as it has been on the servers. You only have two district options at this point besides social, a active solo GM could moderate this game with ease.
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So far I have read the following things:
1. OP wants LO to avoid predatory practices that Gamersfirst had implemented a long time ago with the Joker Boxes.
2. People are arguing that paying a dollar for a Box isn't that bad, and there is no benefit to them.
3. People are making the OP sound more complicated than it is.
I think it's noble to want to see Little Orbit do things differently, and remind players that F2P doesn't mean you have to buy joker boxes. But the fact that they've released new ones says that they're not actually considering doing so.
And one cannot simply just pay for a one dollars worth of G1C, you actually have to pay a larger amount for buying the minimal amount of joker boxes. Even if you wanted a Box worth one dollar, you're going to be possibly paying four dollars or more. Which is a exploit in the system for Little Orbit to shamelessly make a profit one way or another.
Psychological aspects of this being that they make a new shiny legendary weapon. That weapon dropping is set to a certain percentile, so you could get it in one box or in a hundred dollars worth of boxes, or up to two hundred dollars worth of boxes. I have some friends that couldn't get any legendary weapons that they wanted, no matter how much money they spent. Which made them cautious of actually buying anymore in the future, resulting in a incrementally diminished investment into the development in this game.
Thank you for the thoughts ScLines.
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2 minutes ago, Keshi said:a DDoS is happening?
Literally got kicked a few times after getting massive lag. I wasn't the only one according to district chat. Whatever is happening it feels like a tug of war between this new "countermeasure" and the people DDOSing the server.
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2 minutes ago, Zolerox said:Didn't answer my question.
It hasn't started yet, and with Jericho currently being DDOS'd again after "New countermeasures have been put in place", it might not happen.
An open letter to MattScott and Lixil
in General Discussion Archive
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You should probably respond to things that are directed at you, rather than responding for other people.
GamersFirst also posted "Evidence" of their work in the past as well. To which that they took too much time on, and eventually proved that they were incapable of delivering what they promised.
You don't need to speak English specifically to have a understanding on words in general. Needing a dictionary in this conversation shows that you're requiring an aid to keep up. Probably best you give up.
I've accepted responsibility for my actions this whole time. The fact that you are so impassioned to the point where you're blindly missing things in my posts really isn't my fault, or responsibility to help you see at this point. That's the flaw of cherry picking things, you leave out important details. I will not accept being made out to be something, that I am not.
If you feel accused of something that you are innocent of, why are you so angry?
If you think that I am plainly a liar, why do you feel the need to disprove what I am saying? Don't you think anyone who reads this thread is unable to determine whatever conclusion that they want?
At this point you're literally rambling whatever immediately comes to a split seconds worth of thought. Take your time, read, and respond articulately. Staying firm in ones stance is a reflection of integrity, of which I will not degrade to suit your perceptions of me. Sorry not sorry.
Lastly, explaining that being flimsy in your stance when it comes to overall issues, isn't a good foundation to say "OOOOooo See you support cheaters too!".
Merged.
Actually that is the point of that statement. Saying that you're aware of a ripple effect, and then disregarding it is reckless. No goal posts shifted. This isn't a game, this is a conversation about a game.
In the general everyday use of the word slur, it is directly linked with hate speech. A common mistake, but that doesn't really change that I was simply pointing out that there should be no reason for you to be so impassioned at this point, unless you had atlernative motives beyond simply disliking a post.
Being critical over a product in general requires a black and white viewpoint. Otherwise you'll never receive a refund or have the ability to open up negotiations for compensation for your trouble to begin with. You should try it, otherwise you're going to end up with less than quality products polluting your home.