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  1. On 9/19/2021 at 9:12 PM, SHEMER said:

    Today I noticed that there are a lot of high-ranking players with a silver threat level. And I got an idea. Maybe add another layer of threat? Platinum. This will help balance the skill of the teams.

    I have a low skill level, I am a gilded silver player. There are players with great skill. They are like professional athletes. And all the other players are amateurs. I think they deserve a separate threat level - platinum.

    How does this suggestion still pop up in 2021?

    I swear this forum is like an existence running in it's own time. Be gone for a decade and you will come back as if nothing happened.

     

    Or is it proof that new players are still joining :classic_ninja:


  2. 12 hours ago, Flaws said:

    People change and people grow, believe it or not.

    I do believe that people can. But that was never really the issue.

    They can earn second chances and they can be given second chances, but they do not have the right to persist to be granted them from each and everyone.

    Damage has been done, the enjoyment and time of many people are wasted by cheating on a daily basis. This is time people won't get back.

    And while some may contribute more or less than others it is the combined total that ultimately leads to vast grievances of the general playerbase.

     

    I imagine a good start for showing remorse would be to not call people "silvers" when they rightfully point out those past missteps.

    From my experience showing acceptance instead of trying to denunciate their objections leads far more often to goodwill and a dropping of the matter.

    I understand it can be frustrating not being forgiven while actively trying and showing best intentions but sometimes it is just to late for some and one has to accept that too.

    It will take strength to remain true to their new proclaimed person through all that but if one really has changed or wants to it is part of that growing.

     

    Also APB being such a small community means it's not your general cs mm cheater that you will report and never see again (banned or not).

    Sometimes you met these individuals every other day, got downright mocked. I would very much differentiate in the weight of such cases.

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  3. My apologies.

    Didn't know pointing out the hypocrisy of a pathological cheater who himself has admitted to have cheated in more than one occasion in more than one game was against the rules.

    That's not an accusation, but simply had to be mentioned for context but I understand the urge to keep this all under wraps for good looks. Keep living with the consequences. 🙂

     

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  4. Very easy.

     

    The major reason as to why I rarely touched this for over two years now - is the community.

     

    Seeing who established themselves in that time, I'm just not willing to look past things.

     

    Don't get me wrong, there are some cool dudes I've met over the years but it's just not worth it to start APB to meet up.

    There are so many other games for that where I don't cross vermin on a daily basis.


  5. 1 hour ago, greenfield said:

    I doubt it was the case here. I can't image 1 scenario where APB would be put in that position.

    As per me, G1 was just seeking for additional revenue, but miscalculating a dozens of factors. 

    Pretty sure that was what was officially forwarded by G1 when talking about the deal with DS and the console versions.

    Can't give you the quotes since old forum and such but feel free to believe what you want.


  6. 35 minutes ago, MrChan said:

    What is this sad obsession people have with minutiae like login screens and the ambient music in the background when you're on the login screen?

     

    Literally the least of this game's problems.

    The real sad thing is that apparently you've never been able to embrace the joy of it yourself. There are no words that could possible describe it.

    One can only hope that one day you may stumble upon the right path.

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  7. 7 hours ago, wHisHi said:

    What about oscar?

    If you miss atleast one time, you are in trouble and its quite easy to miss. Oscar requires skill

    Ah, yes because everyone else always hits every shot against a mobility weapon, especially since barely any other gun can compare to its accuracy which means less rng for hits.

    Oscar is one of those guns, the better the player, the better the gun. It was my personal nightmare in the hands of a cheater.

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  8. 21 hours ago, claude said:

    people who disagree with your opinions can no longer do so with just a press of a button, which forces people to engage in discussions.

    if the person says something dumb like "everyone i play against is cheating, waaah" then they'll get roasted. if someone has a hot take and you disagree with it, you have to engage with the person who disagrees with you, unless you don't care enough to reply to them, then you just move on.

    Yes, that's what I denounced the change for since you could move on by leaving a "dislike" without having to engage into a pointless discussion.

    There is to differentiate between a discussion of value where it is a matter of opinion (both parties have a valid perspective) and then the "discussion" where one party is simply wrong. 

    The latter is the one which got usually shot down by dislikes and perceived as harassment by the creator when they could simply not handle their own ego.

    That is not an abuse of the system but just people growing tired talking to a wall.

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    if you disagree with someone and you aren't willing or able to whip up a reply that supports your thoughts against their opinion, you should really question how confident you really are about your position.

    Completely missed the point. I said it doesn't matter how fundamentally correct your reply is and how supportive your arguments are when they are simply being ignored.

