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The issue is, the original idea was to update and re write the game as it was. Then they decided to partner with quick silver and re code the game for x box and playstaion, and with that they were under obligation to release those BEFORE the PC version. 

Now sony is not accepting the game. We have to wait for sony to accept before we get progression on the PC side. So we just get boned 15 different ways while theres a huge lack of communication. 

FOr a company called gamers first they sure do a piss pore job taking care of the gamers. 


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The issue is, the original idea was to update and re write the game as it was. Then they decided to partner with quick silver and re code the game for x box and playstaion, and with that they were under obligation to release those BEFORE the PC version. 

Now sony is not accepting the game. We have to wait for sony to accept before we get progression on the PC side. So we just get boned 15 different ways while theres a huge lack of communication. 

FOr a company called gamers first they sure do a piss pore job taking care of the gamers. 

 

Quick Silver.  G1 is dealing with board sports now.  Jk, anyway....

 

Tiggs confirmed about two weeks ago that the game has been accepted and she just had a meeting with Sony last week to discuss the release date.  The reason this whole problem started was because the studio that Deep Silver assigned to do the console port (The Workshop) failed so hard that they were removed from the project and G1 had to take on all the work that the other studio was supposed to do... Doing something they had no experience with.

 

If The Workshop hadn't f*cked up so badly we would probably already have the engine upgrade because G1 wouldn't have had to spend a year or two making a broken port.  Tiggs didn't even like the decision to release a console version, but she didn't have a say in the matter at the time.



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Quick Silver.  G1 is dealing with board sports now.  Jk, anyway....

 

Tiggs confirmed about two weeks ago that the game has been accepted and she just had a meeting with Sony last week to discuss the release date.  The reason this whole problem started was because the studio that Deep Silver assigned to do the console port (The Workshop) failed so hard that they were removed from the project and G1 had to take on all the work that the other studio was supposed to do... Doing something they had no experience with.

 

If The Workshop hadn't f*cked up so badly we would probably already have the engine upgrade because G1 wouldn't have had to spend a year or two making a broken port.  Tiggs didn't even like the decision to release a console version, but she didn't have a say in the matter at the time.

This is the type of s**t i wish she would spam on the forums, i've never seen her say any of this.


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Quick silver deep silver, i knew it was something silver. Ya even that would have been nice to know. I thought they were still under NDA from deep silver. Why the hell arent they talking if they arent under NDA anymore? 


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Quick silver deep silver, i knew it was something silver. Ya even that would have been nice to know. I thought they were still under NDA from deep silver. Why the hell arent they talking if they arent under NDA anymore? 

lol I know, just messin with ya.  I imagine some things are still not allowed to be talked about, like company relations and fine details and stuff.  But now that the game is released on a console they're able to share MORE info than they could before it was released.  That first part is just an assumption,  But what they've said is that they haven't been updating us with info because they've been working on the console port, for which there isn't anything that hasn't been covered yet.  Judging from what I've played of the Xbox version, the console versions probably won't have all these fancy optimization techniques that the PC EU will have that were mentioned in this blog post.


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didn't tiggs already say there wasn't really anything to say, and that we're just waiting on sony news?

 

christ almighty, people need to just chill out. neediest community i've ever seen tbh


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didn't tiggs already say there wasn't really anything to say, and that we're just waiting on sony news?

christ almighty, people need to just chill out. neediest community i've ever seen tbh

She's the community manager, how can there be nothing to say? Like I said; if there isn't news, make it. Show teasers, update with details regarding the long wait time, allow developers to show us some detailed dev voodo again etc..

Don't forget this community has been waiting since 2014 for an engine upgrade, and even longer for contacts. ofcourse people are going to act like this. If it was only the need, I'd already have stopped playing for ages. It's the way many people, including myself love this game

Edit: Proactive and reactive. I'm just leaving these two words here. See if you can figure out a few situations what go wrong.

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didn't tiggs already say there wasn't really anything to say, and that we're just waiting on sony news?

 

christ almighty, people need to just chill out. neediest community i've ever seen tbh

We have been waiting 3 years. In That 3 years we have had to get information from other sources, rely on the limited info they have given us, or none, beg for info and be meet with silence, and over all be kept in the dark. Coming from a company called gamers first that promised us so much communication we would get sick of it, sure were needy. Needy for them to keep there promises and communicate with there community. Needy for them to finally show they give a crap about the players that are still here clinging to a thread of hope. 


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Instead of news we got PayPal rebate.
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She's the community manager, how can there be nothing to say? Like I said; if there isn't news, make it. Show teasers, update with details regarding the long wait time, allow developers to show us some detailed dev voodo again etc..

Don't forget this community has been waiting since 2014 for an engine upgrade, and even longer for contacts. ofcourse people are going to act like this. If it was only the need, I'd already have stopped playing for ages. It's the way many people, including myself love this game

Edit: Proactive and reactive. I'm just leaving these two words here. See if you can figure out a few situations what go wrong.

 

 

We have been waiting 3 years. In That 3 years we have had to get information from other sources, rely on the limited info they have given us, or none, beg for info and be meet with silence, and over all be kept in the dark. Coming from a company called gamers first that promised us so much communication we would get sick of it, sure were needy. Needy for them to keep there promises and communicate with there community. Needy for them to finally show they give a crap about the players that are still here clinging to a thread of hope. 

 

i've gotten rreaaalllyyy tired with dispelling the same uninformed comments over and over
so instead imagine a potato dancing and just live with that


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She's the community manager, how can there be nothing to say? Like I said; if there isn't news, make it. Show teasers, update with details regarding the long wait time, allow developers to show us some detailed dev voodo again etc..

Don't forget this community has been waiting since 2014 for an engine upgrade, and even longer for contacts. ofcourse people are going to act like this. If it was only the need, I'd already have stopped playing for ages. It's the way many people, including myself love this game

Edit: Proactive and reactive. I'm just leaving these two words here. See if you can figure out a few situations what go wrong.

I agree with this 100%. She needs to do more than post sales on the forums. She has been communicating here and there, but not to the general public. She needs to be making full announcements and letting people know that G1 still exists. Like you said, if there is no news, make some news; I like that.



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At what point can we realistically say, "They could have just started from scratch and made an entirely new version or sequel by now."?

I really feel like if they had decided to do that a long time ago, we'd be further along than we are now? Maybe they don't even have the manpower to do such a thing - I don't know much about their company and what they're able to do over there.

Or is that what the new engine is? Did they scrap everything for this or continue to try and rework the old code? I don't know much about coding or the details of what they're doing. Not even entirely sure what an engine is, lol.

 

The game will (theoritcally) be release on PS4 and after that the engine upgrade will happen for the PC platform. (The PS4 already has the new engine implemented so only the PC players will be the ones that have to deal with the engine upgrade). 

 

Making a new version of the game would've taken them more effort with their team population than the engine upgrade. (Games that are made from scrap are WAAAAY harder to make and take more time and manpower to push out due to aspects of the game being made straight from the ground up) So the most logical thing to do is to port the already existing game to another more better engine in order to make it easier not only to code for the the game but to add features and or items (Armas stuff or just new weapons or mods...hell even new maps even...).

 

imo I dont think they scrapped the idea of re-creating the game, But I doubt that it was their highest priority since like I said before, making the game from ground up was tedious to begin with (Remember RTW shut down? yeah...). Keep in mind that they have a low population team. With that said you can expect that the game would be struggling due to a limited amount of people to work on the game (henceforth why the engine upgrade or even the console releases has dragged on till now). 

 

Im also quoting Kempington when he said "The only reason why they are upgrading the engine for APB is because the engine being used as of now is not optimized for consoles, therefore G1 needed to upgrade the engine in order to have a working port for the consoles. So the only reason why the engine upgrade is happening in the first place is due to the consoles".

 

I hope this helps, and I also hope you didnt get bored of my reply LOL



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Im also quoting Kempington when he said "The only reason why they are upgrading the engine for APB is because the engine being used as of now is not optimized for consoles, therefore G1 needed to upgrade the engine in order to have a working port for the consoles. So the only reason why the engine upgrade is happening in the first place is due to the consoles".

 

I hope this helps, and I also hope you didnt get bored of my reply LOL

pretty sure this isnt true since the engine upgrade project was going on for almost 2 years before any mention of consoles was made

 

not saying that a console port was never considered but i doubt it was the sole driving force behind a 4-going-on-5 year project


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The game will (theoritcally) be release on PS4 and after that the engine upgrade will happen for the PC platform. (The PS4 already has the new engine implemented so only the PC players will be the ones that have to deal with the engine upgrade). 

 

Making a new version of the game would've taken them more effort with their team population than the engine upgrade. (Games that are made from scrap are WAAAAY harder to make and take more time and manpower to push out due to aspects of the game being made straight from the ground up) So the most logical thing to do is to port the already existing game to another more better engine in order to make it easier not only to code for the the game but to add features and or items (Armas stuff or just new weapons or mods...hell even new maps even...).

 

imo I dont think they scrapped the idea of re-creating the game, But I doubt that it was their highest priority since like I said before, making the game from ground up was tedious to begin with (Remember RTW shut down? yeah...). Keep in mind that they have a low population team. With that said you can expect that the game would be struggling due to a limited amount of people to work on the game (henceforth why the engine upgrade or even the console releases has dragged on till now). 

 

Im also quoting Kempington when he said "The only reason why they are upgrading the engine for APB is because the engine being used as of now is not optimized for consoles, therefore G1 needed to upgrade the engine in order to have a working port for the consoles. So the only reason why the engine upgrade is happening in the first place is due to the consoles".

 

I hope this helps, and I also hope you didnt get bored of my reply LOL

RTW shut down due to other issues also they kinda did do a sloppy coding job on the game and its graphics

 

Also Wasnt EA the main parent company of RTW? If so than that should tell you


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RTW shut down due to other issues also they kinda did do a sloppy coding job on the game and its graphics

 

Also Wasnt EA the main parent company of RTW? If so than that should tell you

 

APB was really pretty for an mmo at the time though...  The game still looks decent, but not as good as it did back then.  But yes they shut down due to really bad management within the company, a ton of redundant staff and being way behind schedule and over budget on APB.  EA just published APB, they weren't a parent company or anything.  RTW was its own thing.



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Maybe I was wrong to think we'd get a satisfying response here.


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Maybe I was wrong to think we'd get a satisfying response here.

 

Yeah because in the past they always gave one right? I don't expect PS4 release to happen until the end of this year if it happens at all. Can't believe people are still buying bs , just play the game a little until it completely dies out


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Yeah because in the past they always gave one right? I don't expect PS4 release to happen until the end of this year if it happens at all. Can't believe people are still buying bs , just play the game a little until it completely dies out

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never. tiggers is to retarrdedd to post "news" at this rate APB will be dead within 6 months.


There is a difference between to and too lol too tarded to spell, so I'm thinking it's safe to say you haven't put much thought into your predictions either sooo.... just saying.

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I guess we will have to wait for a a couple of weeks now and hope to get any information then.


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pretty sure this isnt true since the engine upgrade project was going on for almost 2 years before any mention of consoles was made

 

not saying that a console port was never considered but i doubt it was the sole driving force behind a 4-going-on-5 year project

I get what you mean. I agree that consoles werent the "Main" reason but if they were already planning on releasing the game on consoles before then they kinda knew that they had to do something about the game performance for it to even be acceptable in the consoles.

 

So whilst the consoles werent responsible for the engine upgrade concept. They sure as hell contributed quite a lot to the thought process.



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can i just have my account back...


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March 2017 and no news. game is doomed.



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Why do people pretend like the Engine Update will ever come out?

 

"We had a meeting 2 weeks ago to confirm another meeting to confirm the approval for the meeting regarding adding the game to consoles" <---????????

 

To any of us who have been here the past 6-7 years this just screams more G1 BS. They have like 7 people on staff, one is Tiggs and another is Puck, you really think the remaining 5 people have the technical competence to complete a task of this magnitude?


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They are kinda slow I send a ticket few days and haven't got my first respond saying we are working on the ticket ...

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Maybe if we all band together and make more of these threads again, they'll make another empty blogpost to sate us!



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They are kinda slow I send a ticket few days and haven't got my first respond saying we are working on the ticket ...

 
It's probably all the AFK / dethreating tickets I submit daily. People complain about hackers, yet for me there's a 1-5 hacker/dethreater ratio.

Why do people pretend like the Engine Update will ever come out?

"We had a meeting 2 weeks ago to confirm another meeting to confirm the approval for the meeting regarding adding the game to consoles" <---????????

To any of us who have been here the past 6-7 years this just screams more G1 BS. They have like 7 people on staff, one is Tiggs and another is Puck, you really think the remaining 5 people have the technical competence to complete a task of this magnitude?


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They are kinda slow I send a ticket few days and haven't got my first respond saying we are working on the ticket ...

 

If you weren't assigned a ticket number we didn't get your request. The portion is automated by the system. 


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UP !

we want news and communication !

make a roadmap post plz



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UP !

we want news and communication !

make a roadmap post plz

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If you weren't assigned a ticket number we didn't get your request. The portion is automated by the system.

So should I send another request or wait until I get a ticket?

BTW I did this using my cellphone not my computer.

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Just nerf the rof of the dang oca and reduce the dmg of hvr to 75 also increase the scour dmg to like 60!!

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Just nerf the rof of the dang oca and reduce the dmg of hvr to 75 also increase the scour dmg to like 60!!

HVR looks OP cause DMR is too weak.



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Here is your news. Servers shut down in October.

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Here is your news. Servers shut down in October.

You are welcome.

Lol, better to be a pessimist and get surprised if they actually do something rather than be an optimist who'd end up getting disappointed.


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Sucks to see such a degradation of communication throughout the years, especially when at one point they had video blogs of Q&As, events, development, staff introductions, etc. Back then it seemed that the staff really wanted to connect to the playerbase, especially back when GMs played games alongside the regulars in the War Rock era. 

There were more videos on the G1 youtube but they took them all down.


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Sucks to see such a degradation of communication throughout the years, especially when at one point they had video blogs of Q&As, events, development, staff introductions, etc. Back then it seemed that the staff really wanted to connect to the playerbase, especially back when GMs played games alongside the regulars in the War Rock era. 

There were more videos on the G1 youtube but they took them all down.

I miss this kind of involvement. 


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