I agree with most of this, but I would like to point out that before the changes the Ntec was, both on paper and in my experience playing it, the king of mid range with little contention. The Star fit the jack of all trades roll being both slightly worse ttk wise close range and slightly worse tap fire wise mid range, but then the Ntec out did the Star in almost every way if used well. The only gun that really gave the Ntec a run for its money mid-range to me was an Obeya CR with HB2 which is not what people normally use on the Obeya. While a Star and an Obeya without HB in mid range would in my book be a close fight before all of the changes the Ntec edged both of them out by a bit. There are quite a few other guns as well that could all put up a fight against each other mid range, but just didn't seem to match the Ntec.
That was my problem with the Ntec, Vas-c2, and HVR before the changes with the Ntec actually being the one I had the least problem with. All of them were/are the absolute best at something as far as I am concerned without anything that left them truly vulnerable in any situation. Even the HVR in the test district wasn't that bad cqc if you used cover a bit. If you switched weapons as soon as jumping and used marksmanship mode the whole time you were in the air you had full accuracy as soon as you hit the ground so I got quite a few slow-switches on people where I would tag them a couple times with an fbw, go behind a corner, jump around the corner switching weapons in the air, and kill them the instant I hit the ground. It was certainly more difficult than a standard quick-switch, but it still worked quite well.
I don't have any problem with jack of all trades weapons and I think the Star is a great jack of all trades. The problem is/was that some weapons are a jack of all trades and an ace of one.
I agree with you there. Also, before the buff to the STAR was made to help noobies cope with gun rental cost and opp with 3-slotters and mods, the N-TEC was supposed to be the transitional gun from the STAR. There is a reason why the LCRs were retired from ARMAS, but there is also reason why they originally existed; to give those who wanted to continue to use the STAR, an opportunity to do so on par with 3-slot/mod capabilities. The LCR's were also the only alternative to the N-TEC in the CQC-Mid-Long range class. So you had 1 gun representing 1 unique hybrid range, but it just so happened to be the most versatile of the hybrid ranges, being accessible in 3 ranges rather than 1 or 2. Nowadays, you don't need an LCR to main the STAR...it's good enough stock in most cases, but it's still no N-Tec. I also believe the LCRs were stealth nerfed sometime post STAR buff. I think the stopping power of the gun is just a bit stronger than stock (Which puts them relatively closer to N-TEC, but still sacrifices a hair of TTK for accuracy). I'd gladly be corrected by someone who owns the gun now.
The N-TEC stood out, because with all the hybrids and re-skins, for the longest time there was no true alternative rival to it but another NTEC or one of it's variants. This also causes an inflation in their usage (and in G1s statistics/graphs); when no other gun acts like an N-tec. I don't understand why this is a bad thing though, as it reflects gun distribution on a real-life battlefield. The majority of weapons you see in war are assault rifles- with snipers, suppression (lmgs) and trench fighters (shotties,smgs) sugar coating the rest of the field.
The assault rifle by design is made to be a versatile, balanced weapon that can handle a broad spectrum of range. The AK-47 is tooted as one of the most influential weapons of our time. It's the same issue developers encounter when attempting to balance ranged characters and melee characters in medieval combat. Ranged fighting was the evolution of melee combat, as the AK-47 was a weapon that could rival in the most scenarios. It's not always easy to balance entities such as these.
If they felt that the N-Tec was hurting their profit margin because all their crazy ARMAS guns are unappealing in comparison- They'd be right. make. more. assault. rifles. Bring back the LCRs. You had the right idea with the FAR- but then you went and did all this whacky stuff with the gun mechanics in some attempt to both balance and spice things up at the same time, and I'm kind of running out of words for it...
It's very easy to forgo principles when there is profit to be made. It's a complex that a good portion of the world is facing. We give trophies to kids for being "participants" in competitions they lose, so they don't feel left out. Just as this game is slowly being watered down so casuals don't feel left out or totally defeated by the competitive/hardcore aspect of this community. Instead of teaching people how to play the game better, let's bend the game in their favor; they're happy, and we make money. It's more efficient to dumb a game down, than rely on individual human intelligence of thousands of people to comprehend the curve they have entered into.
Statistically, the competitive/hardcore community of this game, is severely outnumbered by it's casual/carebear community, both physically & financially. And no, I'm not differentiating Bronze/Silver from Gold, because there are plenty of gold and those who teeter on the fence of gold, who don't fall into the category of competitive/hardcore. They are going to bow to the wishes of the majority, even if the majority is wrong- even if the minority is more vocal and to some degree correct. Its the majority that fills their pockets. Granted, there are exceptions; but most veterans have everything they need, and are set in their ways, only changing when patches shift them from their comfort zone. That doesn't make the Reloaded Devlopers and staff bad people, it makes the corporation they work for, a business.
If you're (Qwentle) asking if I'd be willing to go back to RTW TTK, with the bloom mechanic Revo described (and we can forget this mess of other stuff EVER happened); just do it now and take my money.
Ripe and ready for the plucking (of their dollars).
Dried up, aged, and can sit on a shelf (like most do in social).
Never forget, there are health benefits to raisins.
Edited by BuggedOut, 18 August 2015 - 04:56 PM.