The argument of snipers one shot killing in other games is irrelevant. In regards to your comment about switching to an hvr to counter an hvr is rather stupid. You shouldn't be forced into using an hvr because someone else is using one. Not many people that i've gone against or play with switch to a weapon to mirror another player. Hvr is the only one that really is like that. Even the old ntec (still hate that they changed it) doesn't compare to the hvr. No other sniper has that kind of damage or suppression. The DMR only comes close at 85m out but even then the hvr is just as effective. It needs to be brought inbetween the dmr and the scout. Its stronger than the scout but not stronger than the DMR at long range.