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11 minutes ago, SpeedyCat said:

Eventually, but it is another system and eventually it can help to keep that looting if LO get some trouble or something about gambling rules or something, idk

 

Gambling is gambling no matter what the odds. Would love to see the actual % drop chances on all of them though... if they are even based on such. I mean Casinos have to tell you the odds so why not.

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47 minutes ago, CookiePuss said:

Probably hard to ditch one stream of income without another to replace it.

ditching the boxes is a terrible idea but, letting someone spend hundreds on a box without getting a legendary is also bad...maybe they gotta do something with the legendary droprate, like on each drop the rate of getting a legendary increase

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8 minutes ago, Keshi said:

ditching the boxes is a terrible idea but, letting someone spend hundreds on a box without getting a legendary is also bad...maybe they gotta do something with the legendary droprate, like on each drop the rate of getting a legendary increase

its not like anyone is forcing people to spend money on joker boxes, they might as well just be a donation box tbh

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17 minutes ago, BXNNXD said:

its not like anyone is forcing people to spend money on joker boxes, they might as well just be a donation box tbh

Some people can be addicted to such activities though, or just crazy and spend way too much on these things. Honestly I think they are a bad way to spend money but to each their own right.

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1 hour ago, SpeedyCat said:

Anybody know the system of the Gambling boxes from the Game S.K.I.L.L.?

 

@MattScott @Lixil

Eventually this is a solution against the only RNG driven drop of the Boxes and against gambling rules.

 

In S.K.I.L.L. you can buy lootboxes and in first it's RNG too, but if you have bought atleast a set number of boxes (100 or so), you instantly get your Legendary.

This means that if you want the Legendary XYZ out of a box you can proof your luck or buy it instant. The guns are not tradeable on any ingame markets or anything else...

 

I worked on S.K.I.L.L so I'm very familiar with their boxes. I'm gonna mention this to the team.

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19 minutes ago, Lixil said:

I worked on S.K.I.L.L so I'm very familiar with their boxes. I'm gonna mention this to the team.

Please do, thats a great idea!

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22 minutes ago, Lixil said:

I worked on S.K.I.L.L so I'm very familiar with their boxes. I'm gonna mention this to the team.

Yeah cool, that sounds awsome 😉

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Pity counter! I like this idea, might start buying a few boxes during BOGO if this gets implemented. Only during BOGO though, I'm poor. 😞

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I had the exact thing happen. I opened a case right before Orbit took over and was told to fly a kite

 

I really do believe they are bugged.

 

I would appreciate someone from Orbit take a good look at them and if there is an issue, please re-issue my boxes

 

I am honestly hesitant to purchase any more until I see that they are fixed

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I've always been against loot boxes in all games, its gambling and its terrible.

It takes advantage of people with... flawed thinking to put it nicely.

I know a fellow IRL, who starts with enough money for his cigarettes, and weed, but instead spends it all on scratcher tickets, claiming he needs to make money to buy his cigarettes and weed, which of course almost always ends up with him having no money for anything. Which of course makes him angry and he feels the world is being unfair.

He does what a lot of people would never want to do, recycling cans and bottles, the type of fellow you would see going through dumpsters with a grocery cart.

He is SO addicted to gambling, it prevents him (thankfully) from becoming addicted to worse things like meth, thats how powerful gambling addiction is.

 

Thats just one example, I'm sure most people know at least one person who has struggled with such a thing. If you search the web, there are even examples of people showing the same behaviour with in game loot boxes and the terrible fallout it had on their lives.

 

IMHO, there is a damn good reason some countries are actively making loot boxes illegal.

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1 hour ago, Lixil said:

I worked on S.K.I.L.L so I'm very familiar with their boxes. I'm gonna mention this to the team.

trust me...doing this will make people spend more on JMB's...

 

2 hours ago, SelttikS said:

Some people can be addicted to such activities though, or just crazy and spend way too much on these things. Honestly I think they are a bad way to spend money but to each their own right.

And i know allot of people who'd go broke for this.... even in APB...

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"why are these things rng boxes that don't have the % chance of drop listed not giving me the item i want" idk prob cause they're loot crates?

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I've had bad luck and good. My first Nano took me 173 joker boxes, then my Ursus I got on my first three boxes. I've learned my lesson with joker boxes/loot crates.

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There was a similar thread on old forum where a person explained how she have spent 2065$ on Ogre box and didn't got the gun. Also recently in the game a player said "I swear I won't login back until I get the Duck from boxes" - nonetheless 30 minutes later s/he returned, yet without the Duck (and 250 euros).

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9 hours ago, Dipsty said:

So im starting to question these boxes, because i've opened 11 of them in the last 3 days, and only gotten joker tickets, thats 55$ for 1500 Joker Tickets, so, i wanted to know, are they bugged, or my luck is trash? 

 

p.s. Yes, i have a problem....

