Weaboos 99 Posted May 22 4 minutes ago, Westford said: Haha, I remember when G1 would regularly release a new Weapon on ARMAS marketplace that would dominate and was OP as hell. Everyone flocked to the Marketplace to grab this OP weapon. Many complained on the forums.... for months. And then.... after maybe 4-6 months, after many were sold, they would nerf that weapon into oblivion. Haha, I thought to myself.. what a SCAM.. Rinse & Repeat. Lol They made some good coin back then, I think it took them 9 months to finally fix nano 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 186 Posted May 22 1 minute ago, Weaboos said: I think it took them 9 months to finally fix nano Haha... There were trying to cash in I'm guessing. You remember the responses of those players that bought these OP weapons only to be nerfed to uselessness. They WERE pissed. Haha 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weaboos 99 Posted May 22 1 minute ago, Westford said: Haha... There were trying to cash in I'm guessing. You remember the responses of those players that bought these OP weapons only to be nerfed to uselessness. They WERE pissed. Haha I remember people defending every single one of those weapons, Nano, Yukon, Trouble Maker - you name it xD 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 186 Posted May 22 4 minutes ago, Weaboos said: I remember people defending every single one of those weapons, Nano, Yukon, Trouble Maker - you name it xD I mean, 1500-2000 G1C was nothing to sneeze about. They sure as hell didn't want there weapon to hit the G1 "chopping block". But eventually, they all did. Rinse & Repeat my friend... Rinse & Repeat. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weaboos 99 Posted May 22 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Westford said: I mean, 1500-2000 G1C was nothing to sneeze about. They sure as hell didn't want there weapon to hit the G1 "chopping block". But eventually, they all did. Rinse & Repeat my friend... Rinse & Repeat. Yeah it's nothing to joke about, even worse for the legendary weapons where you couldn't directly buy them at the time and had to gamble them from scam boxes. Some people had to spend hundreds to get those, really scummy tactics by G1. But people couldn't have been so naive not to expect a weapon that's clearly too strong and everybody is abusing not to get fixed. Heh I remember dopefish doing nano only missions back when you could snipe people from 70 m with it and outgun primary weapons in cqc Edited May 22 by Weaboos 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 186 Posted May 22 32 minutes ago, Weaboos said: Yeah it's nothing to joke about, even worse for the legendary weapons where you couldn't directly buy them at the time and had to gamble them from scam boxes. Some people had to spend hundreds to get those, really scummy tactics by G1. But people couldn't have been so naive not to expect a weapon that's clearly too strong and everybody is abusing not to get fixed. Heh I remember dopefish doing nano only missions back when you could snipe people from 70 m with it and outgun primary weapons in cqc I remember when Dopefish was banned... although reversed after some time. A Russian Agent they said. Hell, I believed it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 173 Posted May 24 (edited) On 5/23/2025 at 12:52 AM, Westford said: I remember when Dopefish was banned... although reversed after some time. A Russian Agent they said. Hell, I believed it. Was that reversed based on loud disagreement from the community or they actually found that false ban? Not saying that I ever said Dope was cheating, but I mean I never saw them change their opinion when they banned people back then, now is a different story. -Ban hammer slamming hard Edited May 24 by Ardita Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 186 Posted May 24 4 hours ago, Ardita said: Was that reversed based on loud disagreement from the community or they actually found that false ban? Not saying that I ever said Dope was cheating, but I mean I never saw them change their opinion when they banned people back then, now is a different story. -Ban hammer slamming hard Not sure of all the details, or what led to the ban reversal. Yes, the community for the most part were supportive of Dope's claim that his account was hacked. And you are right, ban reversals were very rare under G1. