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We've got other ideas too! One I am trying to figure out how it can work is a vote type kicking.  You're in a district, see someone cheating and do a report to kick. So may reports auto kicks someone.   Still trying to figure out the details but it's something I'm tossing around.
 
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Well, it will keep the golds out of the bronze districts :P

 

Seriously though, it's a really bad idea to allow players to choose who gets kicked.

 

You should look for a way to analyze player activity to determine if a player is participating in the mission. Often I get opposed against players who just drive away and never bother to participate. Worst is when the final stage is VIP because then you're stuck sitting there for 15 minutes if you don't restart your game.


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I'd assume there are measures in place to prevent people abusing this feature to have someone kicked regardless of if they think they're cheating (streamsnipers, targeted harassment)?

 

And would it be disabled for players who do abuse it?

 

We're still working out all the details but yes we'd have to have a lot of checks in place :)


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It just seems like a pointless system imo. I could see the potential abuse for FC, but requiring a mass vote just to kick someone from mission districts seems highly unlikely and only a minor inconvenience if it does finally pass.


Actually, for mission districts.... This might be the tool needed to kick dethreaters out when they are Gold.
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You know what also kicks?  :troll_face:

 

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What happens if a legit player gets kicked for suspicion and maybe gets banned if he continues to play the way he normally did?

 

I usually don't believe false positives but I don't know about this one.

maybe the player should stop dethreating for join green district?



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Actually, for mission districts.... This might be the tool needed to kick dethreaters out when they are Gold.

this^ ++++1



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I'd assume there are measures in place to prevent people abusing this feature to have someone kicked regardless of if they think they're cheating (streamsnipers, targeted harassment)?

 

And would it be disabled for players who do abuse it?

as for /report fuction, should be.



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We've got other ideas too! One I am trying to figure out how it can work is a vote type kicking. You're in a district, see someone cheating and do a report to kick. So may reports auto kicks someone. Still trying to figure out the details but it's something I'm tossing around.

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I can already see all the trolls toward the streamers, alot of streamers will get kicked for false reports...

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let call this future option * the Silvers Revenge* sound  good no ?


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It's a warning shot, "we know you're cheating and now so does everyone else". If they keep it up they're gone. I'm trying to look into different options of letting people make better decisions before they lose their accounts that they have spent $$ on and cry to support.


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let call this future option * the Silvers Revenge* sound  good no ?

maybe you could go to gold district with all your "pro" challengers and avoid any unfair hackusations. (and relative kick) 

i am sure match between gold will be very "skilled" and total "legit" ***

 

 

 

*** or not?


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  You're in a district, see someone cheating and do a report to kick. So may reports auto kicks someone.  

 

Dear god. No. Please no.

Kids will abuse it.

You can't expect this "community"  to self-moderate themselves responsibly.


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I wonder how its going to work just like csgo or quake live?

 

Vote by: (playerName)

Kick player: (playername?)

 

f1= yes f2=no

 

well anyone whos going to abused this system on me is 100% going to be recorded + sent to via support ticket = 1000% ban.

 

 

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F1= Yes , git gud nub

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Dear god. No. Please no.

Kids will abuse it.

You can't expect this "community"  to self-moderate themselves responsibly.

Poor dethreaters kicked so badly from bronze !    _(ç__ç, )_

Really, try to avoid osmaw ,volcano or opgl sometime.



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We've got other ideas too! One I am trying to figure out how it can work is a vote type kicking.  You're in a district, see someone cheating and do a report to kick. So may reports auto kicks someone.   Still trying to figure out the details but it's something I'm tossing around. 

 

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That is such an excellent idea!

 

I recommend you do something like "if more than 10% of the current district's players report said player within 15 minutes", it should trigger a menu from top mid like a group invite that says "Votekick for cheating?" and then 70% has to vote yes.

 

Also if more than 50% vote no, said requirement for reports should be raised. So that a player can have certain standings for a limited time, like:

 

Low (10% of current district has to report)

 

Regular (15% of current district has to report)

 

Trusted (20% of current district has to report)

 

And also vote percentage

 

Low (60% has to vote yes)

 

Regular (70% has to vote yes)

 

Trusted (80% has to vote yes)

 

You could also make it a seperate vote, so that you can vote:

 

1. Yes.

 

2. No.

 

3. No, this player is legit.

 

And i also think a specific amount of players should have to vote for a person to be trusted, before said person can get that status. 

