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58 minutes ago, Hikoto said:snip
There's no pay2win in apb, there's pay2unlock-earlier, and that's a good way to monetize things without destroying game balance. I'd only argue that things should be easier and faster to unlock, but that's it.
People aren't leaving because they don't wanna buy premium or because the game is p2w, they are leaving because the game has been stale in terms of content for years, matchmaking is atrocious because it makes people who have no equipment and no game knowledge match against people who have played hundreds/thousands of hours.
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3 hours ago, SynRapture said:That's not what the post says at all...
Maybe I worded it poorly, I meant EAC didn't want to develop the server-side anticheat for a game with such low playerbase because the development cost of it would outweigh the result.
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Matt already said they've decided to finally put progression up in the priority list after the engine upgrade. Modification rank requirements and weapon unlocks are more than likely to be changed since they give direct advantage over new players. Skill and game knowledge should be the only inherent advantages, not equipment unlocks through playtime/payments, I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that.
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1 hour ago, Pufty said:I noticed some comments saying EAC better than BE, but Matt in the same original posts has pointed out what and why they're going back to BE... In terms of pushing against macro use, it's quite a nice and stern move. Setting some ground rules in an anarchy game sounds silly, but hey... I would even start playing if that was introduced right this instant.
EAC can also detect and disallow macro software (namely, legit mouse software). Since I think you're missing the point, allow me to explain: LO ditched EAC because they couldn't afford the server-side anticheat costs since the playerbase is too small for it to be worthwhile. Going back to BE is the obvious move, but still a big downgrade, well, at least they finally decided to disallow macro software with this change. Saying that going back to BE is a good move because of macro and triggerbot detection is disingenuous.
Anyways, if BE is working about the same as it was before, we're in for a pretty bad ride if the server-side component isn't well implemented yet again. Oh, and, not to mention, running AHK x64 in admin mode used to bypass its detection, which is laughable at best.
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Yikes... Good luck.
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EAC is probably one of the best commercial anti-cheats at the moment and, just so you know, Epic Games bought the company a few years back. Besides, APB is running its 32bit version which is not as powerful as the 64bit one, as Matt said, that will be changed once the engine upgrade is released.
Also, to those that say APB has a large scale cheating problem, I wanna mention that Unreal Engine is "easy" to make cheats for (duh, it's the most used game engine on the planet), it's also why Valorant got a bunch of cheaters right on the first day of CB, even though they use Vanguard which is an in-house ring0 anti-cheat.
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Do not do this, specially if you don't know what DMZ is. If your packet loss is fixed with port forwarding then all you need to do is open the following ports: 80, 443, 2106, 3720 (TCP) and 3478-3479, 3722-3730, 5060, 5062, 12000-17000 (UDP).
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APB streamers have such low numbers that they had to give access to people like flaws and other "questionable" streamers. To be honest, they should've just opened the beta to everyone and let anyone stream it instead. APB isn't Valorant, there's not going to be a relevant viewership increase just because of this streamer beta access thing.
Also, good luck to all streamers who're going to stream at the same time as Kempington.
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1 hour ago, VickyFox said:Considering UE3.0 should be more versatile, it may support additional features that 2.5 can't.
APB is currently running on a UE 3.0 beta build, not UE 2.5.
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1 hour ago, zandatsudo said:
People can always "dethreat" because that's allowed. LIke I said : force players to join their respective threat level district. If they chose, they'll always go for the lowest ones to gang up on the rest.Just because you force players to play on a said threat district instance, doesn't mean they can't throw matches and dethreat? That's literally what happens now?
That "solution" by Queen of Love is insanely flawed. (who could have guessed?) Here, let me just make a new account throw a bunch of matches, get to Bronze and stay there forever, that will make things better! Also, locking the account's threat for 1 month, doesn't accomplish anything, you just delay the inevitable, while hurting the people who actually try to climb up.
Matchmaking, dethreating, those are all issues that stem from the lack of a playerbase.
Wait for the engine upgrade, phasing and for the playerbase to rise due to it, then improve on it where needed. That's what needs to be done.
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19 minutes ago, zandatsudo said:As the title says, having districts divided between threat level is utterly pointless. Bronze districts have more Silver and Gold players than actual Bronze ones. So what's the point? Either remove it entirely, since it's a totally broken system, or actually FORCE players to play in their respective district according to their threat level. Or at least make matchmaking more competent. Having 5 members in each party, but one party having 2 Gold characters and 3 Silver, while the other has 3 Silver and 2 Bronze is a recipe for disaster right from the start.
None of it works, people can always dethreat. The only fix is the game becoming populated.
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Their roadmap makes sense, they need the contacts to go out with the engine upgrade, not before. The engine upgrade itself won't retain the players, it sure will bring a population boost to the likes of what we saw when LO bought APB from G1, but it won't last long if it doesn't bring content with it. I'd argue that even just new contacts won't do much for the players but it is what it is at this time.
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26 minutes ago, Lily Rain said:The only person who is mad is you. All I did was debunk the fact that you have said there is absolutely no way to lose prestige other than dying. This clearly opened a hole in your soul. I am sorry, but you don't get to spread misinformation and expect people to let it slide. Straighten your facts next time or you'll get straightened, whether by myself again or someone else, period.
This explains why I wasn't able to put you in jail like most other n-tec and nfas mains, you are in Citadel.
Fear not, though. For once the global merge takes place, you'll join them in jail. Your day will come, sit tight. I will give you a swft arrest before you could even min-ttk me in the language your kind speaks.
Rank means nothing in APB unless you are high.
And this is exactly why I am superior to you and other meta-only players. I can make you struggle while being effectively out of the meta. This also proves your anger and the outcome of the previous discussion. You are in fact not much of a threat with LTL after all, eh? You can't arrest for the life of you and that fact alone makes you below most people. Enjoy your fake, multi-faced list of characters.
Unlike you Mr. many faces, I can hold my own without hiding behind many characters. Piling up characters means nothing towards being capable.
lol, don't put your inability to argue with facts and play outside the meta on me or anyone else around here. Those are your shortcomings and yours alone to fix. Don't blame it on the bounty system for it will only make you more of a weakling.
That's exactly the problem. You are not skilled so you won't be able to identify skilled players.
The fact that you are comparing APB to Overwatch and CS:GO alone reeks of trouble and the only loud mouth in this thread, so far, is you.
You'd do well to state real facts from here on out.
That's just plain cringe. You got me speechless, you are the epitome of what's wrong with this game's community, I won't even address your last reply topic by topic since you'll just distort everything once again.
I'm abandoning this thread since my point was made several pages back.
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17 minutes ago, PraiseTheSun said:So you're stating the other 80% is wrong? Outch.
What 80%, where did you even get that number from this thread? The forums don't even accurately represent the community, there's a reason why the vocal majority here doesn't represent the majority in game. People like "Lily Rain" don't depict most of the population of the game. Even if they did, quality over quantity is way more appreciated. I'd rather listen to 10 veteran "skilled" players than 50 randomly selected players of all kinds of skill levels and playtimes when talking about game balance/health. Just take a look at good examples like R6, Overwatch, CS:GO, where community feedback is extremely important and they need to filter out the feedback, loud mouths aren't the smartest ones a lot of the times.
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45 minutes ago, Lily Rain said:It is only a punishment to those whom are unworthy and whine about it all. You simply think you are better than you actually are. With the lack of knowledge, hesitation and doubt that you have shown earlier, It is you who in fact who belongs in the bronze district.
To further entertain your lack of information, I MAIN LTL and am Gold for eternity and always will be. You or anyone else aren't capable of pushing me down from that with all the advantages I give, so educate yourself about the game and the people you are addressing before you puke further misinformation and nonsense. You have already embarrassed yourself enough throughout the pages of this thread.
Someone is extremely mad, your whole post revolves around the fact that my (now) main character is a criminal and how I'm an incompetent player who only plays criminal due to being "unable" to play as enforcer. Sad conclusions from a salty person.
I have a few APB characters as you can clearly see here:
Wow, it just so happens that I have more Rating combined on enforcers than criminals... Now what Mr. Know It All?
Face it, you're an LTL main (LOOOOL), that speaks volumes about your gameplay and knowledge of the game. LTL is not META and is extremely situational, I can assure you will forever be condemned to only win against bad players or in specific mission scenarios, no chance against actual good opposition unless you're playing the game by abusing every single dirty strategy there is in the book and maybe then you'd have a chance.
It's actually hilarious that you had to pull a screenshot from god knows where (I haven't logged in in a while on that character), funny stuff. I'm still clueless as to who you are ingame, but I'm sure I've pissed you off by the sound of it, maybe you got your patootie handed more than a few times and you're just taking it out on my opinion about Bounty.
Anyways, congratulations on skewing the thread, you've still achieved nothing and Bounty is still disabled in missions, as it will continue to be if LO listens to the right people, which they did so far.