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 173 Posted May 24 2 hours ago, Westford said: Not sure of all the details, or what led to the ban reversal. Yes, the community for the most part were supportive of Dope's claim that his account was hacked. And you are right, ban reversals were very rare under G1. You could yell and shoutout for answers but GamersFirst kept every communication closed. Banned, dead, bye Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weaboos 99 Posted May 24 (edited) On 5/23/2025 at 1:52 AM, Westford said: I remember when Dopefish was banned... although reversed after some time. A Russian Agent they said. Hell, I believed it. Wasn't it DogFish from BitFenix aka BitPenis and not DopeFish tho? Edited May 24 by Weaboos 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 173 Posted May 25 17 hours ago, Weaboos said: Wasn't it DogFish from BitFenix aka BitPenis and not DopeFish tho? Nevermind who it was, it wasn't "fishy" enough to stay banned ^_^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PonuryZniwiarz 60 Posted May 25 If 90% players use one gun its means that we have some problem with it. 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 173 Posted May 26 13 hours ago, PonuryZniwiarz said: If 90% players use one gun its means that we have some problem with it. Exactly. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weaboos 99 Posted May 26 On 5/25/2025 at 2:32 PM, Ardita said: Nevermind who it was, it wasn't "fishy" enough to stay banned ^_^ It does matter because they were two different people. One was a famous streamer and the other was from a clan with shady reputation and alleged connections to GMs at the time of old G1. Like the "Russian agent" is such a bs excuse to get unbanned lmao. I remember even cheaters like the legendary MrEpicGoat was hackusating that clan but I'm guessing most of the current posters are too young to know any of those names... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 173 Posted May 26 3 hours ago, Weaboos said: It does matter because they were two different people. One was a famous streamer and the other was from a clan with shady reputation and alleged connections to GMs at the time of old G1. Like the "Russian agent" is such a bs excuse to get unbanned lmao. I remember even cheaters like the legendary MrEpicGoat was hackusating that clan but I'm guessing most of the current posters are too young to know any of those names... You totally missed the joke, and it still didn’t really matter who it was as we talked about G1 decisions were non transparent back then. EpicGoat was probably biggest loser in my honest opinion with streaming his cheating. You’re allowed to guess that, I’ve been around long enough to know these too, but not really the point Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Weaboos 99 Posted May 26 2 hours ago, Ardita said: You totally missed the joke, and it still didn’t really matter who it was as we talked about G1 decisions were non transparent back then. EpicGoat was probably biggest loser in my honest opinion with streaming his cheating. You’re allowed to guess that, I’ve been around long enough to know these too, but not really the point Sarcasm can be difficult to pick up over the internet I don't disagree about MrEpicGoat but blatant hackers like him are a lot less problematic then hardcore closet cheaters 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Westford 186 Posted May 28 (edited) On 5/24/2025 at 2:22 PM, Weaboos said: Wasn't it DogFish from BitFenix aka BitPenis and not DopeFish tho? I may be wrong with the name, it was so long ago. But yeah, I also heard that this individual had claimed that their account was hacked by someone in russia, and that that person was also in tight with a few GM's. At that time, it was all about "who you know" when it came to APB justice. Fortunately times have changed, when umm, unban waves are a thing, and cheaters can play with more or less impunity. I am still somewhat optimistic that in the near future, fair gameplay will be a priority, Even if that means LO releasing their Premium Tier Aimbot/Wall hack for unrestricted use in game. Then, everyone will be playing on a level playing field. I can't wait. Edited May 28 by Westford Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ardita 173 Posted May 28 On 5/27/2025 at 12:03 AM, Weaboos said: Sarcasm can be difficult to pick up over the internet I don't disagree about MrEpicGoat but blatant hackers like him are a lot less problematic then hardcore closet cheaters Absolutely agree on this 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DreAmGirL 25 Posted Friday at 11:49 AM (edited) On 5/28/2025 at 2:02 PM, Westford said: I may be wrong with the name, it was so long ago. But yeah, I also heard that this individual had claimed that their account was hacked by someone in russia, and that that person was also in tight with a few GM's. At that time, it was all about "who you know" when it came to APB justice. Fortunately times have changed, when umm, unban waves are a thing, and cheaters can play with more or less impunity. I am still somewhat optimistic that in the near future, fair gameplay will be a priority, Even if that means LO releasing their Premium Tier Aimbot/Wall hack for unrestricted use in game. Then, everyone will be playing on a level playing field. I can't wait. Yeah, it was Dogfish - a guy who initially made a rage cheat account to discredit Dopefish. But after some time, when he realized he still wasn't banned, he went full closet mode, pretending to be the best APB player. There are still videos of him aimbotting on YouTube. Eventually, he was finally banned — but yeah, apparently the Russian KGB agent hacked him. I even remember i was reporting him when he was like rank 10 and hardcore spinbotting Good old days of APB and its drama Edited Friday at 11:55 AM by DreAmGirL Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sweetLemonade 125 Posted Saturday at 11:11 PM (edited) This entire thread can be summed up with this image: The game shouldn't be balanced according to the wishes of users who do not have the willpower to learn the nits & grits of it, nor understand basic concepts of what makes up a shooter game. Edited Saturday at 11:13 PM by sweetLemonade Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Victoria97 17 Posted yesterday at 01:36 PM (edited) If you want part of history lore and lesson from APB here you go. Everybody who was here since 2013 or earlier knows all about apb drama of "golden" days which were as shitty as current days but with lot less people around thus a lot less drama around. Nowadays nobody knows nobody in APB...back in the days everybody knew everybody. There were entire subcultures of people hanging around each other just like irl. You had groups of furries...thongs naked female chars with pasted tails tattoos on their backs..some pretty dope made furry outfits to those who jut paste 1 decal on their butt...you had groups of neo nazis with swastikas and skinheads ussr communist customizations...you had femboys, goths, trolls with agenda to create ugliest char possible in apb...going all short fat with green chest hairs and bald disformed heads... You had awesome designers groups, people with incredible talent for doing outfits and costumes...i remember guy Spiderman who made most realistic spiderman i ever seen in APB... he made chars from movies he made Gollum so realistic you would be puzzled to extent of his talent...there were many such people. Guy named Atour had similar designer talent, his outfits were insanely detailed and nicely made. Guy Luddeboi and his Jack sparrow outfit one of best i ever seen. There were symbol designers like Zlayer...by far in my humble opinion the greatest symbol and outfit designer that ever lived inside APB. Zlayer's art and his talent was masterpiece. You had roleplayers who went creating their local sheriff little villages insignias roleplaying as cops...would follow you around on the map grief the missions because you broke the window of a shop while waiting for a mission. You had roleplayers who went criminal all they way, they would literally be as much evil and f*d up as possible towards you...they would hunt their own crimes while ram raiding and steal their shit, they would purposely scam you and steal your legendaries with set up middle men who were actually their buddies...the entire era of middle men was chaotic and frustrating... trusting someone in apb world was insanity...it would take physical years to get someone's trust there or to find friend you could mutually work with to benefit in any sort of way. You had bounty hunters...whose only fun was to sign to mission districts and keep checking who has 5 stars while doing a mission and they would hunt them which would usually result in you losing the mission because entire district would hunt you while you playing your final stage and every second counts. That was the APB we all knew and had love-hate relationship with. Everybody remembers Dopefish and Dogfish...and entire bitfenix closet clan by Shini. We also remember entire WASP clan from Rooq and beyond. Literally 90% of all of them had advantages starting from basic things like internet speed towards having pretty expensive PC's at that point. I remember from 2013 year they already had FPS's like 300-400... i had FPS in active mission gameplay if i was lucky i had 35-40 FPS...at a good day it was 40. I used to play with internet speed of 3-6mbps with my graphic card ati radeon 3690 from 2008..and i had that graphic card until like 2015 when all those "dopes" and "fishes" roamed the APB world with their hundreds mbps speeds and fancy rich kids PC's with normal graphic cards. My puny 4GB RAM at that point was crashing pretty much every few hours due to bad APB programmed code that fills RAM as much RAM as you got. Nowadays i got 32GB RAM and i still see APB going 7-8GB's at the time in 2025...its insane. At top of all of that they ALL used configs back when 90% of APB community had no idea what the config even means and how do you "install" it or where do you even get it. They were the "cool kids" and they were all sharing among each others all the programs, all the informations, all the "checked out" programs which