    I know what you're getting at and and I generally agree with you under the pretext that both parties can hold a discussion while being open to reason.

    e.g. how do you handle someone that always thinks they are right?

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    i dont think the removal of a dislike button will change the frequency at which someone accuses half of the playerbase of cheating, accuses LO of banning (name) for "no reason," accusing LO of not knowing wtf they're doing, accusing LO of running the game into the ground, or claims that APB is *OFFICIALLY* dead because <steamcharts link>.

     

    it's simple... if you disagree with someone, tell them why, and if the reason you gave them isn't supported by anything beyond anecdotal evidence that seems sorta cringe, then you're probably wrong and they're probably right. the people that relied on a dislike button to express a disagreement with someone will leave, while the people who actually want to discuss apb stuff will stay.

    Could be that you're right, maybe there won't be a change but I think that individuals that see themselves approved by only receiving "likes" when all the "dislikes" cease tend to escalate things because there was just no one there to put an end to it. I'm closing in on a decade of surfing these forums and there comes a point where I prefer to click that dislike button instead of typing the same thing for the hundredths time, especially when it is towards the same person. Someone who doesn't accept the result from their last discussion which was to their displeasure and then start anew are not interested in a discussion. Do that often enough and the only people left are the ones that agree. Not because they are right but because they won through attrition.

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    so you hate the idea of a dislike button being removed, but you'd prefer to have a dislike button and just banning people who abuse it? how can you tell whether someone is disliking in bad faith? you cant.

    Where did i say ban? Simply revoke the rights. It's pretty easy to tell when someone intentionally goes on a "dislike-spree" in someones past comments.

     

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    debating a flat earther is the biggest waste of time ever, so what do you do? you ignore it. unless you want to engage in such a stupid conversation, then do it, but if a flat earther comes more prepared to the discussion than you have, then they WILL prove you wrong. there are people who spend an insane amount of time in learning about flat earth theories/conspiracies, which is why they're confident enough to discuss it. if you say to them "lol but what about gravity" they're just gonna own you with some insanely cringe in-depth tinfoil hatter logic that you don't know anything about, so you can't actually prove them wrong without studying it yourself.

     

    if you cant ignore people who are super wrong about something, and you have to express how much you disagree with them, you should be able to back up why you disagree with them. if you need to rely on a button for that, you shouldn't be engaging in discussions at all because your input isn't relevant.

    Pretty much full circle, what if you do all that?

    You come well prepared, your arguments are sound, your sources are valid and scientifically proven, you disassemble their point and show them their flaws.

    But instead of progress they repeat the same thing and you're left running circles. That's not a discussion. So, yes, pretty please, a dislike button so one can see at one glimpse that the
    overall opinion is that the idea is rubbish.

    It could also be that someone else already shot down the argument with points I agree with. So adding a dislike to the main post to support/oppose ads the same relevant input as repeating the same argument in an extra post below. Remove the dislikes and you have no idea about the actual census until fully dissecting the thread.

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  9. 20 minutes ago, Sakebee said:

    I had a bit of a discussion about this change earlier. For context, you guys can find my answers there if you are interested: 

     

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    [...] Having an explanation if someone disagrees rather than an anonymous downvote makes for a much healthier environment for everyone involved.

    Not sure what's healthy about someone saying the earth is flat then ignoring all reason brought forth leading to a pointless back and forth.

    Just dropping a "dislike" and moving on seems like a lot less friction. I am just not sure you will be happy with the "community interaction" to come.


  10. I dislike the change because it enables certain people to reign free. 

    We know words will be met with deaf ears, or per see blind eyes, and "dislikes" were an easy to understand medium for these individuals. 

    Can't wait to see what happens to the forums when these topics keep spreading and people grow tired of pointlessly replying to those stupid suggestions.

    What's left will be all the idiots enforcing each other in their bogus since no sane person will be left over.

     

    Instead of regulating the bad apples and taking away the crayons from the abusers we are left with a doomed carebear system.

     

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  11. 2 hours ago, Nafryti said:

    yes i totally plagiarized the logo on second monitor from google image search, literally just "CTRL C - CTRL V'd" that shit, omg you busted me *holds up hands together* you gonna cuff me? :3 ... -.- thats what i thought now if you don't mind, gtfo.

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    Re-creating a visual work in a different medium or mixing/altering copyrighted images even if done so in an original way can both be plagiarism.

    Just because you don't copy&paste directly doesn't mean it's not stolen. While not cuffing I will certainly call you out on your hypocrisy mister "creator".

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