Golds kicks new players from mission

[PonuryZniwiarz 64]

Matchmaking is unfair, but even if u get normal match golds are forcing new players to kill them, and then they kick from mission it happens all the time so mayby lets make kick vote, or ban for few days for unfair kicks its not normal and this tryhards do in all missions its pathetic.  

[Ardita 213]

2 hours ago, PonuryZniwiarz said:

Matchmaking is unfair, but even if u get normal match golds are forcing new players to kill them, and then they kick from mission it happens all the time so mayby lets make kick vote, or ban for few days for unfair kicks its not normal and this tryhards do in all missions its pathetic.  

When I am grouped up with some and escalation is done with both teams, the newcomers instant request teamleadership if the team leader is silver/bronze and newcomers to the mission are golds. I don't get why.

[EC2Jonathan 21]

MCD DISAPPROVES OF THIS POST.

10 minutes ago, Ardita said:

When I am grouped up with some and escalation is done with both teams, the newcomers instant request teamleadership if the team leader is silver/bronze and newcomers to the mission are golds. I don't get why.

ardita, i love your recent youtube videos keep making them, i wish i could comment. also, the reason golds request team leadership after getting escalated in is because they are trying to prevent further escalation. MCD is waiting for you on NA.

[Ardita 213]

1 hour ago, EC2Jonathan said:

ardita, i love your recent youtube videos keep making them, i wish i could comment.

Thankies very much, appreciate that ^.^

1 hour ago, EC2Jonathan said:

also, the reason golds request team leadership after getting escalated in is because they are trying to prevent further escalation.

I mean those I play with escalate when necessary. I don't see a gold guy should know better when to request further backup or escalation. Not saying that you think so either, but that's pretty lame imo.

 

1 hour ago, EC2Jonathan said:

MCD is waiting for you on NA.

Do something with the latency and we'll see you soon at Burger King ^_^

[MACKxBOLAN 479]

5 hours ago, PonuryZniwiarz said:

golds are forcing new players to kill them,

Not always golds, however it's common with a certain clan or two, they want u out so they  can get back up from one of their mates who will be waiting k, 

 Common method is to Car Ride and make u drive, then jump off in front of you to cause a tk. 

If Lo could remove the demerit from tk's caused by running over with a car, it may help. 

 You're right there should be a ban or cheat points whatever given to a player that does that, 

that said, you would have to film or record it, then send the recording via CS Ticket.

Then in the end if they decided to punish them, it would be a hand slap. 

 My advice is watch out for them doing that, if they shoot ya few times, dont shoot back, 

if they car ride, dont drive em, and when you see em trying, probly best to just reboot/relog

[Yapopal 204]

Why combine gold and bronze players in one mission at all? It's like playing with kittens. It's annoying when escalation is triggered automatically. Especially at the end of a mission. The reinforcements don't even have time to reach the battlefield. The commander has to answer angry messages after the mission about not calling for reinforcements.

[Ardita 213]

1 hour ago, Yapopal said:

The commander has to answer angry messages after the mission about not calling for reinforcements.

You're playing APB Reloaded ........  

[MACKxBOLAN 479]

4 hours ago, Yapopal said:

Why combine gold and bronze players in one mission at all

Because Matt and LO have catered to golds for 7 years since desegregation. 

Golds sat in this forum 7yrs ago and cried daily to be let into bronze district. 

They claim such low pop in Silver/Gold district made their game unplayable.

So LO decided to desegregate claiming low pop.

Effectively ruining the game for anyone not gold or not using hax, special cofigs, 

exploiting off secondary accounts, ect. 

So your average joe could no longer compete. 

I mean they put T-ranks vs Gold Max ranks.

Then claim its again the low pop that mm puts these together. 

When they wouldn't have low pop if they had an effective AC, if they would put in 

more content, contacts, new vehicles ect. 

The pop increased slightly per district after desegregation but its all one sided wins for the golds. 

which stomping on bronze and low silvers keeps the gold Gold. 

 Now I dont wanna turn this into a Rant, But I'm here and feel LO is due a Rant. 

The path to gold is ez for those cheating, The golds try to make the threat level a 

Social Class, and berate anyone not holding gold, as if it is the medium average, and any fool 

should be able to gain gold within two missions and go 50-2.

Secondly I wouldn't be caught dead with Your new Gold 10 title, why i want to identify 

with the bullys and try hards and hackers?

 Why Golds can't accept they cried their way into bronze district n scream foul when they see a bronze or silver. 

Then they got this new leader board, another catering to golds act. 

Then they have the audacity to want paid premium that doesn't include Gold for the duration of the premium. 

@MattScott I won't give you a penny till I am gold and the path to gold is listed and described in a forever pinned post. 

 I feel that 90% of golds got to gold by cheating, that being exploiting with multiple accounts or friends willing to throw, 

or straight hacking with aimers, getting to the astronomical score of 50--2, you don't ban anyone now, and ya dont tell anyone 

if they got hack points so how are we legits and or the hacker to know they been Jailed or Shadow Banned just because they waiting 

on a mission for too long, when that could just be mm.  You have no way of signaling the legit that it is safe to k up. 