gets harder to detect. What we use nowadays as config they used from day 1. Those configs were coming with no recoil, auto aim, options of setting your grenades exploding exactly at which milisecond... thus all the perfect timings of grenades blowing your car up along with your team mates in and on it. It was so over-used that majority of people didnt even drive car anymore towards people or anywhere near it because you knew if you were rushing with your car towards some WASP or bitfenix player it was 10 out of 10 death for you, with their perfect grenade explosion timing. People used to call it "skill" ... yet it was cheating..not hacking...but cheating...just G1 favored their so called ambassador players... famous streamers who were boosting marketing for APB reloaded across the twitch and youtube platforms so they could use config all they wanted, yet if you used overlay crosshair you 'd get banned in no time if you didnt have connection within the G1 staff. It was dual standards from day one...even from Tiggs era...it was exactly known who she favored who she didnt.. you could be literal angel innocent player never did anything wrong towards community...but if you stepped Tiggs's foot...you 'd be banned no questions asked. Same as kids who sucked up her butt and could literally teleport along the game without any repercussions ever and without ever getting banned. At the top of all the cool kids, they also infiltrated G1 with having literally no real lives, hanging in APB 24/7, few got GM's spots, the GM's who were really new and out of the system would inevitably get friends with the cool kids and it meant doing favors. It was corruption. I know..i was the part of the cool kids and within that system. I had no GM's power but i could set up at any point of time that someone who was harassing me gets banned and they really got banned...not permanently but enough to get the picture. Being banned for 30 days in APB's peak meant missing out a whole bunch of gossips and APB life. I am telling as the things were. But all of that was not secret...it was public secret. People like Epicgoat and Film were blatant trolls and they were always blatant hackers...and thats never an issue. You dont bitc*h anything to guy who is literally flying around the map like superman going through walls, killing everybody on his path spinning bot and doing shaw-copter. The issue were always closet hackers and those who were buying premium hacks monthly holding all their stats just one micron under detection with aimbots set to be 24-30% accuracy so that they are never blatant but will always get easier kills and become "respected" veterans players of APB and cheaters who used configs with no recoils claiming how configs are not cheats and they really convinced themselves that they are really not cheaters and that they have no advantage whatsoever compared to vanilla user typical apb player. Yet when you ask them if configs dont give you any advantage why you use them, they usually reply...that its not cheating and that you can use configs yourself as well. Thats core problem of APB..always was always is and will be till end. Finding excuses of all sorts not to play apb without any single outside help. Everybody remember Dogfish's story how some KGB level russians targeted his irrelevant apb account, hacked it, then they turned on all hacks, then streamed it with his name just to present him as cheater lmao...yes that was his actual excuse he said and claimed...only child can come up with such stupid lie....it can be easily seen how he too was a child back then...literal dumb teenager. Such excuses are in level of those cheaters caught during live stream at youtube in all sort of games.. dumb people with dumb excuses...exactly the profile of all online cheaters...their IQ on a level of goldfish. Everybody remember K4SS and all her long distance "boyfriends" and dramas ...all the ARMAS gifting abuse...if you had vagina in APB you could literally just exist never investing 1 cent and you would have everything. People think no girls ever play apb because they would always run into dumb males who couldnt even lie properly, you 'd figure out he is no girl in 2min after he opens his mouth. But back in the day a lot of girls played APB and we had our groups. I hanged out with K4SS and Feline and few others who were daily harassed that they are fake until they didnt start to stream. I dated at least 15 boyfriends which i never met irl aside having cam2cam connections. Some of those guys i am still friends with now have children of their own irl. Its insane how much one game can leave impact at someone's life. People say FFbans were having positive bans...they forget that FFbans didnt ban only by detecting your stats, people ended up on FFbans if you were toxic, insulting, abusing, scamming, if your chat got caught where you were systematically daily abusing someone