REPOST: additional info about FE from discord (Q&A Repost 2025-06-24)

[CrimsonMask 14]

Some of the info on LOs progress with FE didnt make it from discord into the forums, so reposting a few more relevant messages here, incase there still are some who dont use discord and didnt see.

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MattPScott — 2025-03-09 02:56

 

Work has started on the custom code needed for FE. We already did this implementation in APB. So we have a head start. But we can't put FE back online till this is finished.

 

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MattPScott — 2025-03-13 19:28

 

Hey @Fallen Earth, I'm overdue for an update to you guys. We did a quick test on the Public Test world infrastructure that was promising. There are some clear issues that need to be worked out but progress is being made. The FE PT infrastructure was prepped during our last maintenance on Wed. The team is still a little spread thin, so I don't have an ETA yet. But it shouldn't be too long. Thanks for your patience guys.

 

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MattPScott — 2025-03-22 23:11

 

@Fallen Earth For you guys, we have been working out all the kinks in APB to help stabilize the network. I want to make sure things are running smoothly before we put FE back online. Sorry for the delay

 

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MattPScott — 2025-03-24 22:55

 

@APB:Reloaded @Fallen Earth @Unsung Story Here is an updated list of our priorities over the next 3 months (I'm considering firing up my old Forum post thread so i can post updates every week on our progress)

• APB Cross District Matchmaking is #1 - Admittedly, this part of the game has been a rough ride. It is impossible to test without a large population. But I know testing on Live is a mess because it affects the core of the game in very bad ways when it goes haywire. We spent some time over the weekend going through logs, identifying issues, and putting in bug fixes. I think we found at least 3 critical bugs. Those are going to be tested on OTW first, and then CDMM will be deployed during maintenance.
• APB Latency is also #1 (different team) - We have some replacement hardware coming in, and then we'll keep debugging after that.
• Customer Support is also #1 (different team) - We are switching systems again. Zoho customer support is atrocious. Never again. Looking to have this resolved by the beginning of April, and then I'll start posting CS updates on the forums
• APB Anti Cheat is #2 - I know each day that goes by without a good Anti Cheat is awful. We did our best with SARD. Removing it is the best call, but it doesn't change the ticking clock pressure to get our own version up for testing.
• NY Data Center is #2 (different team) - We have a location / partner picked out for this. Need to get the timeline confirmed, but this is high priority.
• STFU Open Beta is also #2 (different team) - We have all the infrastructure back in place. Currently under going final testing, however, I think we have to bite the bullet and upgrade from UE 5.2 -> UE 5.5 to fix the last couple issues. It's a super big bummer, because that means having to retest a bunch of stuff, but I dont think it can be avoided.
• Fallen Earth Live is #3 - We started work to support the code changes, but CDMM + Anti Cheat became an "all hands on deck", so that got paused. I know you guys are waiting on this.
• StoneHold Closed Beta is #4 - There's a bunch of infrastructure pieces that need to be put back online, and we need to upgrade from UE4 -> UE 5.5 to support our newer systems. I don't see a ton of work here, but it's a bit further out.
• Unsung Story update is #5

As for the next 3 months, I think we'll get through everything APB, STFU, and Fallen Earth above. Anti Cheat will launch asap. Next big content patch may roll into the June 18 - 15 year anniversary. (redaguota)

 

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MattPScott — 2025-04-01 21:23

 

Hey @Fallen Earth fans, I just saw the extra code get submitted to bring FE back online. We are going to get that built and deployed to our test world over the next couple days. Then we'll invite players to help us make sure everything is working.

 

Links:

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[solturn 2]

Thank you so much for the update! I love Fallen Earth so much. I have some friends who are interested in checking it out. 

[CrimsonMask 14]

  On 4/3/2025 at 2:09 AM, solturn said:

Thank you so much for the update! I love Fallen Earth so much. I have some friends who are interested in checking it out. 

Np. I regularly check discord for any updates, so if any more come up and not get shared here by LO themselves - ill likely repost in this topic.

[peb 1]

I start with this, thank you.
Information has been sparse.

 

And next my thoughts.
In my opinion information in discord is not public. Anything you need to create account to see, is not public information. And it is okay, to keep some information not public. But keep almost all information there. Is that good? It is developers choice.

 

And next next.
Keeping people dark is that good business practice. They must have felt it, when provider did not inform incoming problems. Sure they have more rights, they had business contract. And they get rights to damages, and maybe even punitive damages. If they withhold information, in what was going to happen.

 

And next next next.
Any business is hard. And business bases on trust. And is that so much different than, player and developer relationship bases on trust. So how you build trust? I wound say telling publicly.(Sure I am also passively- aggressive some times.) But in business, if you want to build trust, it is not good to be like that. Or in player relationships?

 

Ps. And please if do want to reply my thoughts(Sorry my blabber). Do not reply my comments in this thread, make new. Or if creator says okay, reply here. Keep it informative for the subject. Thanks.

[Warg86 40]

Any updates when server is back online ?

[CrimsonMask 14]

  On 4/19/2025 at 8:04 AM, Warg86 said:

Any updates when server is back online ?

nothing yet. i hope we get something soon, cause its getting too ridiculous.

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<TGM/MOD> KattieeFluff — 2025-04-18 06:43

 

Hopefully soon, no news for the moment

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[Warg86 40]

  On 4/19/2025 at 8:40 PM, CrimsonMask said:

nothing yet. i hope we get something soon, cause its getting too ridiculous.

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Im postive person but starting to get doubts ,that FE classic returns. Maybe they working on new version maybe other problems . Or just simply dont wanna but that back online. Hope nobody thinks im a bad person just too long now server offline.  Any updates from LO directly would be nice to have here.

[CrimsonMask 14]

Agreed. They did give a rough timeline ("next 3months"- apb, fe issues + other games tasks), but the prolonged silence the past few weeks isnt looking good.

Its possible they got stuck with something APB related tho, and just dont bother to update anything until some milestone is reached (there has been a lack of updates on the APB side of discord too).

[CrimsonMask 14]

 

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MattPScott — 2025-04-29 09:31

 

@Fallen Earth Hey everyone. Sorry for the radio silence and delay. We thought we were ready to start testing but hit a fairly significant snag with our network and how FE runs. We had to sideline additional dev work for a couple weeks due to another unexpected project. That is now well underway and the team has a bit more breathing room. FE work was reopened today to see if we could quickly fix the issues and get it back online. I feel terrible that it has taken this long. Sorry guys

 

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MattPScott — 2025-04-29 09:32

 

The quick summary is that we had to excavate some dev tools to modify the core network code to work with our new network. I worked on that personally more than a month ago. We started testing and quickly found a broken case. But then got a bit buried

 

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[Warg86 40]

  On 4/29/2025 at 11:06 AM, CrimsonMask said:

 

 

 

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Tnx Crimson for update.

[CrimsonMask 14]

  On 5/2/2025 at 8:34 AM, Warg86 said:

Tnx Crimson for update.

Np, ill keep at it until hopefuly the game is back up.

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Also, an invite link to LOs discord if theres any still interested to join it.

[CrimsonMask 14]

Very minor, and not directly FE related, update

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Frosi — 2025-05-18 22:45

 

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• Anti-Cheat is getting close to its testing stages.,

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The anti cheat for APB is the last known task that takes priority over FE. Hopefully they get to the testing phase soon-ish and FE gets decent attention finally, since it doesnt seem like a "quick fix" is possible.

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[Mukyy 0]

15 weeks and 2 days have passed since it went offline I go to spain in 10 weeks for 5 weeks I bet its still down when I get back 

[CrimsonMask 14]

  On 5/21/2025 at 2:35 PM, Mukyy said:

15 weeks and 2 days have passed since it went offline I go to spain in 10 weeks for 5 weeks I bet its still down when I get back 

Id like to think we would have it back by that time lol

Hopeful for an actual, decent FE update next week.

[Danielle kern 3]

wtf.... guys come on, this game is absolute shite buy a real gaming pc and start playing bigger and better games with developers and admins that actually know what they are doing.

[Mukyy 0]

  On 5/21/2025 at 2:54 PM, CrimsonMask said:

Id like to think we would have it back by that time lol

Hopeful for an actual, decent FE update next week.

16 weeks 2 days FE update today its been a week

[CrimsonMask 14]

  On 5/28/2025 at 10:47 AM, Mukyy said:

16 weeks 2 days FE update today its been a week

They got poked for an update yesterday, nothing new to repost here yet tho.

[CrimsonMask 14]

Not so much an update, but hey, theyre alive xD

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We are working on it still! Making progress, we would never forget you guys, but posting we are working on it is just repetitive

 

We'd rather go Yay we back!

 

Ill add official news once I have more details to share or... when we go back ^^

[Received via Discord PM from Emily]

[CrimsonMask 14]

Minor update: 

Issues at APB EU server host (more info - forum post here).

 

How it relates to FE:

 

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Crimson Mask — 2025-06-05 23:53

Will the outtage affect work on FE?  
(Yes, im shamelessly begging for an update )

 

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MattPScott — 2025-06-05 23:54

 

No. But the outage is related to bringing FE back online. Once this is done, those servers will be 1000x easier to bring back

 

Bonus:

 [Q: "but like, why dont you guys only focus on APB and sell the other games?"]

 

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MattPScott — 2025-06-05 23:56

There is a lot to unpack in this questions. And there are multiple answers, but mostly because (1) there are very few MMORPG publishers left that can support a game like FE which was written in 2008-2009 and (2) we have worked hard to rewrite the entire backend and give the game more longevity. Unfortunately, we have to do that a bit piecemeal because we're operating on cashflow. So it's taken a bit longer than I had hoped

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[CrimsonMask 14]

FE UPDATE

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MattPScott — 20:44

@Fallen Earth You guys are next to come online. Today's fix clears the path for Fallen Earth

 

The team is super crispy. So give us a couple days.

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[SurvivorVIII 3]

We owe our second lives to Fallen Earth.

[Mukyy 0]

  On 6/6/2025 at 5:52 PM, CrimsonMask said:

FE UPDATE

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"couple of days" you watch they mean couple of weeks maybe months.

[CrimsonMask 14]

  On 6/7/2025 at 1:48 PM, Mukyy said:

"couple of days" you watch they mean couple of weeks maybe months.

Wouldnt be realistic to expect anything on monday anyway. End of next week, begining of the week after that would be reasonable, if they dont get stuck on some bugs.

[oscarism333 1]

In reference to FE lack of state of play for a while atm similar to when she went offline a year or so before, i would like to quote this song: Michael Bolton - How Am I Supposed To Live Without You. While my Brain knows that things are most likely not this dramatic, the Heart feels what it feels...

[CrimsonMask 14]

Minor / indirect update from X

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Matthew Scott @mattpscott · Jun 15

 

Just finished the primary work on our new Gamersfirst Anti Cheat. Saw everything fire up properly against a production version of @apb_reloaded. Internal testing will start next week.

 

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(Context: APB AC takes priority over FE - with this out of the way, FE should get more attention)