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  1. Posted

    8 minutes ago, xiphos said:

    what happens when its not the first mistake?

    You realize that people make mistakes and stop being a child by telling them to never, ever do it again, ever.

  2. Posted · Edited by EvaPooh

    2 minutes ago, jmiIos said:

    if anyone that did weapon balance doesn't see the problem with that then they shouldn't be allowed to do any weapon changes ever.

    Alright, the next time you make a mistake in anything, you're no longer allowed to EVER do that sort of activity again.

     

    Simple, effective, illogical...

  3. Posted

    On 6/6/2021 at 2:16 PM, Revoluzzer said:

    As it stands, they are upgrading a minimal viable product of 2006 to a minimal viable product of 2014-ish. In 2021. With UE5 around the corner. And since they port everything, they have to put a lot of work into getting stuff to run that they might not even want to use in the future.

    So true.

     

    I Kickstarted Ashes of Creation in 2017 and that game has come further along than APB has in over a decade. The new Halo is coming out and it looks gorgeous and innovative. Tarkov is getting a huge map expansion and more. I don't really understand how APB is still even accessible these days... Other than shutting it down, selling it for a bargain to LO makes a lot of sense.

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    It was launched in 2010 as All Points Bulletin and then relaunched as APB Reloaded, a free-to-play game, by K2 Network's subsidiary Reloaded Productions after purchasing the rights for £1.5 million.

    I really hope LO didn't pay over 2 million USD for APB's rights, and if they did, I really hope they got a decent chunk of change from selling the future rights to that other company...

  8. Posted · Edited by EvaPooh

    Feels like a hindsight thread.

     

    In hindsight, I'd estimate they probably could have just built a new APB over 3 years and probably have more to show for it than a sphere Matt shared a little while ago.

    Alright, that was a bit underhanded, but honestly, I don't think they really understood just how awful APB is under the hood and underestimated how much effort it would take to fix it.

     

    They're kind of committed to fixing it now... I seriously doubt they can pack this all up and just reforge the spaghetti code from scratch, so this thread is more-or-less just reflecting on the likely more efficient path that was available when they first started off.

     

    If we're doing the whole hypothetical hindsight thing anyway, I'd have to say that if they could have bought the rights to the universe/game, then they could have let G1 keep their spaghetti monster, and then save money + time and just make All Points Bulletin 2.

  11. Posted · Edited by EvaPooh

    On 4/25/2021 at 1:51 PM, outfit said:

    they already know they need to fix things so why keep telling them?

    Because they're upset that a game they love has been absolute dog water (I personally adore the game, but let's be real - it's not exactly well maintained) for many, many years and it's a natural thing to do as a species to vent frustration. Getting emotional is what we humans do. Treating people who are upset with aggression or dismissing their emotions just makes it worse. People venting to Little Orbit costs you nothing and you claim you don't care, so why even post? It didn't help any.

     

    That's why people like Cookie shouldn't open their mouths most of the time, hence why he's been reported and reprimanded for it in the past.

    2 hours ago, outfit said:

    no one here cares about your feelings or frustrations lmao, i dont want to come on here and see you complaining about something that's already been said 100x.

    Little Orbit does. Any profit seeking entity cares about how its users are feeling. Stop coming here if certain threads irk you so much.

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  18. Posted

    8 hours ago, Kanashimi said:

    Because he has a right to say he was banned, that's why. You being snarky about it, is what's wrong with this community in the first place.

     

    6 hours ago, Valkyrja- said:

    Oh so I can't voice my opinion on him posting? I don't have that right? Get outta here with that. Lmfao Has a right to say he was banned? Weird but okay. I don't think we have rights when we sign that TOS. Support is the most logical choice. Snarky comment or not. So sorry, well no I'm not. 

     

    5 hours ago, xiphos said:

    you sure its not because people whine about respecting "rights" in the same breath they use to complain about someone exercising those very same "rights" ?

     

    3 hours ago, Kanashimi said:

    Whom is whining? I was just stating a fact. This will be the last I have to say of this, as I can see this is starting to build into some bs. I would rather nip it in the bud. Good day everyone.

     

    1 hour ago, Valkyrja- said:

    Stating a fact? What is the fact? That a snarky comment is what's wrong with the community? What is a fact in what you said? It's literally your opinions. The only thing I see as anywhere near a fact is the community is fed up with cheaters and how the game is being handled. Have a good one. 

    This forum is mostly the same trash over and over, but every once in a little while there's still some humour to be mined from it...