 You don't even bring me numbers without names as to how many players detected cheating/punishment issued. 

The first thing of penalty should be taking their gold!

[EC2Jonathan 21]

6 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

Because Matt and LO have catered to golds for 7 years since desegregation. 

Golds sat in this forum 7yrs ago and cried daily to be let into bronze district. 

They claim such low pop in Silver/Gold district made their game unplayable.

So LO decided to desegregate claiming low pop.

Effectively ruining the game for anyone not gold or not using hax, special cofigs, 

exploiting off secondary accounts, ect. 

So your average joe could no longer compete. 

I mean they put T-ranks vs Gold Max ranks.

Then claim its again the low pop that mm puts these together. 

When they wouldn't have low pop if they had an effective AC, if they would put in 

more content, contacts, new vehicles ect. 

The pop increased slightly per district after desegregation but its all one sided wins for the golds. 

which stomping on bronze and low silvers keeps the gold Gold. 

 Now I dont wanna turn this into a Rant, But I'm here and feel LO is due a Rant. 

The path to gold is ez for those cheating, The golds try to make the threat level a 

Social Class, and berate anyone not holding gold, as if it is the medium average, and any fool 

should be able to gain gold within two missions and go 50-2.

Secondly I wouldn't be caught dead with Your new Gold 10 title, why i want to identify 

with the bullys and try hards and hackers?

 Why Golds can't accept they cried their way into bronze district n scream foul when they see a bronze or silver. 

Then they got this new leader board, another catering to golds act. 

Then they have the audacity to want paid premium that doesn't include Gold for the duration of the premium. 

@MattScott I won't give you a penny till I am gold and the path to gold is listed and described in a forever pinned post. 

 I feel that 90% of golds got to gold by cheating, that being exploiting with multiple accounts or friends willing to throw, 

or straight hacking with aimers, getting to the astronomical score of 50--2, you don't ban anyone now, and ya dont tell anyone 

if they got hack points so how are we legits and or the hacker to know they been Jailed or Shadow Banned just because they waiting 

on a mission for too long, when that could just be mm.  You have no way of signaling the legit that it is safe to k up. 

 You don't even bring me numbers without names as to how many players detected cheating/punishment issued. 

The first thing of penalty should be taking their gold!

MCD CLAN IS TAKING A NEUTRAL STANCE ON THIS POST.

the only thing I have to add onto this post, is that gold should be harder to get than it is. I believe(highest ranked player solarsystemwide) that most of the current golds do not deserve their threat level. This is not a bad thing, however, as it stands in NA, there are only a handful of true gold10s(mostly MCD members) who deserve their threat. This leaves a large portion of the playerbase being goldplated. 

[MACKxBOLAN 479]

16 hours ago, EC2Jonathan said:

is that gold should be harder to get than it is.

Without disagreeing on the hardness of getting gold, Silver should be harder to get for the bronze.

The trip thru silver to gold should be comparable to the trip from thru bronze to silver. 

I can be bronze and do one obj or make one or two kills and be silver, and still lose. 

I can be silver an win and get a few kills and no gold. 

 The Sweat/Hacker comes in, new name in district, and low rank, and goes gold in two missions.

I think the algorithm penalizes older accounts for every L they ever took.

It doesn't consider all the actions of the player as team contributing, unless you're talking kills. 

For instance; I can cut off the opp, hold them off a minute, and they kill me but I've delayed them 

while my team rolls to the next point. I can use tagger and patrol perimeter, tag em alert the team to 

the enemy presence and direction, be killed but maybe only get an assist, otherwise zero credit for my 

contribution.  You put me in a 2v2 with a gold tm, im gonna dethreat because its the two top scores, n if 

there are only two of us, then im gonna dethreat. 

They come in and hack or exploit to gold in 2 missions, maybe get caught and or punished but they keep the gold. 

Now I know Matt isn't going to just Give me gold, or make a 'Gold Premium' 

I've asked numerous times for LO to spell out and post the perimeters of upthreat and dethreat, They wont. 

The only thing LO has done regarding threat levels is desegregate and screw all the legits out of earning gold.

They have never attempted to rewrite it, alter it ect. 

 Simple I'm not going to pay him as long as not being gold is so frowned upon by the sweats, 

and a clear written path to gold is written out, and or the threat system is revised.

[Victoria97 42]

On 8/25/2025 at 6:28 PM, PonuryZniwiarz said:

Matchmaking is unfair, but even if u get normal match golds are forcing new players to kill them, and then they kick from mission it happens all the time so mayby lets make kick vote, or ban for few days for unfair kicks its not normal and this tryhards do in all missions its pathetic.  

MM has always been unfair since dawn of time of APB. 
The problem that put a final nail into the coffin of APB imo was the desegregation. It allowed all config users with no recoil, triggerbotters, aimbotters and hackers into the realm of bronze districts where there were a lot of detreated golds, thats true, but there were also a lot of legit trainee, bronzies and legit silvers. 
Its like you open a bank vault for everybody to enter freely. 

