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I appreciate paying 20 bucks for Mediocre Garbage that cant even kill in 5 shots within 6meters 90% of the time 🙂 Like its hilarious I can have the barrel of a shotgun revolver in someones chest and 2 tap them and they dont die despite not even doing more than 5 damage per shot over 8meters.    On that note, how come Im 3 shotting people middle of the chest with Thunder from less than 10meters  and theyre not even lit more than 61m? AMAZING JOB
 

Hell, while were on that subject, the fuck happened to the Nano?? Its so bad now LOL

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3 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

Like its hilarious I can have the barrel of a shotgun revolver in someones chest and 2 tap them

the showstopper has always been a 3stk

 

 

3 hours ago, a Pair of Socks said:

Hell, while were on that subject, the fuck happened to the Nano?? Its so bad now LOL

the nano has not had any changes

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On 5/7/2020 at 5:43 PM, 404 said:

the showstopper has always been a 3stk

 

 

the nano has not had any changes

6 shots at 15 meters ;|

 

it's "3 shot" if the gun is phsyically in their throat, The blowtorch actually kills faster than a thunder.

 

I agree with that laundry basket over there, Thunder's shit now (market value has dropped 3-4 million since the "totattly not a nerf"

 

, nano's been unchanged for ages apb's registry is just gettin worse i guess.

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2 hours ago, Zolerox said:

6 shots at 15 meters ;|

 

it's "3 shot" if the gun is phsyically in their throat, The blowtorch actually kills faster than a thunder.

 

I agree with that laundry basket over there, Thunder's shit now (market value has dropped 3-4 million since the "totattly not a nerf"

 

, nano's been unchanged for ages apb's registry is just gettin worse i guess.

Well the only nerf nano needed was provided years ago where they gave it an extra shot to kill. It used to be way worse. 
The Golden ACT still rocks though, that and the .45 AP are the only secondaries you'll ever need. Bonus points for Flare gun.

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13 hours ago, Spherii said:

Well the only nerf nano needed was provided years ago where they gave it an extra shot to kill. It used to be way worse. 
The Golden ACT still rocks though, that and the .45 AP are the only secondaries you'll ever need. Bonus points for Flare gun.

Golden ACT44 makes my Rsa angry too damn accurate,

 

Firework's better Prettier too. (.45 ap shoots too fast for a "magnum")

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While your points are flawed i do agree that the showstopper is borderline useless atm. Sure it CAN 3 shot, but you have to be inside the person you’re aiming at, as well as land all the pellets. And if youre more than melee length away, expect to use a whole mag or more. The thumper is suffering from the same problem, while yes it was slighty OP before the nerf, its also reached a state of being useless.

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On 5/7/2020 at 6:24 AM, a Pair of Socks said:

I appreciate paying 20 bucks for Mediocre Garbage that cant even kill in 5 shots within 6meters 90% of the time 🙂 Like its hilarious I can have the barrel of a shotgun revolver in someones chest and 2 tap them and they dont die despite not even doing more than 5 damage per shot over 8meters.    On that note, how come Im 3 shotting people middle of the chest with Thunder from less than 10meters  and theyre not even lit more than 61m? AMAZING JOB
 

Hell, while were on that subject, the fuck happened to the Nano?? Its so bad now LOL

 

28 minutes ago, Dezire said:

While your points are flawed i do agree that the showstopper is borderline useless atm. Sure it CAN 3 shot, but you have to be inside the person you’re aiming at, as well as land all the pellets. And if youre more than melee length away, expect to use a whole mag or more. The thumper is suffering from the same problem, while yes it was slighty OP before the nerf, its also reached a state of being useless.

 

Totally agree.. except for the nano isnt unchanged, suffer more from rng/bloom as all automatic than non-auto secondary in APB, you have just get a bad Rng lately...

 

The "normal thunder" deserved a nerf, at the beginning the low TTK and pellet spread make it  such as strong or slighlty superior to CQC primary weapon specialist such as JG, CSG, Nfas etc... so no total sense, just I dont like the same politics drop a new weapon, make it OP-sell a lot- NERF- weapon send to get dust in the locker.

 

Maybe increasing the TTK to 0.80/0.85 s and revert the pellet spread (slightly) as before, it may remake it viable as before.

 

The showstopper was ok after the first nerf, now is A LITTLE TOO RNG,  I dont get it why and who got the idea for change it again..

 

If someone want a good CQC secondary and have gunslinger maxed, TRY THIS BEAST HERE ,until 10m you will not regreat the CHOICE to switch to it XD https://apbdb.com/items/Weapon_Pistol_NFA9_PR1

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Heh.

 

Just proves once again that LO can't handle shotguns. Just revert them already, PLEASE.

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i thought everyone knew this by now release OP gun and later nerf it 😛

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2 hours ago, Deadliest said:

i thought everyone knew this by now release OP gun and later nerf it 😛

HUE, you are so bad, let me just some hopes for (good one -.-) weapon rebalacing at least...

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Lol. The other day I've put 4 perfect shots into someone at 15 meters, died and got 25 assist. Trash gun

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9 hours ago, Deadliest said:

i thought everyone knew this by now release OP gun and later nerf it 😛

? Nonsense they would never do that, That was g1's tactic

 

*Starts listing legendaries*

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NFA feels more reliable than the showstopper snub pistol. It's really sad. What used to be fairly reliable kills sub 5m, and 4-6 hits up to 7-8m, now struggles to get +60 with 4 hits at 5m. I thought it  was just me or hitreg, but if other's have noticed this then i'm glad it wasn't just in my head

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10 hours ago, Noob_Guardian said:

NFA feels more reliable than the showstopper snub pistol. It's really sad. What used to be fairly reliable kills sub 5m, and 4-6 hits up to 7-8m, now struggles to get +60 with 4 hits at 5m. I thought it  was just me or hitreg, but if other's have noticed this then i'm glad it wasn't just in my head

I have to tell the nfa9 is not so bad, especially nfa9 barrakuda (u will unlock when maxed/almost maxed gunslinger role) is really good in close ranges, these little more shots give the balance it need for become complete.

Strange almost no one talk about it, until 7/8 m may give a HARD COMPETITION to really strong CQC specialist weapons such as PMG or JG.

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7 minutes ago, PingOVER9000 said:

Strange almost no one talk about it

probably because its pretty bad

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14 minutes ago, 404 said:

probably because its pretty bad

Make me laugh at the though that last time in aslyum as load out I was using nfa9+ sniper, I made it 30+kill each matchup just with the Nfa9 against people using PMG, JG etc and all server blame me I was cheating.

I admit that day I was pretty lucky but tell it is bad collide with the fact the nfa9 make me surpraisngly happy those old days XD

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Just now, PingOVER9000 said:

asylum

everything is good in fc

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6 hours ago, 404 said:

everything is good in fc

not everything, and it really depends on whether your opp team is stacked or not.

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On 5/7/2020 at 6:24 AM, lIlIiliIlIiliiIIiliIlIiiIIIiliII said:

I appreciate paying 20 bucks for Mediocre Garbage that cant even kill in 5 shots within 6meters 90% of the time 🙂 Like its hilarious I can have the barrel of a shotgun revolver in someones chest and 2 tap them and they dont die despite not even doing more than 5 damage per shot over 8meters.    On that note, how come Im 3 shotting people middle of the chest with Thunder from less than 10meters  and theyre not even lit more than 61m? AMAZING JOB
 

Hell, while were on that subject, the fuck happened to the Nano?? Its so bad now LOL

Imagine people getting ### after purchase the most useless Sniper/DMR bundle Death and Taxes, or god, waste 10k JT on them

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On 5/7/2020 at 12:24 AM, Guest said:

I appreciate paying 20 bucks for Mediocre Garbage that cant even kill in 5 shots within 6meters 90% of the time 🙂 Like its hilarious I can have the barrel of a shotgun revolver in someones chest and 2 tap them and they dont die despite not even doing more than 5 damage per shot over 8meters.    On that note, how come Im 3 shotting people middle of the chest with Thunder from less than 10meters  and theyre not even lit more than 61m? AMAZING JOB
 

Hell, while were on that subject, the fuck happened to the Nano?? Its so bad now LOL

Nano only got nerfed to an 8 shot a month or so after it came out. It's just not used nowadays because aiming a full auto pistol with 8 stk is harder than tap firing a 6stk pistol with the same ttk. Plus the .45 got added to the game and made anything that isn't an fbw for mobility, or .45, fr0g, or nfa point blank, obsolete because of its easy to hit .8 ttk.

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Thunder was clearly too strong for a secondary, it was competing with primary shotguns like CSG , now it definetely seems weaker, but not weak.

 

I think people are expecting  way too much from a secondary.

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