 

This is such a great idea, since this would surely give us a way to break the hackers enormous egos, whilst giving the community the ability to fix the hacker problem themselves.

 

I also think it's very important to have a solution for streamers who may get harassed by votekicks.

 

Also a specific amount of time should pass before the kicked player can rejoin a district.


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So we are all now allowed to cheat once? :troll_face:

 

Anyways, i am against the votekick, that seriously will go wrong you know this community abuses everything you give them. Unfortunately with great power comes great abuse in here :/

 

on the other hand if they would use it responsible, at events like halloween where you always find people glitching themselves into bugged places it would be a nice thing to have.

 

a good try may be giving some trusted people these rights for such votes which use it repsonsible and are willing to take screenshots (just to backup the reason they use a kick), because it could also be used against people writing stupid stuff like wishing cancer to others or abusing said halloween bugged areas.

 

if it works and these people use it good some of them "doing it right" may be granted temp ban rights ontop. But seriously this will need you to filter these people correctly.


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Does this mean people who got Banned  in the past can have a second chance to play the game legit but still be flagged and watched ? .

 

As if your giving everyone a chance now should they not get the same treatment specially if they have high ranking accounts .

 

I have a Buddy that regrets the day he cheated and only did it because he was getting wrecked by cheaters everyday and he says he just had enough , 

True or not i would like to play with him again 



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Hahaha ... hah those last two posts.... hue...no just to sad to even laugh about...

 

edit: Now only the last one


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Yeah from the sound of it and thats my issue, what if its picking up (for example) perfect fire rate (joker spaming) and confusing it with macro. I dont want to be banned for something i didnt do, ive always thought people worried about false bans for suspect macro'ing was paranoia, but even im getting alil ansie. Its happened a couple of times so i guess im in the clear but what else could it be... kane'n able ??


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Actually, for mission districts.... This might be the tool needed to kick dethreaters out when they are Gold.

 

No, seriosuly, that just needs a tiny "if" in the code and disable the ability to ready up. problem solved.


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I believe everyone deserve a second chance when it comes to almost everything, but it is honestly bittersweet reading that they get a slap on the wrist when they should be banned instantly. Everyone can download cheats, it's a none effort thing. And some of us has the means to even make hacks or afford custom ones if we wanted to.

 

Oh well. Lets hope they learn from their mistakes.



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Someone ELI5 how the coding works that it's impossible for the dev team to deliver an instakick/ban for someone speeding?

 

Or rather, why won't it work with APB's code?Doesn't sound like a very difficult thing to do or sort out with a tool such as FF.


 

 


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this sounds Interesting, I gather that the total hour account playtime will be taken to account? or money spend on the account? 

 

are the full blatant cheaters still going to be 1 chance wrecked By FF?  



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For some reason I have this scenario in my head about some edgelord loser doing fake snaps hoping to get kicked for suspected cheating, just so he can improve his e-peen by saying he's "too good for the system". Yes, I am calling it right now, it will happen.


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For some reason I have this scenario in my head about some edgelord loser doing fake snaps hoping to get kicked for suspected cheating, just so he can improve his e-peen by saying he's "too good for the system". Yes, I am calling it right now, it will happen.

this wont happen though as FF is able to distinguish between a fake snap and a robotic snap to a target.
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this wont happen though as FF is able to distinguish between a fake snap and a robotic snap to a target.

Well, it was more about the idea of someone actually trying to do it for e-peen, than it actually happening.


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So we are all now allowed to cheat once? :troll_face:

 

Anyways, i am against the votekick, that seriously will go wrong you know this community abuses everything you give them. Unfortunately with great power comes great abuse in here :/

 

on the other hand if they would use it responsible, at events like halloween where you always find people glitching themselves into bugged places it would be a nice thing to have.

 

a good try may be giving some trusted people these rights for such votes which use it repsonsible and are willing to take screenshots (just to backup the reason they use a kick), because it could also be used against people writing stupid stuff like wishing cancer to others or abusing said halloween bugged areas.

 

if it works and these people use it good some of them "doing it right" may be granted temp ban rights ontop. But seriously this will need you to filter these people correctly.

