Nivo 13 Posted March 4, 2020 .45 is pretty lethal l, still do love the fbw though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5268 Posted March 4, 2020 (edited) Both have their strengths and drawbacks. 45 has ttk and range advantage, but 5stk and a 7 round mag, and by 40m (max damage range) it gets a bit RNG-y FBW you get 15 fucking shots per mag, (only needing 6) and its plenty accurate for its intended range Edited March 4, 2020 by CookiePuss 3 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WorldDominator 61 Posted March 4, 2020 Once you get the hang of the .45, it is by far the most satisfying side arm to ttk enemies with and it has that high risk high reward factor which makes it more fun and clutchy. Personally I've been using the .45 ever since it came out and never felt the need to choose the fbw over it anytime. Fbw on the other hand is kinda boring and too easy/risk free yet a good fbw player will almost always lose to a good/consistent .45 player because of how those two guns perform. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
glaciers 5970 Posted March 4, 2020 i use the fbw because i’m not a big owner 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtdred 227 Posted March 4, 2020 If you're a low latency player, get the .45. If you're a high latency player, get obeya fbw. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotZombieBiscuit 3138 Posted March 4, 2020 I don't know why, but I feel like an idiot trying to use the FBW. it is just the one gun that despite how many times I've tried throughout APB I just can't use it. This also extends to going against it. Someone pulls out an FBW? My brain turns to mush and I die every time. Kryptonite. I love the .45 though. 1 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Salvick 248 Posted March 4, 2020 1 hour ago, CookiePuss said: Both have their strengths and drawbacks. 45 has ttk and range advantage, but 5stk and a 7 round mag, and by 40m (max damage range) it gets a bit RNG-y FBW you get 15 fucking shots per mag, (only needing 6) and its plenty accurate for its intended range I think also the main feature of the .45 is its quick time to equip, making it specially useful in some specific combinations of weapons. But correct me if I'm wrong. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs 131 Posted March 4, 2020 45 equip slower than the fbw i like the fbw cause i can kill multiple players at once with it. .45 is nice if you have capped/high fps and low latency Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CookiePuss 5268 Posted March 4, 2020 33 minutes ago, safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs said: 45 is nice if you have capped/high fps and low latency well heck, all guns are nicer with good fps and low latency 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RCooper 177 Posted March 4, 2020 FBW is free so best gun Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Uhtdred 227 Posted March 4, 2020 no clue why people downvoted me for saying .45 is better with low latency than fbw. It's a fact. i always say the same, in the past I played hoplon with 50ms and now i play USA with 170-190ms. when I played hoplon, my main guns were carbine and .45 (with 50ms). now that I play in USA, my main guns are ursus, obeya fbw and obeya cr762 (with 150+ms). Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gothina 22 Posted March 4, 2020 ACT44 Golden Marksman PR1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nivo 13 Posted March 4, 2020 5 minutes ago, Gothina said: ACT44 Golden Marksman PR1 Gtfo you’re drunk. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KnifuWaifu 499 Posted March 4, 2020 no love for the snubby Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Noob_Guardian 401 Posted March 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Salvick said: I think also the main feature of the .45 is its quick time to equip, making it specially useful in some specific combinations of weapons. But correct me if I'm wrong. that's the fr0g. .45 has ttk advantage .45 and fr0g, can't go back to fbw. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Flaws 1007 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) .45 AP is definitely better if you have the aim required for it so for a good player, it is the superior choice. The FBW is just the easy way to go but it's ttk is higher. I still do think that the FBW is too easy. You have the mobility that secondaries carry so you can strafe and jiggle everywhere (as you don't ADS with it). You have 15 shots where you only need to hit 6 which not only means that you can miss all day long but if you don't miss, you can take out two players with one mag. It's very accurate for it's 30m drop off range, it's very spammy and it takes no skill to handle it since it has no real recoil, nothing to recover from etc. Then you also have the Sight Zero variant of the FBW which gives it RS1 and takes it's hipfire accuracy ever so slightly higher. It's an unpopular opinion but I'd go as far as to say that the FBW needs a slight nerf in some regard. It's literally a pocket carbine that you can spam when you can't handle your primary in tighter situations. .45 AP is my choice definitely. Edit: In regards to the latency argument, I still used to play .45 AP on NA when I still had 160ms there and owned with it (so I'd say it's still perfectly capable if you have the aim for it) Edited March 5, 2020 by Flaws Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
