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Short answer: No! Long answer: Noooooo! Seriously, why? The STAR is fine as it is, why make such a change?

I agree. The AR is such a cool looking gun. Gives me CS 1.6 vibes. It's a shame that in APB it got reduced to a close range right-click-and-shoot Assault rifle with SMG damage. Unable to consistently hit anything past 30 meters.

This is so cool! I wonder how many other unused assets are out there. As for why this hasn't been used, prolly 'cause this is not the UK or Australia I like the damaged body model, though!

I love those! They would fit nicely into APB. Altough, we have a Subaru already yes? The Coywolf?

Yes, I'm aware of the costs. APB did cost around 100 Millions to develop back in the 2000's it wouldn't be far fetched to assume that nowadays a 200 to 300 millions budget would be required. There are companies able to stomach that cost. And the return of investment can be huge. The market for a game like APB is fairly untapped, and APB itself is a diamond in the rough. It doesn't have to be a 1 to 1 replica but something with similar core gameplay. The closest game to APB would be GTAO. And that game itself, as far as I know, has a very polarized playerbase. Many love it, but many hate it. The fact that APB has the things that GTAO players hate about it speaks volumes. APB's PvP is far superior. APB's customization is still unbeaten, 13 years later. It has a functioning Crouch and Switch camera shoulder. And those are just things I can come up with from the top of my head I'd like to mention again that it doesn't have to have APB's scale. Or to be a 1 to 1 replica. It just needs to have the core gameplay APB has. The other subsystems can come later

You're missing the point. This is not a suggestion thread, we're just discussing things

The other half of the charm would be the ping~ sound effect. If APB's engine is unable to add it when ammo is depleted, that would be underwhelming. Seeing how 'static' apb guns are, I wouldn't have much hope

Yes that'd be a cool reskin of the silenced OCA. Maybe have a unique mod to it, too PING~ It'd be hella fun. I wonder how it would be balanced, since it has 8 rounds IIRC? Edit: Pressed shift+enter and posted by mistake.

We already have a Cybertruck at home. Cybertruck at home: ultra low poly config edits.

YES! Great suggestions, I love those. I had trouble remembering the FN2000. I knew it had a "2000" in its name.

As a follow-up to my previous thread, what weapons would you like to see in APB? Same rule as last time, you can only choose one weapon per category. I'll start. For assault rifles, I dunno tbh, a bullpup rifle, yes please. Edit: An AK5C DMR, an M1 garand For SMGs, an MP7 Shotgun: Uhh, some pump action shotgun. It has to be pump action for balance purposes. Snipers: We have a decent selection so I'll suggest a .... LEVER ACTION RIFLE. LMG: I honestly have nothing to suggest here *shrug* Secondary: A Glock What would you choose? Sate my curiosity. [Edit reason: Accidentally pressed 'post' before finishing.] [2nd edit: Formatting and added images]

I know this most likely won't ever happen, but hey let's have some fun. So there are 3 tiers of cars in APB, you can suggest up to one car each. For low tier, NPC cars I would love to see a chevrolet Spark. Mid tier, hm this is tricky. Perhaps a Hyundai Accent? For high tier Cars, a Nascar Stock Car. I think they look cool. Show me what you think. Or feel free to roast my taste.

With the game being basically on life support, can't someone with money make a game similar to APB? Without it being a turd like a certain similar online game made by a certain studio? (I don't want to mention names fearing to hurt the feelings of rockstar games :^) ) Rhetorical questions, yes. But we can all agree that APB has a huge potential to become THE best online pvp shooter. Yes, there are plenty of shooters out there but they have a specific niche (eg: Battle Royales, fantasy shooters, sci-fi), or don't come even close to what APB could be (similar third person shooter existed but were not open world and were limited to , small, instanced maps). It doesn't need to have the depth of customization that APB has on day one. That could come out later with proper funding. But an open world, Cops vs Criminals, third person shooter with customizable cars and characters AND a big enough playerbase is something that is lacking in the gaming scene. We only have APB, and after it got sold (or whatever) to a chinese cOmPaNy, the silver lining I've been holding on to is long gone. So, basically I'm wishing for someone to make an "APB 2" of sorts. Something with: Open world, third person PvP shooter. Cops vs Criminals setting (Or something similar, heck I don't know. Corporations vs Militants/Resistance? Something grounded in reality, not deviating from a modern day setting). Somewhat customizable Characters, Cars and weapons. A mix of what we have now and Battlefield 3/4 weapon attachment style. A Combat system similar to APB. Why I mention this? As an example, some studios in their infinite wisdom fail to understand that a switch over-the-shoulder camera toggle is a MUST in third person shooters. APB's combat is very good imo, just needing some balance changes and good hitreg. Thank you for reading, let me know what you think. In the meantime, I'll go back to sniffing that sweet Hopium. Edit: Typo. Merged. Addendum: Also shouldn't have Pay 2 Win elements. A marketplace of reskins and cosmetics would be perfect to monetize the development. Maybe make it a $40-60 purchase too to deter some (a lot) of third world cheaters.

Wow and that was a long time ago! Thanks for the heads up!