     

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    10 hours ago, GS said:

    I sent everything I needed to BE to verify my statements because I am sure of myself, unfortunately BE never responds to the email. Now I don't even try to unban myself because I already know that LO handles this game very badly and won't do anything.

    Support is the only way to get your account unbanned. So whether you're telling the truth or not, it doesn't really matter to anyone here. We can't help you, but good luck.

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  21. Posted

    On 3/6/2021 at 12:45 PM, Preme said:

    Another boring fucking player that wants shit removed from the game just cause you dont want to use it, its people like u that have brought the game to this shit state already, lets stop all the further removing or nerf beggings cause the only thing you gotta do is have fun your own way just like other people are trying to. if u cant have fun and u got to get on the forums and beg again for something to be removed then do us all a favor and simply remove yourself if ure not satisfied with the way the game is. 

    "never ever ask for changes to be made to the gameplay cause some new guy on the forum got upsetti spaghetti and screamed no, go away!"

    Okay, but like, no?

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  22. Posted

    5 hours ago, Hexerin said:

    There's... literally no downside to this kind of system, while having a bunch of upsides (primarily backend stuff, but noticeable to the end-user if they're paying attention).

    I've been an advocate for it for ages for APB. I said it helped ruin WoW.

  23. Posted

    57 minutes ago, Lign said:

    I don't think that it's a difficult technology to implement, many open world games have it for over 10 years. For example World Of Warcraft has it since Cataclysm as I remember correctly. You can meet players from different servers in outdoor, also invite them in your group without any loading

    Yeah, and it helped ruin it, lol. Would be great for APB though until its numbers aren't so low.

  24. Posted

    Interesting read for sure, lol.

    Seems like LO hired a dev team to make a game last year(?) and they didn't deliver and talked trash so LO sued them for not finishing the project and casting shade on them in public.

     

    Anyway, I cleaned up the formatting on some spice to share.

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    42. Upon information and belief, Defendants’ false statements disparaging Plaintiff 11 include, but are not limited to, the following:

     

    Folks that say [Descendent] scammed are WAY off base, we worked for nothing, this is a publisher [Little Orbit] holding it hostage trying to get the rights from us, which we have even offered but not for free; it is our belief that they [Little Orbit] can’t afford the marketing or console publishing and have parked it; we had good progress then they [Little Orbit] breached and are trying to snag the IP we own.

     

    They [Little Orbit] didn't market the game, they didn't properly test it, they constantly asked for changes - they didn't understand the project or market - they were trying to get it into Walmart instead of focusing on digital - so many ways they breached..... and finally they were unable to pay. We had to hold their hands so often on small things - they commissioned a video - for marketing, it was so unassociated with the game we had to rewrite the storyline, and manage new shots just to make it tie in.

     

    Little Orbit wanting to go full Arcade in January, was typical, they were getting 27 builds for months and then decided to PIVOT based upon the lack of sales for Overload - and that the name Descent did not mean anything in the industry anymore and that they would still need to spend on Marketing. The change in direction was 2 typical of them, and they [Little Orbit] have a history of pulling stunts late to try to stiff devs [developers].

     

    Essentially they are trying to run us out of biz and take over the IP; we have offered to let them [Little Orbit] buy us out - they don't have the $$$, so consider that.. if they can't even buy us out, how are they going to market, publish or finish the game? EXACTLY, they aren't..... so, here we are at an impasse - and those saying they fired us on Steam are way off base, you can't FIRE the IP holder - they just stopped paying, and breached their obligations hoping we would fold and give them everything and then trust them to share.

     

    We are here because of their [Little Orbit] decisions. They wanted a SAAS model, they needed our assistance on console, even though we were only contracted originally for the PC, they lost a console partner and a 2nd console team, they asked for a new ui like 4 times, they offered to do said UI then left it on us, they never tested properly, never marketed, and asked us to change to their completely new API in Decemberish.

     

    I mean as owner of the IP we wanted it as good as it could be and figured all of these 18 changes they understood the impact to the schedule. Clearly they did not, they would just yell at us and tell us to work 7 days a week. Then we researched their [Little Orbit] history and found a pattern of behavior as projects ran into trouble; Too many times I have seen publishers kill a game late, take it to market without the original devs, and pocket all the money...... right is right - If someone [Little Orbit] doesn't honor a contract signed recently, why would anyone trust they would honor one in the future? Once you start digging into some people's past and find similar situations and talk to others that have dealt with folks it clarifies a lot.

     

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