 

 

this^

with some level of power ranking:

  • Executioner Level: never banned , more than 3000h of gameplay,at least silver threat = can kick everyone, in less than 1 second. ^-^ (like me!) if 10 kicks are injustifyed ,rank down.
  • Judge Level :never perma-banned, more than 1000 less than 3000, at least silver threat = can kick until rank 195 in less than 1 second :P  if 5 kicks are injustifyed  ,rank down.
  • Jury Level:never perma-banned, more than 100 and less than 1000h, at least silver threat = can kick until rank 100 in less than 1 minute. (O_o)  if 2 kicks are injustifyed rank down.
  • Witness Level: never  perma-banned and never flagged as suspiciuos cheat, less than 100 h ,at least silver threat = canT kick no one, just play and git gud. (ç_ç) one day will be ranked up


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DId someone say "vote"?

 

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<snip>

You keep saying that like FF one day up and decides to ban someone.

FF is watching all the time think of being in the big brother house, or under surveillance. You're literally being watched all the time and any evidence you have, they have in 10x more detail.

 

Why do people talk about FF like its not there all the time? Every second its running its adding information, details, evidence.

 

Ie: your evidence doesn't mean anything, because they have the actual evidence of everything that happens to a character at any given moment. When someone starts cheating, they cheat while being watched. Its like denying you broke the law while being caught on camera.

 

Reason why they don't take videos anymore, they're useless. If there's any information worth looking at, its on their end.
 


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We've got other ideas too! One I am trying to figure out how it can work is a vote type kicking.  You're in a district, see someone cheating and do a report to kick. So may reports auto kicks someone.   Still trying to figure out the details but it's something I'm tossing around. 

 

 

That's bad idea, because we have to not forget players who hackusates everyone even newbie bronzes in their bronzes districts



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i would restore that banned sc**b dog to his place by voting... give it to us :D



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That's bad idea, because we have to not forget players who hackusates everyone even newbie bronzes in their bronzes districts

join a pro gold district, so nobody will hackuse you.



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For some reason I have this scenario in my head about some edgelord loser doing fake snaps hoping to get kicked for suspected cheating, just so he can improve his e-peen by saying he's "too good for the system". Yes, I am calling it right now, it will happen.

 

didn't that already happen with people who tried to show how legit snaps look like got nbanned later just to cover up their cheats and claimed the same? That attemp was already there. But they failed to blame the system.


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<snip>

You have less evidence than they do.
You haven't proved anything wrong. You constantly make up reasons why G1 would have a personal vendetta against you and its all mommy. There is no reason to ban a perfectly legit clean person playing by the rules.

There is always a number of people that should end up being banned when ban waves happen and they don't, but they turn up later.

You literally cant just ignore that FF watches you because that is their law enforcement which is far more credible than anyone that plays this game.


I'm actually done with this mess. Just make me a forum mod so we can have SOMEONE with some competence around here.


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'vote kick by reports'

 

 

That idea wouldn't really be too great considering the current community.


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I was kicked yesterday still waiting on support to reply but this is the 2nd time I was kicked in a week, obviously I am not cheating and my account was unbanned earlier this week --- not sure what happened yesterday or why I was banned again  :(


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on the other hand if they would use it responsible, at events like halloween where you always find people glitching themselves into bugged places it would be a nice thing to have.

we could use some GMs to kick glitchers

now if GMs only existed in yurop...

 

 

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You have less evidence than they do.
You haven't proved anything wrong. You constantly make up reasons why G1 would have a personal vendetta against you and its all mommy. There is no reason to ban a perfectly legit clean person playing by the rules.

There is always a number of people that should end up being banned when ban waves happen and they don't, but they turn up later.

You literally cant just ignore that FF watches you because that is their law enforcement which is far more credible than anyone that plays this game.

 

On the other hand, the video you have there in that spoiler says absolutely nothing about Deadliest illegitimacy. 


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For the record, it is 100% impossible to maintain a 100% perfect fire rate 100% all the time. If you can, you aren't human. Don't worry about it

 

Pffffffffffffffffffffft. I can. I hold down LMB, my gun fires. 100% of the time.

 

Perfect fire rate.


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Pffffffffffffffffffffft. I can. I hold down LMB, my gun fires. 100% of the time.

 

Perfect fire rate.

not on semi-autos ...




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