illgot 378 Posted March 5, 2020 15 hours ago, CookiePuss said: well heck, all guns are nicer with good fps and low latency but if you miss a few shots with the .45 you basically have to reload. You could miss the majority of FBW shots and still kill without reloading. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EvaPooh 296 Posted March 5, 2020 As an OBIR player, 1 burst + .45 = Mmmmmmmm. ^^ Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mitne 685 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) I usually make sure I got some cover to reload but .45 is better in my opinion. FBW is good if you are veteran of Joker Carbines tho. Edited March 5, 2020 by Mitne Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KyoukiDotExe 222 Posted March 5, 2020 Back in the older days I used to use .45 a LOT but switching over to FBW for the longest time I can remember now. I am used to the FBW and prefer it over the .45 over the movement it gives you, the .45 pretty much requires you to be very static, precise and fast. 1 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Havana 216 Posted March 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Flaws said: .45 AP is definitely better if you have the aim required for it so for a good player, it is the superior choice. The FBW is just the easy way to go but it's ttk is higher. I still do think that the FBW is too easy. You have the mobility that secondaries carry so you can strafe and jiggle everywhere (as you don't ADS with it). You have 15 shots where you only need to hit 6 which not only means that you can miss all day long but if you don't miss, you can take out two players with one mag. It's very accurate for it's 30m drop off range, it's very spammy and it takes no skill to handle it since it has no real recoil, nothing to recover from etc. Then you also have the Sight Zero variant of the FBW which gives it RS1 and takes it's hipfire accuracy ever so slightly higher. It's an unpopular opinion but I'd go as far as to say that the FBW needs a slight nerf in some regard. It's literally a pocket carbine that you can spam when you can't handle your primary in tighter situations. .45 AP is my choice definitely. Edit: In regards to the latency argument, I still used to play .45 AP on NA when I still had 160ms there and owned with it (so I'd say it's still perfectly capable if you have the aim for it) PLEASE GOD nerf that spammy trash FBW. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NotTheEnforcer 175 Posted March 5, 2020 On 3/4/2020 at 10:35 AM, NotZombieBiscuit said: I don't know why, but I feel like an idiot trying to use the FBW. it is just the one gun that despite how many times I've tried throughout APB I just can't use it. This also extends to going against it. Someone pulls out an FBW? My brain turns to mush and I die every time. Kryptonite. I love the .45 though. Same. Its that one gun I was never able to learn and baffles me when I see people (and myself) getting clapped by it. The .45 and my NFA are nice tho lol, nothing like a good mini-brrrt point blank Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Parthian 344 Posted March 5, 2020 Jag föredrar FBW eftersom att man har råd att missa lite mer bulor än med .45. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs 131 Posted March 5, 2020 id like a range buff on the frog. its like an fbw and .45 put together 2 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PingOVER9000 107 Posted March 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, safdfsgkjhdgsjkhs said: id like a range buff on the frog. its like an fbw and .45 put together I like the idea, but I have like the sensation if they just add something like +10/15m (the actual range for damage drop off is 10m) it will be a little OP.. but in my weak opinion It will be widely more competitive or meta if it's range is 13/15 m... If u want use a secondary that is something close to OVERPOWERED from 0-7m, this BEAST has never let me disappointed https://apbdb.com/items/Weapon_Pistol_NFA9_PR1/ Edited March 5, 2020 by PingOVER9000 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites