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Hey everyone,  So I know that a lot of people want this, but I want to ask you all in general what you think.  My suggestion is for them to bring back the main menu from before the current 3d scenes were implemented.  For me this both is and isn't a nostalgia thing.  

First off I just want to say I mean no offense to Farfletched. Wadsworth is a good song on its own, but the original theme I believe fit the game much better.  As someone said before (I cant remember who said it) It gives a kinda "Calm before the storm" feeling.  It was nice to hear the soft guitar lightly fade in along with all the little glitchy percussion noises when starting up the game rather than being blasted with a fog horn. Here is the main menu that I want back.

 

 

Now to discuss the other reasons why I believe it should be implemented.  It still had the original style of the game.  All those broken glitchy sounds, combined with the moving, constantly re-adjusting graffiti in the background just gave it a vibe that was really unique. The current main menu, in all of its frozen action with a more orchestral sounding song including simple, slow piano and radio chatter, seems overall much more generic.  Pretty much this exact same scene has been done in games over and over since 2001 with Twisted Metal: Black.  Don't believe me? Here's Twisted Metal's intro, and the menus that follow this are all represented in this 3d space of an urban war zone.  Albeit a little wackier than APB's menu, but still the same exact concept and very similar visually.  Yet somehow Twisted Metal still pulls through as looking better to me than APB's current menu despite it being released 14 years ago.  Oh god I feel old.  I remember waiting in anticipation for TM:B's release  :blink:

 

 

Back on topic.  Now lets talk about the performance side of it. Some people may say "But Brandon, you stupid weirdo, I get 120 fps constantly".  Well, not everyone does.  When I start up the game I usually get about 40fps. Though that really isn't bad considering I'm on a 2012 Alienware M17x Laptop, I know for sure it is much worse for some other people. I've tested the game out on older computers and it hardly even wants to run. "Oh but Brandon, that's because they don't meet the specs that the game requires".  The three other computers I've tried it on have pretty much empty hard drives except for the stuff needed to run APB.  One is some 2009-2010 HP XPS (ran a bunch of higher end games perfectly) , one is an iBuyPower Medusa (My previous gaming PC), and the least successful of course was the 2003 Dell Dimension 4800 (I only tried it on this one out of curiosity and as a "dude what if it actually worked lol" kinda thing).

 

All that being said, the game only booted up on two of the older PCs I tried it on and for the two that it ran, well lets just say I'm not a fan of slide shows.  Both of them met the required specs of RTW APB.  I know the specs constantly change with APB, but this is just an example of how poorly optimized the game is.  What this all goes back to is the performance on the main menu is just as bad as in game.  It didn't used to be. Not to mention the actual start up time for the game has doubled due to this 3d menu.

 

So, sorry for the length but the TL:DR version would be:

Re-implement the old main menu / log in screen with the original music and with the new UI.

 

In my opinion the Scaleform UI is the only improvement that was made to the menu.  The 3d scenes were neat at first but now its just old, hearing that ugly "beeeeeeeeeeeewwwwww" sound every time the game starts.

 

 

Edit: Don't forget to rate this in case they actually read it. I doubt it will happen but I would like them to prove me wrong on that.


Edited by BrandonBranderson, 20 March 2015 - 10:59 AM.


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+1 for the sake of nostalgia


 

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The current menu looks like garbage. The siren is just flat out annoying. It doesn't give a war like feeling, it just makes you want to exit the game. The contacts standing in the middle of the road looks like a bunch of greens fighting over a witness mission. The fog is half arsed, glitchy.

The old menu gave me this weird, yet awesome feeling. I can't describe it. It fit in with the story line very well. If you were to read all the contact emails and descriptions while that music was playing, you felt like you were part of the whole story.

From a performance side of things. The old menu loaded instantly. You could get into the action fast, and not have to wait 10-20 seconds for the loading screen to go away. When sending things between characters, the current login menu gets really, really frustrating, so much to the point that I now use a custom login menu so I don't have to sit there waiting for the obnoxious fog horn to load.

The login screen was the biggest waste of effort Reloaded have released. I get we needed a better UI, we didn't need a whole new login screen. Besides, we still have the old UI when in districts, which is where a new UI is needed the most.

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Why would something that causes higher loading times at start-up be okay'd just because it has razzle dazzle?  I don't boot up APB to stare at the pretty log-in screen, I boot it up to hop into a district and play.  The frozen action scenes inhibit that.



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I want the old menu back. brings alot of old memorys..


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Yes please, the new one loads way too long and the new one doesnt represent APB.

 

The old one was APB, the new one isnt.


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Yes please, the new one loads way too long and the new one doesnt represent APB.

 

The old one was APB, the new one isnt.

 

That's pretty much what I'm saying. It seems that the style of this game is slowly being taken away. It seems to be becoming more generic lately and I really don't want to see that happen. G1's shaders made it more so.  The RTW ones were fine, they actually had deep looking shadows and quality bloom that looked possible/realistic.  Not to mention those pretty clouds that RTW had. Know APB was never meant to be realistic, but it had the right feel to it. Now we don't have nice bloom, we have a horrible blue tint that makes everything look cold (In a Californian city...) and on top of that the general unique style of the game over all seems to be in the process of being phased out in favor of a more "Hey look at this, its like those other shooters you kids like" kinda look.  I want to see more of that self adjusting graffiti in menus and hear more of those cool glitchy percussive noises.


Edited by BrandonBranderson, 20 March 2015 - 11:01 AM.


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They won't bring back because of their broken promise about changing everything to Scaleform.

 

While we're at it: BRING BACK TRACERS


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i totally agree with this,

the previous login screen was far too better,it was much more inspiring and "apb suitable" thing than this new fps eater


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Yeah. Old login screen was better. No one wants to open the game to see a loading screen before they even get to the main menu.

 

Pretty sure this is the obvious consensus..would be surprised if G1 reverts.



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i agree as well, bring it back since it didn't load as much stuff as the current login , plus i miss hearing the login song so much qq


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+1

 

I don´t even knew that the Intro looked like that, it looks and sounds awesome, G1 pls bring it back.


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The new intro could have worked, but they've all but abandoned the theme that it was trying to create. Might as well as just shove the old screen back.


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Please do that



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Aww, i remember the old login screen was great.. in 2011.. Bring It Back Plox :)


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Man that old intro.... the feels... mmmm....i would really like it to come back :D +1



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+1 from me.
I do find that the new login screen is a good test of FPS though, it sits generally 10 or so FPS under what i actually play at.(Its sad that its lower then gameplay FPS let alone if it was the same as game FPS)


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What I'd always add to this kind of suggestion is to put it as an option and not as a mandatory thing so that every player could choose for himself if he wants to keep the new or re-implent the old version.


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What I'd always add to this kind of suggestion is to put it as an option and not as a mandatory thing so that every player could choose for himself if he wants to keep the new or re-implent the old version.

You beat me to the punchline. Always keep a option.

 

Plus. I always hated the new APB loadscreen. It eats my FPS and it sounds like electronica hogwash.

 

The old theme song will always give me good vibes logging in. That song was so, so good. Hell it was even up lifting.

 

This new theme is like a pre-teen going emo. It's dank, depressing and abruptly, menacing for apparent reason.



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As much as the old log in background went well with loading screens, representing identity and creative options of this game, the current one fits today's APB better. It's unoptimized, sometimes broken shows what the gameplay is all about: guns, running aroundshooting and even more guns.

 

By the way, still no option to turn off the Armas pop up screen at the start?


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+1 - I Really would like the old load screen back at least, if not the old music as well. It's just better imo.


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I want to see more of that self adjusting graffiti in menus and hear more of those cool glitchy percussive noises.


This ^

This part of your post made me smile and suddenly flooded me with nostalgia,after all, this theme still runs through all the loading screens, it would be more appropriate for that reason alone.

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Good vibes after checking that clip! Not only is the current log in music crap, but also the server selection screen (which used to play RTW's track) that dull traffic noise is literally putting me to sleep.

 

Bottom line: old was way better.


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It's been a couple of days since this was last bumped up.

 

I miss the music, I miss the style. It was quiet and an excellent way to psyche-up before the action.

 

The newer login is loud, intrusive and just irritates me.

 

At least give us an option to choose the older login?



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All good memories back when I watched that video (The Beacon etc), like Infestation's (warZ whatever) main menu song, that scary and amazing:)

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I want the loading screen back, I want the tracers, the original Vegas sound. the old bloom effects with the beautiful clouds, and if the RTW weapon sounds didn't have to be changed in Reloaded Open Beta due to Copyright from EA bring those back too, also I want them to put Britney Bloodrose back in her original location


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I have to agree, I liked the 2011 login screen, and the background music... It gives me goosebumps watching that lol.

 

Anything that increases loading times is a turn off imo


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What I don't understand in the new menu is why every time you enter your first district you're in that WildCats car from Ophelia Customs that no one ever uses.


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What I don't understand in the new menu is why every time you enter your first district you're in that WildCats car from Ophelia Customs that no one ever uses.

 

Yeah I don't get it either.  Probably one of the least popular trucks in the game and its on the district select.  Should put a Gumshoe or the Birth Racing Vegas there because almost everyone has one of those from JMBs.

 

or even better...

 

 

Give us the old menu   :3



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I Agree on that, we need the old login-screen back.

 

Or atleast the option to choose, as other members has suggested aswell.

The 'new' login-screen makes me wanna break my PC.  :badcomputer:



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Greatest idea i've ever seen :D +1

Love that idea <3


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g1.... do it now.

 

 

please?



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+1. I also prefer the character selection before. :/

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Totally agree.



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To be fair, and let's not get confused... I want the old log in screen back, but the new one does allow a lot if things to be pre loaded to RAM. So it has a function. Just not a worthwhile one. I find driving around for 30 seconds before I K up is still necessary anyway so...

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Count me in this is dope!

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I too miss the old login screen. It loaded drastically faster and had a mood about it that encapsulated APB perfectly.


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