Excalibur!

So yeah, lets every gun a ntec and make the game BORING. Really good idea!!! Its imposible to get killed as fast as you mention at more than 40m with the current character speed and cover you can get. If you get killed all the time by ntec at that kind of range, then its really a SKILL issue.

Why is a skill problem? You need to check what players mostly complain about guns or ask for nerfs in the first place. Thats why you ask for buffs and not nerfs, if you feel that a gun is weaker than other in the same category you should ask for a buff, not a nerf.

Go ahead, is not you who needs to learn to play, the one that needs to read me. I am not even discussing with you, not sure why do you feel so entitled...

And so i did, i removed the pic... but i have an older one. Thats why you cant say ntec its OP when you can do well with any gun if you know what you are doing. You didnt get my point anyways.

Is not a problem, you yourself agreed that being versatile doesnt mean its op. In good hands can be troubly, yes, but it can be outplayed at any range by any gun. it doesnt EXCELS at nothing. Nerfing its quality will get a pop drop just like the last time its been nerfed and rebuffed once again.

If you are outguned by ntec at cqc while you are using pointman, you have skill problems. If you are outgunned at mid range against ntec using oscar or carabine, you have skills problems. If you are outgunned by ntec at long range while using most marksman or sniper guns, you have skill problems. Notice that not every gun is able to just go outside in an open area and just take down anyone. For example obir requires you get cover all the time, its amazing for pop up/corner to corner fights.

You can't make every weapon work at every range. The less we need are pointman guns outguning nhvrs at 90m... you are ridiculous.

IMPOSSIBLE to reason with a silver that just limits himself to cry nerf a single weapon for YEARS and when its done, it gets reversed in no time because people realize that the gun it may be not as good or people who are good still doing well with it despise the nerf like it can be show in this IMAGE: Post nerf, cj3, no hs3. Its not the size of the gun its the player using it...

Yes they are. Even if they wouldnt, you can cover its weaknesses with your secondary, as any experienced player DOES? Do you know that there are other elements appart of a primary weapon to play the game and kill enemies??? Do you forget about opgl and osmaw can kill 1 hit?

Like if this game turns around open areas and 50m fights ALL the time. Please stop.

Boy you are so wrong... Star, yes it does. Atac, if you learn to use it, yes it does. Carabine destroys anything up to 50m if you dont find quick cover. Ursus need 5 bullets and with irl3 is an obeya upgrade... god if used that gun. Obeya can destroy an ntec 50m+, i use it with cj3 all the time, and every time i use this gun it doesnt matter who is in the other team they would run instantly to find cover. Oscar, check the vid posted... Stop embarassing yourself, its all about gameplay, enviroment and tactics. You can outperform ANY gun playing properly. This is not cod or cs, stop pulling your favourite games balances into apb.

Oh god, how could i forget about oscar, its the most painful gun in the game atm.

Star, atac, carabine, ursus, obeya (killed plenty of good cqc, even pointmans), cobra, issr... And you can keep adding weapons if you use your secondaries and tactics, aka gameplay, not raw "its op nerf".

Versatile, yes, it doesn't really excels at nothing unless a guy is in running in an open area.

No, you can't reason with a guy that just thinks of nerfing.

You can equip ir3 to ANY weapon, how many times do you need to find an excuse to spit nerf ntec?

That plenty of silvers that see a scripie gold using ntec, it doesnt mean the gun is OP. It doesnt mean that they dont take enough care to practice with it and cry is op means they are right.

You are completly forgeting that this game turns around enviroments, ntec cant do allways good and will be outperformed by plenty of guns. Lag and player skill depends on it too.

Ursus completly outgun a ntec at more than 50m range... its a full auto obeya.

Ntec is made to work at 50m and a plus. Rest of assault rifles are mostly working better than ntec under that range, its really simple. In pop ups fights or corner to corner any weapon that does more damage will outperform an ntec, see: obeya, obir, ducky, sniper, dmr etcs...

You can't be serious... ntec winning an atac in an open area? What?

Ursus? Star? How many times i sniped even with an atac... dude stop talking bs.

When you have a game like this with this low ttk... anyone that shots first will have the advantage and it mostly its reduced to that. You can outperform a ntec many ways.

Any weapon with more damage will outperform ntec, unless you are in an OPEN AREA fight. Even then atac, star, carabine can outperform easily a ntec 40-50m in an open area fight. Stop giving desinfo pls, help the game and dont take it down, they are listening.

And people still doing better with other weapons for multiple reasons... Whatever floats YOUR boat.