Why is the Talon so garbage and Fang so brokenly OP?

[CookiePuss 5356]

1 hour ago, Zolerox said:

This is why, now please NO MORE threads about the Rapid Fire Pistol.

I'm sorry, what?

 

Merged.

1 hour ago, GhosT said:

When a burst sidearm is better than a primary burst weapon, it should ring a bell that something's wrong.

But it's worse than both the Obir and the OSCAR. 

It's only better than the Yukon really. 

[NotZombieBiscuit 3145]

Imagine having a better OBIR as a secondary. What a world.

 

Oh wait we live in that world.

[Nanometic 265]

Sharpen drop off to minimum damage, lower minimum damage, reduce damage slightly, widen hipfire.

 

Obviously put all the rfp in line for range, maybe meet in the middle and put it to 35, giving the fang 42 meters effective range.

 

Fixed(?)

Edited March 25, 2019 by Nanometic

[Gro 101]

I like talon. Why would one call it garbage? Cuz it doesn't have ir3? RFP is itill good without it.

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Gro said:

I like talon. Why would one call it garbage? Cuz it doesn't have ir3? RFP is itill good without it.

Because I can 6 shot burst people with 2 of the 3 shots landing, equating to 14 shots at 40m and the Fang just instakills at anyrange below 90m9

[Alani 475]

Weapon balancing will be a fuzzy bunny in the future.

 

They can't just change weapon mods however they want without pissing off people, and if they nerf shit to the ground it would be more pissing people off.

 

 

so good luck

[Nitronik 348]

since no one seems to have answered :


Standard RFP has 40m drop off range

RFP Fang has 47m drop off because of IR3

RFP Talon has 30m drop off range for some reason (mod description says nothing of this)

[CookiePuss 5356]

7 hours ago, Gro said:

I like talon. Why would one call it garbage? Cuz it doesn't have ir3? RFP is itill good without it.

Its a good gun no doubt, we just wonder why the Talon has a damage dropoff starting at 30m, whereas the standard RFP is 40m and the Fang is 47m.

[Lign 361]

13 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

yeah but then well have what happened to the Tin Soldier; The Trouble maker was so fucking broken they nerfed all of the gun series and made everything else complete dog shit

I only use that thing when Im messing around and try to high noon people lol

Dont think Ive ever seen someone else use it. Same with Odin

Just tried Tin soldier yesterday. It's so good. Better than oca due to high accuracy and being able to shoot from the corner and jumpshot with it

[neophobia 215]

17 hours ago, Mitne said:

Seriously? "Why?"

How about we look up real life counterpart, eh?

Not even saying how making it 3-shot, made it look bad in my eyes...

Eh. Realism isn't really an argument when it comes to APB. (Do I need to state reasons here?)

 

That being said, RFP does need a range nerf at least.

Or accuracy, to make IR3 a bit more punishing? I guess.

 

I for one also liked the IR changes they put in for some time. Anyway.

Edited March 25, 2019 by neophobia

[Fortune Runner 796]

10 hours ago, CookiePuss said:

Its a good gun no doubt, we just wonder why the Talon has a damage dropoff starting at 30m, whereas the standard RFP is 40m and the Fang is 47m.

is the talon more powerful than the others at a closer range like some guns do of equal type?

[BlatMan 656]

1 hour ago, Fortune Runner said:

is the talon more powerful than the others at a closer range like some guns do of equal type?

Same damage, but 10M less base range.

 

https://db.apbvault.net/items/Weapon_Pistol_RFP9-Sight_PR1_Armas

https://db.apbvault.net/items/Weapon_Pistol_RFP9-SD_PR1_Armas

https://db.apbvault.net/items/Weapon_Pistol_RFP9

 

I actually like the names RFP9-Sight and RFP9-SD. It better defines what each weapon is. Sight is for range, SD is for silence, like every other weapon. I hate the names they give weapons. I think only legendary weapons should have custom names, but I'm going off topic here.

Edited March 26, 2019 by MrsHappyPenguin

[Alani 475]

this thread had me buy the fang btw

 

lol this is awful and cruel

[Gateron 267]

Melocide as spct that weapon Will Stay like that for ever till the point i gave up and bought one account life time. If they don't nerf it join them.

[Guest]

On 3/26/2019 at 5:41 AM, Alani said:

this thread had me buy the fang btw

 

lol this is awful and cruel

TBH the Fang is one of the most damn good looking guns in the game.  Just use the Alternative skin and its ultra sexxy 

[Zolerox 564]

16 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

TBH the Fang is one of the most damn good looking guns in the game.  Just use the Alternative skin and its ultra sexxy 

I prefer the talon. (even though it's broken.)

[Szambi 85]

Talon is so smexy

[Guest]

7 hours ago, Szambi said:

Talon is so smexy

Agreed.  I wish theyd take the silencer off and make it an FBW clone.  Id buy 13 account bound

[Hiaro 20]

The RFP range buff is one of the many terrible balance changes LO has made.

 

Same reason csg is bad now

Same reason oca is too good now

Same reason nfas is op now

Same reason obir range sucks now

 

They have no idea what they're doing and screwed the weapon balance up. 

[CookiePuss 5356]

1 minute ago, Hiaro said:

The RFP range buff is one of the many terrible balance changes LO has made.

 

Same reason csg is bad now

Same reason oca is too good now

Same reason nfas is op now

Same reason obir range sucks now

 

They have no idea what they're doing and screwed the weapon balance up. 

Little Orbit hasn't touched the OCA or the Obir.

What are you even talking about?

[Guest]

On 3/25/2019 at 7:21 AM, CookiePuss said:

Its a good gun no doubt, we just wonder why the Talon has a damage dropoff starting at 30m, whereas the standard RFP is 40m and the Fang is 47m.

 

[Nitronik 348]

11 hours ago, Hiaro said:

The RFP range buff is one of the many terrible balance changes LO has made.

Thank god that was Reloaded Production's doing, then

[Guest]

On 3/24/2019 at 8:46 PM, Zolerox said:

This is why, now please NO MORE threads about the Rapid Fire Pistol.

The fang would have 3 shot killed at this distance. Please stop spamming your video over and over 

 

On 3/24/2019 at 9:00 PM, GhosT said:

When a burst sidearm is better than a primary burst weapon, it should ring a bell that something's wrong.

Video above.

[GhosT 1301]

1 hour ago, a Pair of Socks said:

 

Video above.

 

No way!

 

I meant the non-talon variants.

Talon is like, the balanced RFP, while the other RFPs easily outgun the OBIR.

[CookiePuss 5356]

Why do people say this.

Do we need to make a list of secondaries with a faster ttk than the Obir?

 

The Obir is a ranged weapon, good luck fighing an Obir with your Fang at 60m.

 

Hell even within the Fangs range, if you are using them correctly, both weapons should only leave you exposed for 3 bursts.

 

 

Edited March 29, 2019 by CookiePuss