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I know that feel all to well, when  there was the buy 1 get one free event, i opened i shit you not 20 or was it 25? I really don't remember, and i got joker tickets after joker tickets only out of each one in a row. I spent like 100 or 200$ during that event didn't get a medsua or anything. My recommendation wait till little orbit changes the market place before wasting more money on these loot boxes. They do plan to look at the market place and adjust prices/chances if needed. Which there is no reason you should be able to get open 20 boxes in a row and get tickets. And the 2k or so joker tickets really is jack shit and a slap in the face. I could see if it was like ya know 500 to 1k each box. As some things are absurd in how much they cost. So yeah i have a feeling they are gonna bring these scams down to a more competitive level to try and get more people to spend money.

 

I have refused to spend any more money, cause of the like 100+ boxes i opened. I still have like 63ish timed weapons in my mail box. And that alone isn't really worth my mailbox being permently spammed, giving me a constant reminder i got screwed so damn hard with rng. According to most people's luck i should of gotten 3+ during that. 😕

 

The only suggestion i could give if they didn't want to change the rates. Add in a pity timer like just about any other game, that way after like lets say 100$ worth of boxes you are getting it no matter what. I mean 100$ for a life time weapon is on the extremely high end, but at least it would be better than nothing. And gives more players an incentive to drop 10$ here 20$ here and eventually get the weapon they want.

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1 hour ago, Verixonsen said:

I know that feel all to well, when  there was the buy 1 get one free event, i opened i shit you not 20 or was it 25? I really don't remember, and i got joker tickets after joker tickets only out of each one in a row. I spent like 100 or 200$ during that event didn't get a medsua or anything. My recommendation wait till little orbit changes the market place before wasting more money on these loot boxes. They do plan to look at the market place and adjust prices/chances if needed. Which there is no reason you should be able to get open 20 boxes in a row and get tickets. And the 2k or so joker tickets really is jack shit and a slap in the face. I could see if it was like ya know 500 to 1k each box. As some things are absurd in how much they cost. So yeah i have a feeling they are gonna bring these scams down to a more competitive level to try and get more people to spend money.

 

I have refused to spend any more money, cause of the like 100+ boxes i opened. I still have like 63ish timed weapons in my mail box. And that alone isn't really worth my mailbox being permently spammed, giving me a constant reminder i got screwed so damn hard with rng. According to most people's luck i should of gotten 3+ during that. 😕

 

The only suggestion i could give if they didn't want to change the rates. Add in a pity timer like just about any other game, that way after like lets say 100$ worth of boxes you are getting it no matter what. I mean 100$ for a life time weapon is on the extremely high end, but at least it would be better than nothing. And gives more players an incentive to drop 10$ here 20$ here and eventually get the weapon they want.

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*Gambles money to get a virtual gun, does not get it.*

 

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"Gambling is unfair i want to pay the gun directly and shit on people who paid more money to get anything."

 

Why do you gamble if you wont acept getting anything? Are you stupid?

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I'm sorry but making legendary weapons not tradeable or sellable in marketplace will ruin the apb marketplace. More over in this game there are many spheres that players are using, for example making Symbols, Cars, Themes, Songs and also trade, exchanging of legendaries. Its like removing one of this spheres.

Exchanging, Trading legendary weapons in apb reloaded was always one of the most important and interesting part of the game. It will be very sad to most of us seeing it locked away. I'm sure there are more players who will agree with me.

I suggest to improve the trading system instead of removing the legendary exchange sphere completely.

There are many players who waiting for a better trading system instead of locking legendary weapons to account bound. 

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1 hour ago, Krrris said:

I'm sorry but making legendary weapons not tradeable or sellable in marketplace will ruin the apb marketplace. More over in this game there are many spheres that players are using, for example making Symbols, Cars, Themes, Songs and also trade, exchanging of legendaries. Its like removing one of this spheres.

Exchanging, Trading legendary weapons in apb reloaded was always one of the most important and interesting part of the game. It will be very sad to most of us seeing it locked away. I'm sure there are more players who will agree with me.

I suggest to improve the trading system instead of removing the legendary exchange sphere completely.

There are many players who waiting for a better trading system instead of locking legendary weapons to account bound. 

I totally agree with this.
THOUGH... if changed... we would need somthing to counter ballance the hole this might leave. some other way to trade rare guns.

KEEP IN MIND! if you disallow this people with create mule accounts with these locked guns and trade the account for real money.
Don't try and fix a problem so that it might get worse.

This is just my thourghts on this.

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I would better pay 5$ for the gun, instead of wasting 2000$ on JMB and getting nothing. 

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2 minutes ago, Nipps22 said:

I would better pay 5$ for the gun, instead of wasting 2000$ on JMB and getting nothing. 

I disagree!
There should be rare stuff in this game.

And they should be hard to aquire.
Im not saying the boxes was the right thing to do in the first place, but taking all the cool stuff in the game and make it avalible for 5$ on armas is a very wrong thing to do and will ruin all the "magic" around these funky rare guns.

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1 minute ago, LeFoox said:

I disagree!
There should be rare stuff in this game.

And they should be hard to aquire.
Im not saying the boxes was the right thing to do in the first place, but taking all the cool stuff in the game and make it avalible for 5$ on armas is a very wrong thing to do and will ruin all the "magic" around these funky rare guns.

hmm.. you are right

but still the chances of getting a legendary weapon and wasting 2000$ it s not okay.

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