Helix Reloaded 101 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Kitty Yekaterina said: The most sexist insult there is. An insult referring ONLY and specifically to women, yeah well you're a d!ck. Edited April 5, 2020 by Helix Reloaded 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Crusadeer 24 Posted April 5, 2020 woke nation brah Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AsgerLund 1245 Posted April 5, 2020 Woah, look at the CEO hard-farming points with his buddies... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
qsn 113 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) Oh Jesus. Even on forums, you two warriors (Tigrix and Kitty) had to unite and spread bullsh!t. Please, stop. This is the most irrelevant issue I've stumbled upon. Edited April 5, 2020 by Ignas / qsn 2 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pinpuce 100 Posted April 5, 2020 23 hours ago, CookiePuss said: Forum rules are different than in-game rules. Not defending either rule set, just saying they are different. So much for simple. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Poperon 139 Posted April 5, 2020 I miss the old times where the only thing people would cry about would be the "end of this game". Those at least guaranteed a good laugh or even good memes... 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kingley 11 Posted April 5, 2020 14 minutes ago, Poperon said: I miss the old times where the only thing people would cry about would be the "end of this game". Those at least guaranteed a good laugh or even good memes... I would say that this whole thread is a pretty good meme. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
claude 220 Posted April 5, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 7:38 AM, Tigrix said: Isn't using a word as w-h-o-r-e in a reward title in your game, sort of the same as blue-printing it as an okay word to throw around? I mean most kids are very susceptible to reading the language and usage of it, in their surroundings and if the game company itself is okay'ing such language, ok boomer Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 2992 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) APB has worse things than the word w ho re in a title. Also sIut shaming and wh ore shaming needs to become a thing again. Edited April 5, 2020 by NotZombieBiscuit Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rebelliousness 84 Posted April 5, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 6:38 AM, Tigrix said: Isn't using a word as w-h-o-r-e in a reward title in your game, sort of the same as blue-printing it as an okay word to throw around? I mean most kids are very susceptible to reading the language and usage of it, in their surroundings and if the game company itself is okay'ing such language, then why would any players feel it's wrong tossing that term around in chat when arguing with other players? o.O Trust me, I hate the whole WOKE movement and I think it's gone completely berserk, like a pendulum swinging completely opposite spectrum of balance...... but in this case I feel like it's absolutely the wrong signal to send to your playerbase. Comic fact: I can't type that word on these forums because it's censored... the irony.@MattScott [edit added for clarity] >> Reveal hidden contents Firstly, since LO took over APB, they've inherited the game "as-is", by all definitions and standards, that's the outcome of taking over an active project. All the mature stuff that is in APB, is taken as-is and personally as I already made clear with my reply to Kyoki, there's IMHO nothing wrong in tough language, aka "fuck" or "suck" or w/e examples. That's APB, that's the mature rating. I don't see anything derogatory insulting in the word "fuck". Anyway, LO inherited APB as-is and right away made a very clear point of wanting to ASAP update the eula to their "own standards" (if you dig among the first posts of LO, this was the primary first topics). All good so far yes? Aka, they've shown responsibility imo so far. They take a pride in the work they do and they understand that they're the ones in charge and being looked up to in a certain way for "whats okay and whats not okay". They made a big point of wanting to re-establish in-game moderation (active GM's partaking in chat and actually warning/moderating for TOS violations). All good so far yes? Ok, so LO imo so far has made good strides to try and turn this community around to a more positive and shall we say... functional one. I'm not saying they've done any miracles or anything, ofc not ... but they've definitely improved the community IMO, since they took over. (Yes LO, this is a compliment, i'm not just bashing you guys). In fact, my post about this specific derogatory word being randomly tossed into the game as a reward title, should show how much I've come to respect LO for their stances and their attempts at bettering the community via rules and moderation/GM's etc etc. It's IMO disappointing that they in this way joke with their own TOS, because it sends the wrong signal to people who look for excuses and greenlights to insult others with this type of derogatory language. I think Matt understand that and I really doubt he had a hand in this or was aware of it going out. I guess we will wait and see. I remember back in the day when Tiggs had GMs in district banning people for profanity. There was an old video (hilarious BTW) which had recorded all the provoking profanities which the pedestrians call us in-game... which included stuff people were getting bans for. I think there's a fine line in an 18+ game were profanity becomes deliberately and persistently toxic and abusive... and other times it's just rude commentary. As always bans for abusiveness are warranted but you can get so extreme you ban the entire playerbase... I believe FFbans (which included subsumed G1 moderation was something like 14,000+ that's just game-killing and dumb.) In a simulated kill game I think players need to have a certain level of thicker skin... while moderation in-game with temp kicks for persistent or targeted abusiveness would do wonders for improving behavior. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Catgorl 67 Posted April 5, 2020 You're giving this word the power you desperately want taken away by actively trying to censor it. It is by rendering it common and vulgar that it loses it's power, singling it out makes it a bigger deal. Offensive words are like trolls. The only way they'll go away is to rise above and ignore them, otherwise they just grow stronger. 4 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
doggo 1 Posted April 5, 2020 I haven't cringed this hard in awhile, Thanks! 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Deftonez 113 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) On 4/4/2020 at 7:38 AM, Tigrix said: Isn't using a word as w-h-o-r-e in a reward title in your game, sort of the same as blue-printing it as an okay word to throw around? I mean most kids are very susceptible to reading the language and usage of it, in their surroundings and if the game company itself is okay'ing such language, then why would any players feel it's wrong tossing that term around in chat when arguing with other players? o.O Trust me, I hate the whole WOKE movement and I think it's gone completely berserk, like a pendulum swinging completely opposite spectrum of balance...... but in this case I feel like it's absolutely the wrong signal to send to your playerbase. Comic fact: I can't type that word on these forums because it's censored... the irony.@MattScott [edit added for clarity] >> Reveal hidden contents Firstly, since LO took over APB, they've inherited the game "as-is", by all definitions and standards, that's the outcome of taking over an active project. All the mature stuff that is in APB, is taken as-is and personally as I already made clear with my reply to Kyoki, there's IMHO nothing wrong in tough language, aka "fuck" or "suck" or w/e examples. That's APB, that's the mature rating. I don't see anything derogatory insulting in the word "fuck". Anyway, LO inherited APB as-is and right away made a very clear point of wanting to ASAP update the eula to their "own standards" (if you dig among the first posts of LO, this was the primary first topics). All good so far yes? Aka, they've shown responsibility imo so far. They take a pride in the work they do and they understand that they're the ones in charge and being looked up to in a certain way for "whats okay and whats not okay". They made a big point of wanting to re-establish in-game moderation (active GM's partaking in chat and actually warning/moderating for TOS violations). All good so far yes? Ok, so LO imo so far has made good strides to try and turn this community around to a more positive and shall we say... functional one. I'm not saying they've done any miracles or anything, ofc not ... but they've definitely improved the community IMO, since they took over. (Yes LO, this is a compliment, i'm not just bashing you guys). In fact, my post about this specific derogatory word being randomly tossed into the game as a reward title, should show how much I've come to respect LO for their stances and their attempts at bettering the community via rules and moderation/GM's etc etc. It's IMO disappointing that they in this way joke with their own TOS, because it sends the wrong signal to people who look for excuses and greenlights to insult others with this type of derogatory language. I think Matt understand that and I really doubt he had a hand in this or was aware of it going out. I guess we will wait and see. Edited April 5, 2020 by Deftonez 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dr0zone 15 Posted April 5, 2020 im gonna be honest, when i learned i could have a pink floating WHXRE title on my toon, i got excited 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristmasElf 15 Posted April 5, 2020 (edited) I am a wh-0r3 and im offended by this thread. Edited April 5, 2020 by ChristmasElf 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Warspite 23 Posted April 5, 2020 53 minutes ago, dr0zone said: im gonna be honest, when i learned i could have a pink floating WHXRE title on my toon, i got excited I had the same thought when I read you could get it. Honestly the only real reason aside from easy joker tickets that I tried the easter event. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hansner 22 Posted April 5, 2020 Damn, I missed all this drama 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gro 83 Posted April 6, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 6:38 PM, Tigrix said: Call me sensitive but... You are. 2 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrandonBranderson 658 Posted April 6, 2020 On 4/4/2020 at 7:38 AM, Tigrix said: Isn't using a word as w-h-o-r-e in a reward title in your game, sort of the same as blue-printing it as an okay word to throw around? I mean most kids are very susceptible to reading the language and usage of it, in their surroundings and if the game company itself is okay'ing such language, then why would any players feel it's wrong tossing that term around in chat when arguing with other players? o.O Trust me, I hate the whole WOKE movement and I think it's gone completely berserk, like a pendulum swinging completely opposite spectrum of balance...... but in this case I feel like it's absolutely the wrong signal to send to your playerbase. Comic fact: I can't type that word on these forums because it's censored... the irony.