LO succumbed to pressure of gold veterans who were tainted with a lot of closet fake golds amongst themselves who got bored fighting each others with their bought premium hacking programs and they were missing the "action" of stomping legit newcomers, bronzies and silvies. So they demanded unification of all districts and removal of threats limitations. 

The moment LO did it, a few months afterwards population of entire APB (i am talking for Citadel) dropped visually from around 1000 active players to 800 and soon afterwards we ended on nowadays 300 in a good day.
With that said, it is what it is. 
Current MM cannot be fixed, you can't return segregation because there are simply no players to even populate 1 full district in a working day. 

Escalations are tricky because most of the time you will get a wanderer trainee "backup" who doesn't even know where to go in the map to reach an objective. Or enemy will get pregrouped 3 max gold ranks while you get an afk silvers. 

 

Being gold is overrated in 2025 because one joining to FC you can clearly see people use esp, triggerbot, they snap non stop, there is almost not a single 45 user without a macro who never misses a single shot from 5 shots, meaning usage of triggerbot in a combination and our GFAC is "still learning" like a baby boy while this scum walks around freely molesting legit players day and night.
  

22 hours ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

Now I know Matt isn't going to just Give me gold, or make a 'Gold Premium' 

Idk why you even tend to be a gold, unless its some sort of your private challenge, but I myself am gold, always was without ever cheating but simply using ursus and duck and it keeps me gold for years.
And I can tell you that I don't feel anything special because of it. I barely even play missions anymore because 9 out of 10 times I am grouped with complete mentally challenged team mates, regardless of their threats while enemy in 10/10 cases gets in pregrouped on discord, trying hard about every kill to fap their ego tripping daily dose. 

 

And final thing, most of silvers will forever remain silvers, same goes for bronzies, because they don't bother with basic tps shooter knowledge. I tried to teach one bronze who was crying in district chat how everybody are cheaters, I invited him to the group to see his gameplay. Dude... the guy rushed enemy with a shotgun rs3 cj3 against ntec and ursus users in an open field. Like dude... no they are not cheaters, you are just plain dumb.

I have watched silvers never bother taking basic covers, never corner camping like 100% of golds do, who listen to your foot steps and simply wait for you to come behind a corner and they erase you with ease.
I have watched silvers never bother choosing appropriate counter weapons during their respawn. If you see enemies having ntec or ursus, why God why, do you continue to use cqc weapons in financial where 90% of cases are fights in an open ground!?
I have watched silvers never baiting cops by completely shifting their way of decision making during basic movement. If you see cop standing behind some corner camping, why do you insist showing yourself up to him and then proceeding to rush him face2face instead sprinting around the building and trying to flank the cop??
90% of silvers don't even comprehend a term flanking. 
Nobody bothers to be unpredictable and maybe sometimes sprint 400m further if that will make you come from their back and eliminate them.

I have seen basic lacking of intelligence with all silvers who will reply you "its just a game not a competition, I won't bother tryharding" but then after the match when they die 50 times and get 2 kills, you will see same people ranting and raging in public chat how everybody in enemy site are cheaters. He won't mention that he was practically just spawning, rushing, dying, spawning, rushing, dying. 

I have watched silvers NEVER EVER taking high grounds when we defend the position. Literally 100% of silvers know 100% of financial map, any map, but literally maybe 10% of them actually use map advantages. The term high ground is completely unknown to silver population. And guess what, every real gold first thing they will do is take sniper or ursus and go camp to the highest ground they can find around the objective and they will remain there killing you fifty times over and over until someone from silvers will even decide to get them and then try to get them and guess what, by the time they will finally reach that high ground position, real gold will already be on a roof of an opposite building killing you again, because real gold makes 2 kills tops with sniper and then he switches his position entirely from one building to the next if necessary. Thats real gold player behavior. Such silver will hackusate then that gold.

With that said 99% of silvers deserve to be silvers because they are mentally silvers. They will never change. They will always blame their personal failures at enemy team calling them out as cheaters and hackers. They never bother to learn or improve, they never tryhard. 

 

I hate such excessive trying hard as well, but back in a day if you played against Bitfenix or WASP, such gameplay was implied. If you were not ready for extreme sweating, you might as well just rq the mission and wait for another one. And many golds behave like this, still today. 

 

And then we all wonder why silvers got low chances of winning against legit golds.

Being gold is for a reason a threat only veterans have.

I am of course talking about legit golds.

Hacking cheating blatant golds are no humans but irrelevant filth living with their parents in their late 30's with no jobs or life. Their greatest life achievement is hacking in a 2010 old dead game with population of 200 people.

Edited August 28 by Victoria97

[Jama 11]

Most golds get gold because they're playing in a group with competent teammates (voice chat), this typically gets their groupmates gold as well.

When those players go solo, they tend to lose more often due to a reliance on reliable teammates, while silvers that play solo all the time can manage better with unreliable teammates.

 

My point is that there are silvers that can perform better than golds, so the threat system is flawed to some extent.

I think threat should solely be based on player performance with no influence from match outcome.

SweatyMcBadBreath™ going with 28-2 against three silvers and but losing because of his two bronze teammates, should still go miles up in threat.

 

Now that you've read all that, none of it matters because there's not enough players for any change to the current system to make any meaningful impact.