Matchmaking issue idea

[AriaVenom 0]

5 hours ago, Triksterism said:

Hopefully with some tweaks first. For instance, preventing 1v4's (common in OC)

Agreed.. the problem here has been mostly a lack of population IMO. You have that 1 gold, that gets matched up vs 3 bronzes and a straggling green... Most often it's 1 Enforcer and 4 Crims, probably not even noticing they've 'k'd up while they were smashing/grabbing. I don't understand it really.. It's almost as if people are afraid of a non visible threat zone. At a chance to get better by matching up against higher threats.

 

I'll be absolutely honest, I dethreat like it's going out of style.  Half the time it's because the population is over on the Silver districts... other times is because I play with my kids and they're not necessarily at my threat level.  And to be perfectly frank, dethreating really sucks... it can sometimes take some serious "not fun" work/time if you're deep in the Gold threat and almost always comes at the cost of your teammate's time.  The only fun part about dethreating is being matched up against the petty fools that think they're owning you while you're dethreating and feel like they need to let you know how bad you are in district chat.

 

That verbal abuse of the bad or new players is another thing that really needs to end to promote player retention and population growth, but that's another topic.

 

This obligatory segregation of players has always been, and will continue to be, the worst idea G1 could have had... and honestly.. any idea to further the thinning out of the population will result in an inevitable demise of the game.  Driving around in an empty district, more often than not, because you're relatively good at the game, is not entirely fun or rewarding.

 

As it has been, getting Gold.. feels like a form of punishment... I had to create a character in Citadel just so I can dethreat half of those times.

Edited July 9, 2018 by AriaVenom

[VickyFox 352]

I too have said make the game more like OC, while threats can be displayed, just don't give them a translatable value.

It would remove the incentive to dethreat, and I'm sorry to the newer players but you got to learn how to deal with situations you don't like sometime if you want to get better at APB.

I agree that OC is undermine the match making when people play in groups in the district.

[RovingFox 9]

As I said before, just open conflict is not the answer, it will become a massacre from the perspective of low skill player. Also its not recommended to hurt that player base because that player base its mostly made of new players. You need those if you want to revive the game. That is why I suggested another type of matchmaking when you join the district.

Edited July 9, 2018 by RovingFox

[AriaVenom 0]

9 hours ago, RovingFox said:

As I said before, just open conflict is not the answer, it will become a massacre from the perspective of low skill player. Also its not recommended to hurt that player base because that player base its mostly made of new players, you need those if you want to revive the game. That is why I suggested another type of matchmaking when you join the district.

TL;DR

I disagree... There will always be less 'new' players than experienced players at any point in time in-game. And it's not about having thick skin or learning to deal with it, it's about enjoyment of the game... once it's no longer fun, there's no point in loading up the launcher.  This is something that is fact and equally important for both new and old player retention.

 

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I don't know if I can agree with you there.  Player retention is equally as important of new players as it is of more experienced players.  From my perspective, you will always have players being massacred in this game, but like every MMO you earn or unlock mods and tools and learn as you progress.  Though I do feel that 'some' of the Armas items can give you an advantage, when it simply should not for the sake of balance.

 

When I first started this game years ago.. I was not necessarily massacred left and right. Yes, many times I'd lose more often than not, but that whole time I was learning from my mistakes and after a couple of weeks or so of trial and error and talking to people, I learned that I needed to grind for mods, pledge my contacts.... that how you customize your cars can make a difference... etc.. etc.  It is ultimately a game and in every game you will lose some and win some.  More often than not you will lose when you're just starting out and learning, regardless of who you play against. I feel that universally, every gamer understands that basic principle of gaming and that particularly doesn't concern me as much, personally, as the thinning out of the player base 'herd' and keeping them away from the pack.  Heaven forbid you're trying to max out a pledge and get the Gold curse early on as a newer player. Gold is hella easy to get.
 

Heck I stuck to that Star 556 for a very very long time and every so often some new guy with a Star totally wrecks me... I still feel that Star 556 is OP and use it every so often and as such new players are well enough equipped and not overly burdened to learn the game.

 

Like I stated earlier, getting Gold has felt mostly like a punishment and not a reward since you get sent to the 'empty' server and are essentially 'banned' from the game. Additionally, it obligates you to miss out on clan team ups if you're in a clan. Ever try introducing friends to the game and showing them how to play while you're gold? For what??? For actually being good? What is the incentive then to play any game if not to challenge yourself and rejoice in the achievement of getting better?  To actually.. 'git gud'?

 

But that's exactly what's happened... and more and more people get tired of de-threating or being penalized for the achievement of high rank.  Many more get tired of 'the grind' of dethreating and/or being accused of "wanting to stomp on Silvers" as a motivation to dethreat.  That in itself has contributed more to population decline and toxicity than the under achieving noober rage quitting.

 

I myself may sometimes just have time to play a couple of rounds and end up Gold again... I'm faced with the option now to spend more time dethreating before logging out or potentially not being able to play when I log back in.

 

To cut this post short, it's getting long... There will always be less 'new' players than experienced players at any point in time in-game. And it's not about having thick skin or learning to deal with it, it's about enjoyment of the game... once it's no longer fun, there's no point in loading up the launcher.  This is something that is fact and equally important for both new and old player retention.

 

I'd dare to say that the one thing that's kept the game afloat, is the fact that the "Advanced Tab" is not intuitive as to it's function.  Most new players today see 200 total players in a game as a game that's well into it's death spiral. So yes, I'd agree... get rid of the Advanced Tab and fix or tweak matchmaking... but go further and end segregation.

Edited July 9, 2018 by AriaVenom

[VickyFox 352]

12 hours ago, RovingFox said:

As I said before, just open conflict is not the answer, it will become a massacre from the perspective of low skill player. Also its not recommended to hurt that player base because that player base its mostly made of new players. You need those if you want to revive the game. That is why I suggested another type of matchmaking when you join the district.

 

Well your suggestion doesn't address the fact the matchmaking system is broken, I said it earlier in another post that match making / threat needs to be fixed regardless what other supporting structure is in place.

Honestly I can't really be f-cked to keep repeating myself for every single suggestion thread claiming to have the cure to this problem of high threat players in low threat districts, I'm going to make a new thread because I end up keep repeating myself.

[RovingFox 9]

Stay on topic, no self advertising.

[chaoscody 12]

looks fine to me

[TheMessiah 424]

Thats how new/worse players gonna be in green and the rest in theyr threat districts(bronze,silver,gold)This is 1 of the most simple solutions(removing advanced tab)i talk from lomg time.The problem is dat some players can get in empty districts and wait 4ever 4 match.The solution is again simple:this "show recommended" tab must stay checked by default so players cant uncheck it.Thats how everybody gonna be in theyr own threat districts.If players lets say gold and bronze want to play together they can do it in open conflict.The problem with this is dat theres not many players on the servers right now to fill well this districts besides citadel.But hey LO must find a way how to pop up playerbase.Some event,free premium etc and can happen.People must stop sayn "matchmaking cant be fixed right now" because is a lie.Actually is not broken just needs some tweaks also the speed players move between threats

Edited August 5, 2018 by BingoBookBG