@MattScott [edit added for clarity] >> Reveal hidden contents Firstly, since LO took over APB, they've inherited the game "as-is", by all definitions and standards, that's the outcome of taking over an active project. All the mature stuff that is in APB, is taken as-is and personally as I already made clear with my reply to Kyoki, there's IMHO nothing wrong in tough language, aka "fuck" or "suck" or w/e examples. That's APB, that's the mature rating. I don't see anything derogatory insulting in the word "fuck". Anyway, LO inherited APB as-is and right away made a very clear point of wanting to ASAP update the eula to their "own standards" (if you dig among the first posts of LO, this was the primary first topics). All good so far yes? Aka, they've shown responsibility imo so far. They take a pride in the work they do and they understand that they're the ones in charge and being looked up to in a certain way for "whats okay and whats not okay". They made a big point of wanting to re-establish in-game moderation (active GM's partaking in chat and actually warning/moderating for TOS violations). All good so far yes? Ok, so LO imo so far has made good strides to try and turn this community around to a more positive and shall we say... functional one. I'm not saying they've done any miracles or anything, ofc not ... but they've definitely improved the community IMO, since they took over. (Yes LO, this is a compliment, i'm not just bashing you guys). In fact, my post about this specific derogatory word being randomly tossed into the game as a reward title, should show how much I've come to respect LO for their stances and their attempts at bettering the community via rules and moderation/GM's etc etc. It's IMO disappointing that they in this way joke with their own TOS, because it sends the wrong signal to people who look for excuses and greenlights to insult others with this type of derogatory language. I think Matt understand that and I really doubt he had a hand in this or was aware of it going out. I guess we will wait and see. One of Gumball's pre-mission jokes implies that he would let you fuck his sister (if he had one) and his dog if you won the mission. This game isn't for kids. Censoring games based on "Think of the children!" is just an excuse for lazy parents to not be involved with their kids and what they play. 1 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ChristmasElf 15 Posted April 6, 2020 (edited) On 4/4/2020 at 3:30 PM, MattScott said: Hi all, Let me step in here to provide some clarity. First, I want to say that I respect the OP’s opinion. I’m going to disagree in my answer, but I can appreciate the dialog this has raised on this thread. Next, I think it is important to remember that the game itself is rated M and has pre-existing references to prostitution and the term itself. I’m not going to start diluting RTW’s vision for a gritty world with mature themes. As has already been pointed out, the term refers to a male or female, and more importantly the title was meant to be more of a joke than anything since it refers to candy on Easter rather than prostitution. This is a case where I do think the OP is taking this a bit too seriously. Having said that, if you don’t approve of the term, you have agency on whether to apply the title to yourself or not. Lastly, the forums are PG-13, and have always had different rules than the game. Previous management felt the need to blacklist the term here, which I’ll respect for the time being. Thanks, Matt Do not give atention to justice warriors, silence justice warriors if you want your game healthy. When you notice they will be fill forums and game with them complaining for every little thing pushing agenda they dont even understand. Edited April 6, 2020 by ChristmasElf Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MurkTheMerc 111 Posted April 9, 2020 yo, just use /block and /report smh Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fruitini 11 Posted April 9, 2020 (edited) There is a legit tooltip in the loading screen or used to be that mentioned using Voip to trash talk talk the enemy Edited April 9, 2020 by Fruitini Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Outofmyway 39 Posted April 10, 2020 (edited) People are offended by everything lately. Even on a Rated mature online game. There always has to be a reason to complain or whine about something because our opinion has to be the most important one, and should be shared and followed by the whole world. Edited April 10, 2020 by Outofmyway Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5193 Posted April 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Outofmyway said: People are offended by everything lately. Even on a Rated mature online game. There always has to be a reason to complain or whine about something because our opinion has to be the most important one, and should be shared and followed by the whole world. Lol millenials go QQ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites