Griefing Team Leader

[nursery 9]

How is it fair that in a 2v2 the team leader can team kill and grief you and you can do nothing about it to kick them? Pair that with an absolute crybaby and you’ll get a really lame game especially when you keep getting teamed up together. Good job APB 

[Hexerin 1140]

If only LO would enable /abandonmission to work in opposed matches, this and so many other issues the game has would be resolved.

[Darkzero3802 611]

If only the report feature acutally meant anything. You could report them for griefing and they would get in trouble for not following TOS.

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

On 10/3/2024 at 6:21 AM, nursery said:

How is it fair that in a 2v2 the team leader can team kill and grief you and you can do nothing about it to kick them?

Let me guess, BR. Yea Lo lets them do anything they want, and they are notorious for either tk you, or

jump off your car or run in front of it causing you to tk them, and then they kick you. 

 Stealing Your xp. 

 All of this is observed by GM's who are suppose to be in district.

Ah its all part of Matts grand plan. He figures if he lets these people harass legit players, 

that player will quit the game. Or what ever his motive is.

 Br stole 15 missions worth of xp, with me getting zero xp after considerable effort.

The players in question are still playing today, and in fact in district now. 

Br has strong hatred for anyone not Br. 

 

Merged.

 

On 10/3/2024 at 5:21 PM, Darkzero3802 said:

If only the report feature

Report feature works, in that it does function. 

Hack reports goto a file and supposedly work with sard to flag and monitor said player. 

However grieving, racism, chat related ect all goto the GMs. 

And then would have to be investigated After the Fact. 

So unless you have video or a chat log, there's not much for them to investigate, 

when it's after the fact. 

This is the main reason I refuse to use the report function. 

A. Sard is a Joke so reporting hacks is a waste of time, and even if banned Matt will let them back. 

B. Non Hacking reports and flagging of the troll/griever is not handled by a automation anticheat program.   

[Darkzero3802 611]

1 hour ago, MACKxBOLAN said:

Report feature works, in that it does function. 

Hack reports goto a file and supposedly work with sard to flag and monitor said player. 

However grieving, racism, chat related ect all goto the GMs. 

And then would have to be investigated After the Fact. 

So unless you have video or a chat log, there's not much for them to investigate, 

when it's after the fact. 

This is the main reason I refuse to use the report function. 

A. Sard is a Joke so reporting hacks is a waste of time, and even if banned Matt will let them back. 

B. Non Hacking reports and flagging of the troll/griever is not handled by a automation anticheat program.   

You fail to see sarcasm. We all know the in game report system doesnt actually do anything and is a waste of time

[reign 2]

It’s frustrating when a team leader abuses their position to grief or team kill, and it ruins the experience for everyone. APB could definitely benefit from better tools to deal with disruptive players, especially in small team settings like 2v2. Being stuck with the same toxic teammate over multiple games only makes it worse. Hopefully, the devs will take steps to improve the reporting and kicking system to prevent this from happening in the future.

[Darkzero3802 611]

On 10/4/2024 at 9:07 AM, reign said:

It’s frustrating when a team leader abuses their position to grief or team kill, and it ruins the experience for everyone. APB could definitely benefit from better tools to deal with disruptive players, especially in small team settings like 2v2. Being stuck with the same toxic teammate over multiple games only makes it worse. Hopefully, the devs will take steps to improve the reporting and kicking system to prevent this from happening in the future.

Back in the day the team lead could kick as pleased. But that was abused as if the lead didnt like your threat, gun or rank you were insta kicked and there was no team lead request option. Leader was leader and that was final.

Then they added the feature to vote for lead. This was a step in the right direction but has been abused cause if you have a group and they want lead. Well one calls a vote and majority say yes and kicks happen.

Then they added the requirement that one must receive a demerit before one can be kicked. If team lead dont like how your performing or your threat they purposely give you a demerit and kick you if they again dont like your threat, rank or if your doing poorly in the match. I have also seen instances where someone is afk in a match but you cant kick them cause their friends are in the match. They rather throw the match then kick their friend and have an active player.

At the end of the day each change to prevent the problem the APB playerbase has purposely gone around to continue the toxic behavior. So long as the community choses to remain so toxic no form of team lead and kicks will resolve the problem.

Edited October 6 by Darkzero3802

[reign 2]

On 10/6/2024 at 4:56 PM, Darkzero3802 said:

Back in the day the team lead could kick as pleased. But that was abused as if the lead didnt like your threat, gun or rank you were insta kicked and there was no team lead request option. Leader was leader and that was final.