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1 hour ago, Lily Rain said:It is quite the contrary. Stabba-PIG is the ultimate secondary an Enforcer could ever have. Something that Criminals in particular are envious of.
Jesus, you are completely out of touch with the game LMAO. You should definitely start playing outside of Bronze mate.
QuoteAnd before the argument of "they can see me on the map" resurfaces. That argument is invalid because spotter-mod exists. The opposition doesn't need to see you on the map when they can see you behind walls. It is that much simple.
Spotter is a strategic option, P5/N5 is also a "strategic option" since you need to get out of your way to not get it, which is a strategy in itself, even though it's awful game design.
QuoteStolen vehicles are plentiful.
Not exactly true, highly situational and depends on where the mission is taking place.
QuotePlaying with the average rate of MAYBE 1 P5 per mission is nothing short of pathetic and this is exactly why the argument of "why should I get punished for being good" that surfaces around this forum is a delusional and flawed in itself.
It's been explained countless times why it's a punishment, you just can't grasp it. Then again, you're probably not even Gold yourself so you wouldn't understand. I hate to make remarks about threat level, but it's beyond obvious people who are in the lower brackets have a different POV about the game, it happens in every game.
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1 hour ago, Queen of Love said:interesting.
in conclusion, the elite pro tryhards ask for remove the p5n5 cause they are not so pro. (????maybe cause wallhack is not so funny when also oppo have it too simply watching map and radar? ???)
(have just a death more ruins their elite mission score? i die multiple times and still win ).Amazing argument, to say the least.
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34 minutes ago, Lily Rain said:That is not true.
Go on then, elaborate. Explain this amazing 2010 gameplay mechanic of getting bounty and having only 2 ways out: dying or lowering your prestige/notoriety by teamkilling or killing civillians as enforcer (assuming this still worked).
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2 hours ago, Salvick said:I don't back you up on this, sorry. Also, why so totalitarian? Some people might like some stuff that others just don't while some other people will like different stuff. Let it be. Removing, deleting, erasing or blocking is never a good option. Changes are good instead, and besides how sketchy the bounty system is/was, any attempt to change it would've been better than just removing it, I'm talking about turning on bounty during a mission and being on risk of getting killed while at it with chances to also kill some randoms around.
I think that's the challenge, knowing that everyone could come for you at any moment from any corner while you have tiny chances to survive, and some other factors that people here has been mentioning but that people like you that only wants their own reasons to be heard refuse to understand. My opinion is that people complaining so loud about this and any other mechanics clearly didn't understand how these works and never managed to handle it or attempted to play and learn which aspects of it are and advantage and a challenge against the disadvantages and risks.
Most funny part of turning on bounty was knowing someone could and indeed will do come for me to screw my mission or chase me down through the district. That along screwing any other "high tier" players abusing lowies, now you can't be a hero for your own faction players anymore.Clearly people at LO haven't had a chance to play the game and get the experience of APB by themselves without "that kind" of players tutoring them, otherwise makes no sense to see so many people complaining about how they keep pushing changes that only that self-proclaimed-elite of players wants to have.
In that case, P5/N5 should've been something that you'd OPT-IN on, not something you achieve for doing well or just playing the game as you should. It makes no sense to punish someone for playing the game, that isn't a fair challenge, you're literally 1v40 (considering faction members won't kill you, which is what used to happen most of the time for obvious reasons) and you are visible on the mini-map at all times and you have an icon above your character. Now tell me, where's the challenge? The thrill of having to fight a bunch of people who aren't on your mission and also can spawn within a few meters of you after you've just killed them? That's not a challenge that's just masochism and you didn't even get properly rewarded for it LMFAO.
You can call it what you want but that was just a gimping mechanic, all it did was try to keep you down during the mission. You had no way to get rid of it by killing enemy players or whatever task the game could give you, you just had it until you died which was the point of it. When you have games like CoD that give you killstreak rewards for doing well, you have APB Reloaded that gives you a death sentence for doing (almost) the same thing, how awesome is that? Also, I absolutely hate CoD, so don't even mention that I should be playing it instead of APB on which I've spent 6000+ hours throughout 9 years.
On a side note: No, I'm not one that refuses to hear others opinions, it's just that my opinion on this matter is the correct one for the longevity and the "competitive" aspect of the game, whether you like it or not.
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Just now, Fortune Runner said:you do get extra cash payouts as well as an ego boost if you do well.
but yeah some of you just like it easier and put people down for not thinking the same.
and yes i do enjoy getting a bounty on me during mission so i have more to shoot at
some of us liked the chaos open conflict district we had where everyone was red on the opposite faction and theres a thread on it from back when we had it.
1. You never got decent rewards for being P5/N5, the killer did get a bit of cash which makes it way more worth to them than to the Bounty. (this makes no sense, if the bounty is getting punished, then at least they should give them more rewards per kill than what they used to.)
2. I'm putting it down with legitimate arguments about game balance. Yes, matchmaking isn't good but the Bounty system isn't supposed to be there to fix it, that was never the intent, I'm sure.
3. You don't play the game to win, you play it for fun, which explains why you'd think the Bounty system was fine. What I'm saying is, I just want fair matches that depend more on skill than gimmicks. I know that missions aren't fair because they are asymmetrical and because of the RNG of the location where it's played at, no need to tell me about it, but fixing things like this is what can make us veterans stick and not ditch the game like others did and will.
4. You're literally just being nostalgic, not rational, about the open conflict district which mostly had a collective 10 players in them and most were green-bronze players that entered it by mistake.
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1 hour ago, HawtGirl said:Having overtime doesn't necessarily means it is enough for this game. Some missions doesn't even have overtime.
There was surely a reason to add a bounty system on the first place.
Overtime was added by G1 and Bounty has always existed since RTW, get your facts together if you're gonna argue with me. It was advertised as an "open-world" feature, but in reality it just never panned out to be what they envisioned back then.
Anyway, I'm yet to read a single convincing argument about why Bounty should be the way it was, you people just keep stating the same things:
- How uneven a match can be and how Bounty could "help" balance it out. (this is a lie, once the Bounty dies they go back to smashing you anyway, sure you could win 1 match but what about the other 10? also, you're still winning when you shouldn't be winning: matchmaking is at fault, not the players, so they shouldn't be wronged because the game has issues.)
- The fun element of becoming a bulls-eye to everyone in the district. (oh yeah, I forgot about the joy of being hunt down by everyone with no reward or benefit to anyone involved, my bad)
- If you're a good player you should be able to defeat everyone in the district that comes close to you even though everyone knows where you're at but you don't have any information on them. (sure sure)
- P5/N5 graphical popup instantly gives you an adrenaline boost when it gets displayed. (someone actually said something along these lines in this thread)
Please reflect about the bullshoot you are posting before actually pressing "Submit reply", specially since it really makes no sense to anyone but yourselves.
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2 hours ago, HawtGirl said:Any game with overtime for example.
It is a compensation for the faulty matchmaking. Now is even worse without it.
Except we have overtime on a lot of final stages already. Overtime is much more predictable than getting killed by a random off-mission player while doing an objective since you can't see where they are but they can clearly see where you are. It's unpredictable, unreliable and ruined many missions for the sake of randomness and unwanted chaos. But sure man, get LO to implement this as a toggle to allow people to go P5/N5 and be affected by those firing at them, let's see the metrics on who will actually want this back, so you can finally quit this dumb argument that you already lost several pages back.
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34 minutes ago, HawtGirl said:So how does that makes a difference exactly? If you are too good for the opposition, you get bounty. Simple as that. Deal with it like a man.
Why would I be punished because the matchmaking is faulty? Show me a game that does this and is successful.
EDIT: Also the game provides you with no way to get rid of the bounty, it's literally a punishment, the game wants you to die after you get it.
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I just wanna chime in and say that this latest N-TEC nerf shows that some of the underused guns like FAR, Rabid and Frenzy can be incredibly busted.
The game is actually frustrating now, all I see is bad players that could never 1v1 me to save their lives just jump+lean with the FAR and hold LMB. It's funny because I remember people complaining about the N-TEC being too forgiving in close range because it was able to do this, well, what now? And before you ask, yes, I did agree with the jumpshotting nerf (only that one though).
Honestly, it's time to rethink this balancing strategy, while I do agree with shifting the meta once in a while like any other game does, making the N-TEC absolutely useless in favor of "hold LMB to kill" type guns is not the way to go. Even if the nerfs on the N-TEC were warranted, at least LO could've looked at its counterparts and see what do they have in common with what got the N-TEC nerfed in the first place.
Anyways, I'm just baffled at the game's latest gun balancing and hope that LO starts surveying actually good players for feedback instead of relying on people from the SPCT that think they know what they're on about. Oh, and I couldn't end this one without mentioning that I can't wait for the scout to become 100% accurate while jumpshotting. I'm sure that's a change that some of the SPCTs are actively trying to push for and will probably be in the game soon.