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  1. Posted

    Would it not be more efficient to accept the details others have provided you directly from official statements until such time as the official word changes? Matt and the LO team does a much better job of informing the players of information far better than G1 so have some trust that they are doing what they can as quick as they can without burning themselves out and giving up.

    Will anyone else take on this game? I really don't want them to give up! 🙂

     

    Try and find something else to do with your time, take a deep breath and give them until a few more days. They'll probably have to get over the new years celebrations first.

  2. Posted

    It's obvious you want to play and this is a significant frustration for you, but it is one of those things that (as others are pointing out) isn't likely to be 'fixed' any time soon. Maybe check back on the thread every 12 - 24 hours, or switch on notifications for it, and give it a day or two between requests for answers? I'm sure you would rather the staff spent time getting the issue sorted rather than scouring the forums for threads to respond to. They also deserve to spend time with family and friends during the holiday season...

  4. Posted

    18 hours ago, Solamente said:

    source: 

    Thank you for providing that. You said that it was no longer against the spirit of the game.

    That is not the impression I get when reading it.



    "You mentioned crosshairs, this is a super controversial one." - Recognises that it is a difficult topic to deal with.

    "Look, I can take a piece of tape and stick it in the middle of my monitor. That's not cheating right?" - The second sentence there is a question not a statement. This hooks into the 'controversial' nature whilst not outright stating what side the official stance falls on.

    Cheating can easily be described as 'gaining an unfair advantage through methods outside of skill and experience'. So it could be considered cheating. In this game... I doubt it does much if anything.

    "No publisher in the world can detect a piece of tape on your monitor." - 'We can't detect it' isn't 'we're happy for people to do it'.

    "Overlays have come up, currently my stance is "We're not banning for crosshair overlays, anything outside of the game. [...] The trick is don't modify the files, but overlays can be used." - This does clarify that an overlay can be used, and there is logic that could extend that to mean that monitor crosshair and even tape can be used, but again doesn't state that LO are happy for it to happen or that it is within the spirit of the game. It seems more like they accept that it would be far too hard for them to police and they haven't got the ability, time or inclination to attempt it, thus they aren't going to bother.

    All that said... I get it. I'm not overly fussed about it. I (again) doubt it really helps in many situations in this game and you can get the same sort of end result with subconscious learning.

    18 hours ago, Solamente said:

    they can’t detect them and it’s a waste of time even trying, comparing a visual crosshair preference to murder is beyond asinine 

    Of this I am aware. I was doing it to make a point, not directly compare the two topics. Just because an authority says they feel something is acceptable it doesn't mean everyone agrees. As I said; its different views. I feel it is morally low to use something like a monitor based crosshair in this (or any other PvP shooter) game... but I also said that I believe it doesn't help in this game anyway. I'm 100% likely to believe a person is using a trigger-bot rather than a monitor sight if I feel a situation was questionable.

  5. Posted

    36 minutes ago, Solamente said:

    it’s not “morally low” at all, because it’s no longer against the letter or the spirit of the game according to mattscott’s clarification on overlay crosshairs 

    It might help your point if you provide a source for that. My current response is:

    It's not "morally low" to murder someone as the law says it is no longer against the spirit of survival...

    Different views and I'm not aiming to derail the thread.

  7. Posted

    On 12/24/2019 at 9:17 AM, Bubush said:

    [...]because its a client side, and everything wich is located outside server, can be hacked with all kind of programs.

     

    [...]he just flooded me with his scripts and ive got freezed.

     

    There are good sections of the game that is client side, but a large amount is server side and (from my memory) if there is any conflict between client and server then server information is taken and client ignored. Just look at driving in a high lag moment. You think everything is fine, then you are told you didn't take that corner after all and you've been driving into this wall for the past two seconds.

     

    As to those scripts... NOPE. I've had that sort of moment happen in game but (due to what I said above) I don't immediately jump to them hacking. If you 100% feel like that is the only thing they could be doing then ignore them in the mission and take on their mates. Find enjoyment elsewhere by the time they are caught and ejected you'll have forgotten all about them.

    On 12/24/2019 at 9:28 AM, EerieEric said:

    [...] it had me questioning their legitimacy and their actions. hard.   I feel like there are some that have slipped under the radar and are abusing crap.  But I can't say with absolute certainty.

    There are certainly people abusing all manor of things in this game, but there is very little seriously egregious stuff happening to any level like it used to.

    Anyone remember a certain Epic Goat? They weren't the only one by any means but I play far more games that I can easily put down to the opposition being veterans that just know what the hell they are doing than someone doing shady shit.

    21 hours ago, Bubush said:

    I play games since 1998 and when im saying ” Thats hack ” then means its a hack not bs

    No, it just means that you have played a lot of different things and you have some knowledge. Unless you either code hacks yourself or you code for APB then you don't know anything about how this game does anything and you're just making a guess.