Objectively, the Vegas 4x4 is (sadly) the best vehicle overall. Fast, durable, and can tank a direct OSMAW hit, or two mid range AAEPD rockets. Subjectively, I love the Jericho. It just looks cool and sounds cool with the correct kit.

Your explanation is a goldmine, I love how nuanced some character are - especially the feud between Seung and Jeung. I was halfway through making a topic about the Enforcers and how kinda bland they are until I read your first comment where you mentioned that the storyline of this game was not the main focus neither was it meant to be taken too seriously. Yet, I still dig all the subplots happening and all the character motivations and personalities you mentioned. If APB:R was more popular I would do lore videos about it in my spare time See, I agree with Byron. My main gripe is that the Blood Roses don't really go line in line with what I signed up with after watching the introduction video. If you ask me, I think they'd be a good candidate for a 3rd faction, something in-between Enforcers and Criminals. Edit: Typo

I like to think of it as a fun yet weak sniper rifle. It sounds cool, though, and definitely needs a buff or rework. YES! I love the Temptress but for the love of me it looks so small and weird. Why go for that small body? And that silencer, ugh! You are my new favorite person on APB! I love the CSG too for those exact same reasons, unfortunately I don't own one (yet) so it didn't make the list. Big gun with big damage up close and intimidating sound? Sign me up! Also, I think you guessed it right I did some further digging and it looks like a Sig 550-1 with a longer magazine and a muzzle that I honestly love. Thanks a ton, this has been bugging me for years. Literally! Excellent points! I love the COBRA too, I wish someday it gets the love it deserves. You mean the Strife? It has a big oomph and I love for too for that, but the firing rate is deadly (for you) unfortunately.

This is excellently written. My main gripe was that the Criminal faction in-game deviate a lot from the premise set up by the introduction video. Granted, as you mentioned, for the sake of gameplay, the city must remain in a static state. But that shouldn't pevent the factions from trying to achieve their motivation, only for that motivation to be in conflict with the opposing faction's motivation, which will result in an endless status quo. That would be absolutely perfect, and would marry the gameplay aspect of the game. I dislike the partying part of the Blood Roses, how the hell does that aid your cause in trying to change things! I love the breadcrumbs style of storytelling. You can tell by now that I'm kind of a lore junkie. It doesn't need to be deep, dark or intricate, it just needs to make sense. And that's what bugs me. APB is a good game but poorly designed and that's a rabbit hole that would take a book to talk about xD Lore breadcrumbs in emails that expire in 3 days, breaking your momentum after missions is a no-no. But I love doing so to find out more about what's going on. It's the little details, you know... Granted I have not maxed out my Criminal character yet, but the revolutionaries part you mentioned really intrigues me. PS: I pressed submit by mistake before being able to write this entire post, kindly ignore the (edited) mention above.

Yes, I get that feeling too. I haven't unlocked any contacts yet past Tier 4, but I can't shake the thought that so far, the motivations of the Criminals are so lackluster. Where is the change? Where is the revolt? The lore feels really cut down like you mentioned and the Enforcers are treated the same way, too.

And why (Also, you are not limited to mention just ONE weapon) I'll do the honors. My favorites are the Ursus and HVR-SD, reason being I like big guns on smol characters. My least favorite gotta be the Manic, because I hate the way it is held. (Also, if someone could help me identify the CR762's real life counterpart I would be really grateful.)

I think you hit the nail right on its head. This is a 2009 game and development started much sooner, and in that era IIRC lore writing for games was not the main focus. I've been trying to ignore the lore all these years but I always kept grinding my gears, haha!

I don't see what you're implying. Do you mean that by the time you've played for a while your perception changes? If that's so, the lore still remains the same. I just wish they made the characters sound less like comic book villains and focused on fleshing out more the motivations and goals of the factions ina way that doesn't make them look like jesters.

So, you start APB and as a newcomer you are more likely to choose the Criminals as a faction. Literally the first thing you hear afterwards is a cool quote (at least, for ex-edgy teenagers like me) along the lines of "So, you want thing to change? This is how". That line got me all excited about this faction, and I was wondering about the cool lore I was about to experience. Some Anarchism over here, maybe an attempt at a revolution/coup over there, some "yes we're breaking the law but we have good intentions" stuff sprinkeld in between. You know, things in relation with the introduction video of the faction. Yet (and this list is non exhaustive, I haven't maxed out a criminal yet to give an opinion about tier 5 and above contacts) what we got was some petty "I wanna take over our gang" drama, a depressed manipulative lass, and some boring 2-dimensional characters who only care about partying and more partying. No attempt at trying to change how things are. I might sound like I'm nitpicking but the characters are so forgettable that I don't even recall their story and/or goals. What? Who the fuck is Tyrone Sennett? The Enforcers are no better, but hey I'll get to them later. (Edit: Not anymore since I now believe the lroe was not meant to be taken too seriously.) I'm not asking to make changes, either, but I care about the lore of the games that I love and I wish they made the Criminals more fleshed out this comical, 2 dimensional joke.

Good to see old names from the old days still hanging around ;D

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