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All it does is output a text line in chat anyway. :^)



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ive never seen anyone complain about it on the forums (which i assume they would do since this is apb)

 

but there definitely should be, even if the /report function is just a placebo


 
                                                                          
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/report is only seen from the client's point of view so as far as I'm concerned there shouldn't be any consequences with it.

 

Maybe decrease your report's relevancies if you report innocent reports too many times.


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well it doesn't have limits, you can report the same person over and over again.

idk what happens does it clogged up the system?

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why would there be, i doubt it's what ff bases their scans mostly on, i guess it just "moves accounts higher up" in priority for scans by giving them more flags, which would be irrelevant if there weren't any other flags.
not like it causes (much) more work for anyone/thing.

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The only problem with the report function is that it isn't daily limited. It should have a number of uses per day, like 10-15, and then not allow you to report anymore untill the next day. This will force players to think rather if the player truly deserves a report instead of just spamming the command anytime they lose.

 

Also, it would make FF more accurate since there will be less players with many reports, making it faster to check and detect actual cheaters.


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they used to claim there was but... i've seen people on streams spam /report and nothing happens to them lol


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I had to report two people for grifing. Unsure if this constitutes as abuse but these two were abusing my sanity and faith in humanity. Maybe I shouldn't have faulted them for doing APB.

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I had to report two people for grifing. Unsure if this constitutes as abuse but these two were abusing my sanity and faith in humanity. Maybe I shouldn't have faulted them for doing APB.

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They said that spamming reports lowers the importancy of your reports, but deep inside we all know that /report is just a placeholder command to make you feel good.

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they used to claim there was but... i've seen people on streams spam /report and nothing happens to them lol

 

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I reported epicgoat one time, 4 hours later he was still playing so I spammed /report for over 5 minutes. Nothing happened to me, goat got banned like 2 hours later.


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that's not how it works fam

Yeah well since FF has done a wonderful job,IMO, the amount of hackers has been squandered to next to nil.

Sorry if I FairFighted wrong.

Since my return...Again for the umpteenth time...My opposed missions have been enjoyable, save for these two griefing tools.

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Yeah well since FF has done a wonderful job,IMO, the amount of hackers has been squandered to next to nil.
Sorry if I FairFighted wrong.
Since my return...Again for the umpteenth time...My opposed missions have been enjoyable, save for these two griefing tools.

???
fairfight doesn't ban for griefing.
griefing is not hacking.
there is no way to distinguish griefers from normal players.

thus reporting them does nothing (if they weren't cheating too)

i hope those guys in your signature give you a warm welcome. x-d

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fairfight doesn't ban for griefing.
griefing is not hacking.
there is no way to distinguish griefers from normal players.

thus reporting them does nothing (if they weren't cheating too)

i hope those guys in your signature give you a warm welcome. x-d


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Yeah well since FF has done a wonderful job,IMO, the amount of hackers has been squandered to next to nil.

Sorry if I FairFighted wrong.

Since my return...Again for the umpteenth time...My opposed missions have been enjoyable, save for these two griefing tools.

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Can fairfight banned you for going in Restricted Area? I know Battlefield does.

Everyone would be FF'd at this point if FF banned for that.


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if /report actually wasted staff members' time then a penalty for its misuse could be issued. i find it hard to believe that /report does anything at all, fairfight will catch cheaters if they are cheating. /report command is only there to give paranoid kids a false sense of safety.


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if /report actually wasted staff members' time then a penalty for its misuse could be issued. i find it hard to believe that /report does anything at all, fairfight will catch cheaters if they are cheating. /report command is only there to give paranoid kids a false sense of safety.

 

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Stream sniping will get you banned even though I told him about it to stop he didn't listen so he got hammered.

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/report is a placebo, didn't I said this a couple of times before?
If someone will use self-made cheats then gg FF, he can running blatantly almost forever at current FF state.

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/report is a placebo, didn't I said this a couple of times before?
If someone will use self-made cheats then gg FF, he can running blatantly almost forever at current FF state.

???
this is not how FF works

is that so hard to understand

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why is this even a topic?
who the hell cares?

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why is this even a topic?
who the hell cares?


who knows maybe fairfight system is slow due to the amounts of in game reports.

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I'm 99.99% sure /report is just a placebo line of text that gets generated in your chat to try to slightly reduce your salt levels. 


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Stream sniping will get you banned even though I told him about it to stop he didn't listen so he got hammered.

I think it's a bit silly to ban someone for stream sniping, especially one that's permanent and through FairFight. It kinda questions my thoughts on how G1 uses FF and a system built to eliminate "cheaters" or also players that commit "inappropriate activity".

 

Are you sure stream sniping is bannable and could possible lead you on the FF list? If it really was, we'd see a lot more players banned through FairFight.


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this is not how FF works

is that so hard to understand

So, say it like that
Does FairFight flag a reroll who's making 60/x/x stats each game since he have created his account?
From this account's point of view he is playing "as usual" but in the other side we have closets / ppl who started cheating after they reach certain level etc.
Usually they're making decent stats, rarely above 25-35 kills and since one day they're making 40+ kills most of their time, it may be flagged as "unusual" and will be (most likely) considered by FF if he's cheating or no.

That's only my opinion but seems to be true.

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When I spawn in the district I start from reporting everyone. Just in case.



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I once was using /report many many times then I get a red message You have been silenced by a GM no more /report after that. :(


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So, say it like that
Does FairFight flag a reroll who's making 60/x/x stats each game since he have created his account?
From this account's point of view he is playing "as usual" but in the other side we have closets / ppl who started cheating after they reach certain level etc.
Usually they're making decent stats, rarely above 25-35 kills and since one day they're making 40+ kills most of their time, it may be flagged as "unusual" and will be (most likely) considered by FF if he's cheating or no.
That's only my opinion but seems to be true.

fairfight will just compare the killamounts of a player with those of himself. sure thing? that's nonsense, they will get a flag if their values are too much out of average of all players, however obviously this is not enough, i guess it also has to determine how much they are aiming at a single bone or in general if their aim is like of a human (or if they have LoS or anything when aiming or always walk in the direction of enemies etc etc etc)

oh or do you mean go closet/not blatant unlike you wrote before? you don't need private cheats for that. and finally ff caught closets too (e.g. rainblow, seriously i never would've thought he cheated)

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So, say it like that
Does FairFight flag a reroll who's making 60/x/x stats each game since he have created his account?
From this account's point of view he is playing "as usual" but in the other side we have closets / ppl who started cheating after they reach certain level etc.
Usually they're making decent stats, rarely above 25-35 kills and since one day they're making 40+ kills most of their time, it may be flagged as "unusual" and will be (most likely) considered by FF if he's cheating or no.

That's only my opinion but seems to be true.

 

no because I averaged 65 frags a match of asylum on mastershayke since making it and never got banned

but on isidezz i averaged about 34 or so and got ****d fairly often and got banned

 

neither accounts cheated on so im pretty sure they accidentally misplaced the free g1c lottery winner function with the fairfight ban function

on the contrary i acted like quite the fuzzy bunny so fairly deserving of those hot b's t b h

 

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I once was using /report many many times then I get a red message You have been silenced by a GM no more /report after that. :(

I had that happen onece, my silenced lasted 8 hours, also if you spam the /report too many times the game will kick you for posting too many messages in a short amount of time



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They said that spamming reports lowers the importancy of your reports

 

Yes something like this ^^.  We know who reports who, when they report them and how many times they've reported them/anyone. I'm not able to go into specifics but yes, if you're spamming it will lower your credibility over time. 


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Yes something like this ^^.  We know who reports who, when they report them and how many times they've reported them/anyone. I'm not able to go into specifics but yes, if you're spamming it will lower your credibility over time.


thanks but I prefer to report cheaters with videos by customer support. As the highlights I've shown has 100% credibility the player is cheating and probably continue to go with my own method in reporting.

tiggs you know my credibility is in high standard since you been replying to all my cheat reports thank you.

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Would assume the report function works like a points system.  Obtain X unique points in X time and a staff member will come and actually monitor you and your statistics and would react accordingly.

 

If Fairfight is on auto though, i have no clue how it would work now.  Maybe shifts your priority in the system?


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Yes something like this ^^.  We know who reports who, when they report them and how many times they've reported them/anyone. I'm not able to go into specifics but yes, if you're spamming it will lower your credibility over time. 

 

Then that's plain silly and unfair, because if someone with "low credibility" is asking for help from the staff/admins to monitor someone then he'll keep suffering the consecuences of the staff not caring about him because "this guy is always reporting people"....then 5 months later the suspected reported guy pops up in FairFight while the innocent player with low credibility was right but nobody from the staff cared about him and his concern about the hackers...

 

...you guys really need to scrip a proper built-in anti cheat because cheaters are even streaming while blatanty destroying the last remains of the game and they know exactly what times of the night/day to cheat wihtout caring and then you have the other kind of cheaters who jump into alternative accounts to test how far they can cheat till they are detected so then they can jump back into their main max rank accounts and keep cheating discretely avoiding being banned...

 

 

I don't know and I'm not questioning the way a report is handled but as a suggestion I'd like to point out that everytime someone reports a player the suspected player should be put under review not just for his ingame behaviors but also is needed to check on the multiple accounts they log and if possible check the chat logs of their private messages, many of them use to be very obvious and even admit they're cheating.

 

 

I insist, giving "credibility"  and ignoring reports for those who doesn't have any is harmful for us the clean players who are suffering the consecuences of the lack of built-in anticheat scripts and is not only unfair but also disrespectful.

 

Every single report should be reviewed, in any normal multiplayer game you have admins constantly caring of everything that's going on in the game and they even contact you privately to ask you what is your concern about and why do you suspect a player so the admin can take a look at what you are thinking might be a player cheating.

 

Tiggs, you can't imagine how easy and how longer a player can get if they only cheat with wallhacks and the huge advantage that can be on a Third Person game...trust me, there are players cheating since years this way, a few of them, once they reach max rank on a character then starts to go a bit mor blatant since they know nothing is going to happen to them.


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You're basically saying "we don't care about your reports if you report too often"  and admiting many of our reports are being just ignored letting actual cheaters go away with it, that's rude and actually makes me lost any credibility on this game and its staff.


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