    19 hours ago, EerieEric said:

    I've seen people do some shady crap in this game and my stupid mind only tells me they are either scripting or macroing off the patootie to achieve such levels.  You have to also remember, those who do whatever with code will find a way.

    Maybe I let too much go, or maybe I'm right to put things down to surprisingly fortuitous lag spikes but my advice would be to take more deep breaths and look more for enjoyment than giving into the frustration. I'm not saying you aren't doing that already, it is good more for others reading this.

    When it comes to macros... that is a whole topic that I DO feel needs to be curtailed. Some people know exactly what they are doing and cover it as much as possible, others think that because a bit of software comes with their mouse/keyboard then it can/should legitimately be used in any game they want without any issue. Same sort of thing for monitors that have internal/software crosshairs.

    "Not my fault if you can't afford this, I bought it so I could use it. .... What do you mean it is against the rules? How will they know?"

  9. Posted

    1 hour ago, Fortune Runner said:

    funding = players spending money

    Little Orbit is not trying to milk us so funding is less compared to how G1 milked us.

    Oh I agree, I was just pondering the situation. At the end of the day players need to pay for stuff for the game to continue, but we both know it isn't that simple. There is a funding that has to be provided at anything from a per month to a per year basis

    Fingers crossed that the servers can be funded for long enough that player investment picks up enough...

  10. Posted

    It is starting to look like LO might not have the funding to keep the game going...

    This new data centre company seems like a bargain basement job that can't get their act together. I hope LO got a few benefits for the crap they are being put through here.

  12. Posted

    That might be down to the companies involved with your package doing a standard job that they do every day as well as your country's postal service knowing exactly where to deliver it. It would also be down to you to know how to use the relatively part.

    Getting servers delivered and installed is a bit of a different task...

  13. Posted

    On 12/16/2019 at 3:38 PM, Sayori said:

    This thing could be entirely avoided if LO was managing things properly.

    Oh, and I like how it took them 3 days to say why there was a delay when on the first day they already knew they f.ked up big time.

    They didn't have the time to because the contract on the old hosting was ending. It was either do it in a rush or wait much longer, probably about a year. This was detailed pretty clearly.

     

    It is quite possible that they weren't told the moment the equipment was flagged at customs. The details were probably sent to the hosting company/data centre, first and then relayed to LO. Customs takes its sweet time, then the hosting company don't want to say there is an issue so they hold off in the hopes it won't be more than a day or two, then LO gets the info and have to formulate a response.

    In companies there is usually a procedure to be followed before public statements are made. This takes time as well.

  15. Posted

    You could also try running the game borderless windowed.

    I do this and have only had the HUD go when switching characters.

     

    When running like this you only have to hit escape (or anything that gives you a mouse cursor back) and then you should be able to access the taskbar. I know it is a pain to keep using the mouse when a simple keyboard shortcut is much quicker, but with the way APB is right now it saves a lot of frustration.

    I'm not making excuses for LO - it needs fixing - but removing a frustration can only help while we wait.

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  16. Posted · Edited by Jobs2k
    Don't try typing your own BB code. The editor doesn't like it. -_-

    1 hour ago, greenfield said:

    oh too much text, can someone provide a short version of the op😄

    I think that will get very different responses depending on the viewpoint of the person replying.

     

    My overall aim is to try to bring new life/players to the game... or just generally increase the active player base and I'm looking for ways to do it.

    The reason I felt a need to post came from a discussion that began in the 'Extended Server Maintenance' thread.

  17. Posted

    7 hours ago, AdzataJB said:

    but there is a problem that even if one person joins a gold district, nothing changes because the rest of golds are still in the silver district (it is just their habit to choose it).

    I completely understand that psychology but do you feel it is productive ?

    This is not an easy problem to solve. I would be naive if I couldn't admit that. It doesn't stop me wanting to try.

    7 hours ago, AdzataJB said:

    the option of choosing lower threat district should be locked by the game so every gold joins gold district

    I'm pretty sure I remember G1 doing exactly this across all threat levels. It failed hard. I think that was because it was a hard limit. Back then I frequently played in a 4 man team and the moment one of us went gold they would become annoyed and depressed because they knew the moment their connection dropped (happened a lot back then) they wouldn't be joining us for a good while. They would be playing alone on gold while listening to the rest have fun.

    7 hours ago, AdzataJB said:

    tl;dr without interference of developers this problem is never gonna be fixed

    I totally agree. I'm just trying, probably in vain, to find community acceptable solutions that LO might want to consider.

    6 hours ago, postalgril said:

    my concern is when you have a full clan/group of golds. its not even worth playing. i always just afk but then i get the "HURR DURR REPORTED MISSION BLOCKING NOOB" whispers. like gtfo, let me /abandonmission then so i can press k and get a better match!!