just to abuse her or him, you 'd end up on ffbans public ban page. I remember guy stealing ffa and few legendaries with his middle man both getting banned and then one of them cried for months in social how he never cheated nor hacked and that he got falsely banned...as if scamming someones legendary isnt good enough reason to get banned. There were people who created nazi swastikas in symbol designers out of "fun" and they would paste it on their shirts again out of "fun"...but they forget that it can happen what will happen..and that is that someone randomly will be fast and swift screenshot them in that moment and simply send it to G1. boom. Instant ban. Yes those people took down shirts maybe 30-40 secs after putting them on, they would delete swastikas from their locker...but screenshot was already done. Those same people claimed how ffbans falsely banned totally ignoring the fact that they wore nazi swastikas on their shirts out of "fun" in middle of day in high peak full social of 150 people. Yes...ffbans was "problem. I see Mitne always excusing FFbans being bad because he ended up on a ffbans page...he forgets that we didnt forget how toxic you were dude. You were bullying insulting players you were griefing you did tones of shit and then you were shocked you got banned. Your public chat was 9 out of 10 times full of hate towards people, i seen you in social this year at random chat..you are still toxic towards people dude. Many did a lot of bad stuff and went unpunished, many got punished while being innocent and worst of all many who were actually bad to the core got away with it by never being banned not even for 7 days nor 30 nor 1 year nor permanently. In my opinion FFbans era was golden era...still best punishment bat for all of us who were teenagers and bratty and immature. We were raisde online instead by parents... my mum was happy when i rather sat at PC than that she worry for me if i go outside into the world. I was as well toxic i admit, i was literally 15 years old and arrogant when i started to play APB. I was bratty i held grudge towards people, i griefed missions of people who griefed me first, but i would dedicate myself to it, i would bully them for at least 3-4 missions straight. We were all kids. Problem is lot of ppl grew up but lot of ppl are still kids in heart nowadays still behaving like they are 12-15 yrs old even tho they are in their late 20s and 30s now. I grew up with APB..as silly as it sounds...i grew up partly inside APB, i learned a lot about people of all cultures all religions...i met all sorts of people from evil scale to angel scale. And i am sure many of us did as well, hence why its so hard to part with this game. Not only that you could have also witnessed the evolution of internet slang from 2013 to now... now everybody is with that stupid bro americanism... bro this bro that... back in a day words were lol, lmao, spastic, autistic, dude..there were people using "cat" lolcat slangs, but for hell sure nobody ever used word "bro" at those days..at least not in every single sentence like now in 2025. I miss gossips and full districts, clan dramas, clan wars, personal wars back when patriot was full to the top along with obeya server. Nostalgia is real. What is also important to mention that vast majority of APB player "elite" were literally blatant hackers testing out their non premium hacking programs or premium bought programs, checking to see how long they can go with it...so that they would reach rank 255 without ever being flagged nor ever being banned. Those same people then simply bought armas name change and changed their names into "famous" elite players. You think we dont know? Or didnt know? We all knew. Some of them are still among us nowadays. It was business as well..you would rank your char from trainee to max rank in 3-4 weeks destroying countless of legit players along your way, scaring them away from apb for good...and then you would simply buy name change..invest that 5-10 dollars worth g1c...and sell account for 400-500 dollars at APB's golden peak. I literally witnessed countless such players not even hiding it back in the day...and i knew few who told me they were doing it like this. It was profitable for them. There are some honorable exceptions who were really badass elite legit players, kids with talent and no life but pretty damn good players but majority was build upon corruption and lie. That is the truth. Edited yesterday at 02:09 PM by Victoria97 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob_Guardian 420 Posted 17 hours ago On 5/22/2025 at 10:37 AM, Weaboos said: I meant they (old G1) nerfed FBW from 5 to 6 shots "bcus OP" and then released a new 5 STK pistol (.45 AP) on Armas to cash in. oh yeah... they kinda did LOL. I was still upset about that. They did that with the Ursus as well. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites