Without them none of us would be here right now and as much as I hate to say it, that goes for G1 as well. Personally, I think that LO is not the only ones with something to prove here. I think we as a community need to come together and realize that this is quite possibly our last chance to make this game as great as we all know it should be. Even if LO manages to fix all the bugs and ban all the hackers, what would be the point if APB's community remains the same toxic cesspool that its always been?