    I feel that pain far more frequently than I like, but I don't believe going AFK is the best solution. Even if I know that direct conflict simply will not end well for me, I just switch to being an aggravation to do damage and leave. I focus on combat survival while hopping my team mates will capitalise.

    6 hours ago, Evagelyne said:

    I login to play the game, not sit in a dead district for 6 hours and give up trying to fill it.

     

    Thanks though.

    Yep, totally understand. It makes sense in the low population state we're in.

    Do you think it will change when the population increases, or will the server list show 2 empty gold servers, 6 full silver servers and three full bronze ones?

    Currently I forsee the latter.

    6 hours ago, HighSociety said:

    Ya back in 2012-2014 it worked well and there were 10-15 full districts...

    That had a higher chance of working because there was enough players on-line to provide a choice of active servers. I remember back then, if you were getting stomped (or just not enjoying the opposition) you switched out.

    It might happen again, but it relies entirely on getting enough players to fill enough servers.

  18. Posted

     

    22 minutes ago, Solamente said:

    those 10 criminals are ramraiding or doing some clan activity so they’re essentially not there as far as opposed missions are concerned, worst case scenario they actually leave as soon as an enf joins the district

    Yeah, in a way I misspoke/typed. I do understand they are basically guaranteed to be going for the cash, but part of my confusion is the fact that there are empty silver servers they could be doing that in. They go for the gold servers for exactly the reason you're talking about - no one goes in there, even if there are Crims raiding. They are at least 90% sure that they are safe in their crime spree and a huge chunk of that safety is provided by the idea of "Silver = Gold".

  20. Posted

    8 minutes ago, Ritual said:

    After this long wait, we are up and running on PC as well for both NA and EU. Please report any issues you may encounter. Steam logins may still encounter issues/errors.

    We're totally up and running except for the bits that aren't! lol

     

    Joking aside, please pass on our extreme gratitude for everything the entire team has been going through during this entire ordeal... complication... situation... whatever. Just, thank you!

  21. Posted · Edited by Jobs2k
    Ctrl+return=post... prematurely!

    1 hour ago, Speedz said:

    The majority of players nowadays have accepted that Silver = Gold, Bronze = Silver, and so on.

    When is LO bringing in platinum then? That way there is an even greater distance for platinum to dethreat down to bronze and keep players from being able to enjoy the game and stay.

    Sorry, but I feel that the Silver = Gold reasoning is fundamentally wrong and hurting the life of the game. Just because people accept a situation it doesn't mean it is correct to do so.

    1 hour ago, Speedz said:

    Even if you do kill me in a mission, but I see that you are way down on the scoreboard and you are either Silver or Bronze, I will tell you to switch instances - in a nice way ofc. I do this not because I get salty, I do it because I know how high the skillgap can get in that instance. Not to be rude, but you will drag down the performance of your team, which can be very annoying and is the main reason why you see everyone /ab - tab - enter on most mission starts.

    It is quite possible I will (and do) drag down the performance of my team, I don't recall ever denying that here or in game, but that is also possible. A great many times I am apologising to golds for bringing them down. Just as many people I have introduced to the game have done to me when I have taken them to bronze servers. I thought this was politeness and understanding. "I'm not in the server intended for my level so I must recognise that others aren't likely to be at my level. I should still help them enjoy the game where I can."

    1 hour ago, Speedz said:

    I had something similar in mind with the 24 hour lock on threat while reading your wall of text, but at most I'd use it as a temporary solution until we have phasing. After phasing, your second suggestion will be obsolete, since matchmaking won't be restricted to the current instance.

    One, both or neither of us has things confused in regard to the phasing. In a recent post Matt said that they are no longer looking at merging the two databases, rather they were now intending to loan characters back and forth between the two that currently exist.

    I took that to be more like other MMOs that allow you to move your character to a different server. Am I wrong and do we know what impacts that would have to the idea of phasing yet?

    1 hour ago, Havana said:

    [...] there will always be too many people and Bronze, Green and T's that dont know how to manually select their appropriate server. (Why this is still a thing for years is one of the biggest flaws in this game)

    Yet this practice goes on everyday. And THE biggest reason for a new person to quit immediately.

    This is a huge issue when it comes to player retention.

    1 hour ago, Havana said:

    Golds NEVER even attempt to get the GOLD server going. This might lead to People playing in their appropriately skilled district. And help newer people gain enough skill to reach Silver and Gold.

    You would think if they cared about the game they could organize (they do in matches) a week of actually playing in GOLD every other month or something.

    I don't know this to be true, but it sure as hell feels like it a lot of the time.

    1 hour ago, Havana said:

    Been said a million times. NEVER TRIED ONCE!

    Get rid of the Main Server screen and Show list of Servers.

    Force Bronze, Green and Trainee to play in Green Server. Or at least to a certain level. (Why was it made?) Its more empty than GOLD, some people Ramraid in Gold.

    Green is NOT used.

    Agreed. I am always baffled when I see 0 Enf 10 Crims in a gold server in the list but enter a silver server and see a sea of gold that I feel are all ready to tell me that the gold servers are empty.

    1 hour ago, Havana said:

    GMs GMS GMs where are they? Cmon man! This is a joke too!

    They cant, wont or dont do anything IF you ever see them. 

    We need a really extensive vetting process to get some real Mature GM's that can DO SOMETHING! And be mature enough for the job with no favortism.

    The community on all levels don't help out either. In the rare case you do see a GM all he/she gets is a never ending stream of Gimme this and gimme that and really really stupid repetitive questions. Go to the Forums and let GM's be GM's and Not Santa Claus.

    I don't fully agree with everything you are saying as I feel at least some of it might be a remnant of experience in the G1 days.

    I did enjoy seeing the odd one pop up in chat just after LO took over though. I hope it is something that is on their roadmap, even if it is an 'after the bigger stuff' type of thing.

    1 hour ago, Havana said:

    Just wait, New Engine and Phasing will solve all! It will NOT!

    Not directly, but I know of at least one person that has outright said that they can't wait to jump back in on the new engine. They are out there and their return might bring a shift we sorely need.

    I do agree that the new engine and phasing, separately or together, will not fix the overall issues. I also think that LO and the community understand that as well.

     

     

     

  23. Posted

    9 minutes ago, Ohinikana said:

    it honestly seems like they are jumping into things and not planning what they're doing

    While your post is on the better side of the criticism I think there is one possible scenario that critics might not have considered:

    What if LO took a good look at the public face or APB and saw so much potential, then they found out that they could own the IP and thought "yeah, let's look at doing this!"? They took the time, spoke to the right people, got lied to profusely, realised it would be a challenge but thought it was going to be okay. We know LO had to have had a fuller idea than any of us how bad it was, but frequently companies or their liquidators make their products/stock look the best they can while hiding the full story so they can mitigate losses.

     

    I'm describing a scenario similar to going to a real shady car dealer and seeing what you are SURE is a gem, a diamond in the rough and just think it needs a good clean and a tune up. Once that deal is done you don't get to go back.

    Now your options are simple: Sell it on and hope it doesn't kill people, break it up for scrap and take the loss or rebuild it over time.

    The scrap option for APB is essentially switch off the servers and give up on it. I don't see anyone who is reading these forums actually wanting that to be the ultimate outcome in the near future... especially LO!

    Selling it on would be possible, but it is likely that the game, in its current form, would be a loss in money and at this moment (yes, even after the servers have been completely off-line for days) I feel that all of LO (especially @MattScott) really do want the game to be successful... even if that is just for financial reasons. It's all the same to the end user - the game is on-line instead of dead.

    Once you rebuild the engine ( 😉 ) and the car is up and running, you can turn your attention to fixing up the panelling and interior.

     

    This is all completely speculation but it might provide people a different or unconsidered viewpoint.

  24. Posted

    58 minutes ago, MrSilverback said:

    Make all the claims you want but opponents aren't messaging you and telling you to go to bronze, your own teammates are doing that. Why not just go to the bronze district where you will be more help to your teammates and not a burden?

    Nope! At minimum, 70% of "You should play on bronze" comes from an opposed gold player, usually right after I kill them.

    When it comes to my team mates (or rather my faction) the mission starts, I am put in a team of about 4 players, the golds immediately abandon mission (see, not team mates), it is down to only silvers... which is very often just me. They don't stick around long enough to berate me for what they feel is me being in the 'wrong server'.

    I explained why I don't feel I should go to a bronze server and why I like to have my account in the silver threat level. Is my rational actually wrong? Or is it that people can't understand why I don't just conform to what everyone else does? Or have I entirely missed something important?

    32 minutes ago, MartinPL said:

    Anyone who wants to dismiss someone else's opinion without reading it based on their "skill level" in a game with ruined skill level calculation probably isn't worth listening to in the first place.

    Thank you for providing a thought-out detailed response.

    I agree with your post, but specifically with the bit I quoted. That said, I know how this community can be (but not always is) and I wanted to skip the general "you're just salty, try learning to play first" or "just go to bronze and stop bitching noob" type of stuff that so often happens.

    I recognise that I'm one player and I don't have a clue what the game code is doing, but you never truly know if your ideas are good or bad unless you discuss them with others or implement them yourself. I can't do the latter so I went with the former.

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  25. Posted

    1 hour ago, Mrwanderer said:

    In addition…I not too can speak English…Regret

    After trying really hard to understand anything you said, I can't agree with this statement more!

     

    It is your decision, but I would suggest typing in your native language and then providing whatever English your translator of choice provides you. At least others can then try to decode what you really meant if they feel a desire to.

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