Then they added the feature to vote for lead. This was a step in the right direction but has been abused cause if you have a group and they want lead. Well one calls a vote and majority say yes and kicks happen.

Then they added the requirement that one must receive a demerit before one can be kicked. If team lead dont like how your performing or your threat they purposely give you a demerit and kick you if they again dont like your threat, rank or if your doing poorly in the match. I have also seen instances where someone is afk in a match but you cant kick them cause their friends are in the match. They rather throw the match then kick their friend and have an active player.

At the end of the day each change to prevent the problem the APB playerbase has purposely gone around to continue the toxic behavior. So long as the community choses to remain so toxic no form of team lead and kicks will resolve the problem.

You're spot on. No matter how many adjustments they make, toxic players always find a way to exploit the system. The initial leader-controlled kick system had its flaws, and while the vote and demerit systems seemed like improvements, they’ve just created new avenues for abuse. The issue really comes down to the community itself—no amount of system tweaking will stop the problem if players keep exploiting every loophole. Until there's a shift in the player base’s attitude, it's hard to see how any kick system can truly solve the problem.

[MACKxBOLAN 431]

6 hours ago, reign said:

toxic players always find a way to exploit the system

True, And I don't understand why it is a one way street. 

If anyone can kick, then everyone in team should be able to kick. 

This is a core problem with apb. 

First off, letting some newer name, beings someone i don't know from bronze dist., 

come into my city, n then be placed as Leader over me, In My Town. is just wrong.

Then that person is gonna be a known toxic, known for toxics, hax, kicks, tk's ect.

And the person hasn't been banned for the previous kicks, which is stealing xp and fraud.

Then again LO has placed some toxic noob as leader. 

 When I say noob I mean new to me name. 

So I have questions as to what qualifies this person to be leader over me.

How is LO letting the same person, be my leader 15 missions in a row and I'm kicked 

because I'm not there race or clan type.

 So it's not just if you're a low performance player, its a matter of race and clan and if you 

hack or don't. 

So LO's lack of removing this feature is supporting toxics, hackers/cheaters, trolls, and racists.

Allot of these cases, its not that you might be a lower performance, its that members of the same clan 

are on both sides. and you're leader wants to exploit the mission and you're not one of them and might kill 

the person they are trying to bring up. 

Now I got all my max's remaxed they got nothing to steal from me. and Lo can't or won't do a thing. 

Then I will. 

 Oh I'll follow their one sided one way rules, but without need for xp now its all killin. 

The amount of evil and sometime criminal things going on in apb is what kept me playing. 

I actually feel bad when having to shoot someone i know isn't a hacker or toxic. 

I want all toxic hackers for opp, and long mission timers so i have time to kill em.

The objective is simply a reference point where i will find toxic hacking players bent on 

ruining the game or changing it to a basic k/d shooter, An Kill em. 

dint mean to rant, but something needs to be done about that kick feature. 

[Darkzero3802 611]

14 hours ago, reign said:

You're spot on. No matter how many adjustments they make, toxic players always find a way to exploit the system. The initial leader-controlled kick system had its flaws, and while the vote and demerit systems seemed like improvements, they’ve just created new avenues for abuse. The issue really comes down to the community itself—no amount of system tweaking will stop the problem if players keep exploiting every loophole. Until there's a shift in the player base’s attitude, it's hard to see how any kick system can truly solve the problem.

1. The community actually needs to give enough of a shit to be nice
2. LO needs to enforce the TOS and care about the game enough to do their job

[safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs 140]

On 10/3/2024 at 11:21 AM, Darkzero3802 said:

If only the report feature acutally meant anything. You could report them for griefing and they would get in trouble for not following TOS.

still wont fix anything. gold players should play with and against gold. putting level 9 bronzes on a team with a gold is just going to lead to more frustration than anything positive especially when its takeouts and your opp team is all max ranks with all modded weapons and character mods and cars... and explosives etc.

[Darkzero3802 611]

On 10/10/2024 at 2:13 PM, safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs said:

still wont fix anything. gold players should play with and against gold. putting level 9 bronzes on a team with a gold is just going to lead to more frustration than anything positive especially when its takeouts and your opp team is all max ranks with all modded weapons and character mods and cars... and explosives etc.

We tried segregation. It lead to the dethreating problem we have now. This wont change without LO enforcing TOS and a threat rework
You cant get out of the trainee district till lvl 50 anymore. Its impossible to have that happen.
You can buy all of the stuff in the JT store now unlike in the past. Play and get JT and you can get all that stuff

Long story short. Stuff has been tried and the community has repetedly been toxic and done everything to circumvent the changes to continue killing off the game and the devs dont care enough to clean up the game