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#1 LtSpike Posted: 09 February 2012 - 06:24 PM

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If I were to get 2 / 3 mods for a Ntec, which ones would you guys recommend?
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    #2 Hyburnate Posted: 09 February 2012 - 06:58 PM

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    It depends on your play style.
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      #3 flowCE Posted: 09 February 2012 - 07:24 PM

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      I roll with hunting sight 3 and heavy barrel 2.
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        #4 crede Posted: 09 February 2012 - 08:53 PM

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        either huntingsight3 and coolingjacket3, or coolingjacket 3 and magpull3, my third mod would prolly be 3pointsling

          #5 Viffer Posted: 10 February 2012 - 02:08 AM

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          View Postcrede, on 09 February 2012 - 08:53 PM, said:

          either huntingsight3 and coolingjacket3, or coolingjacket 3 and magpull3, my third mod would prolly be 3pointsling

          Crede knows what he is talking about, although it is pretty hard to use the CJ3/MP3 setup if you are not very familiar with the N-TEC

            #6 Noahthedude Posted: 10 February 2012 - 02:19 AM

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            Cj3 on Ntec? Good luck mate.

            3ps3, HB2 & HS3.

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              #7 Starman Posted: 10 February 2012 - 02:29 AM

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              Cooling Jacket 3, Magazine Pull 3, 3 Point Sling 3. Is great in everyday combat situations.

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                #8 Starman Posted: 10 February 2012 - 02:33 AM Edited: 10 February 2012 - 02:30 AM

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                  #9 Slight Remorse Posted: 10 February 2012 - 01:10 PM

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                  I just put a Heavy Barrel 2 on my N-TEC 5 Nol and it rocks. Suddenly the gun lost it's recoil and became like a mix between Obeya CR762 and STAR 556. Haven't tried it with Hunting Sights though.

                    #10 LtSpike Posted: 10 February 2012 - 02:46 PM

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                    View PostiJeNks, on 09 February 2012 - 07:24 PM, said:

                    I roll with hunting sight 3 and heavy barrel 2.


                    View PostNoahtehdude, on 10 February 2012 - 02:19 AM, said:

                    Cj3 on Ntec? Good luck mate.

                    3ps3, HB2 & HS3.



                    View PostStarman, on 10 February 2012 - 02:29 AM, said:

                    Cooling Jacket 3, Magazine Pull 3, 3 Point Sling 3. Is great in everyday combat situations.


                    View PostSlight Remorse, on 10 February 2012 - 01:10 PM, said:

                    I just put a Heavy Barrel 2 on my N-TEC 5 Nol and it rocks. Suddenly the gun lost it's recoil and became like a mix between Obeya CR762 and STAR 556. Haven't tried it with Hunting Sights though.

                    I've already tried the N-tec with HS2, and it already works wonders. I'll probably try it with CJ / HB and decide on which is better.

                    Is there a major difference between HS2 and HS3, or between tier 2 and tier 3 mods in general?

                    And then i'll check out if I'll put MP or 3PS on when I unlock the 3 slot N-tec.

                    Thanks for all the replies so far!

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                      #11 Slight Remorse Posted: 10 February 2012 - 04:00 PM

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                      View PostLtSpike, on 10 February 2012 - 02:46 PM, said:

                      Is there a major difference between HS2 and HS3, or between tier 2 and tier 3 mods in general?

                      Difference for Heavy Barrel is that with Heavy Barrel 2 it still takes 6 shots to kill. With Heavy Barrel 3 it takes 7.

                        #12 Viffer Posted: 10 February 2012 - 06:05 PM

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                        View PostSlight Remorse, on 10 February 2012 - 04:00 PM, said:

                        Difference for Heavy Barrel is that with Heavy Barrel 2 it still takes 6 shots to kill. With Heavy Barrel 3 it takes 7.

                        Whatever guys, just dont hackusate when you get facestomped by people with CJ3.

                          #13 LtSpike Posted: 10 February 2012 - 07:50 PM

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                          View PostViffer, on 10 February 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

                          Whatever guys, just dont hackusate when you get facestomped by people with CJ3.

                          I'll try it out, but won't CJ cause more bloom?
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                            View PostViffer, on 10 February 2012 - 06:05 PM, said:

                            Whatever guys, just dont hackusate when you get facestomped by people with CJ3.

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                              #15 Simplexity Posted: 10 February 2012 - 08:51 PM

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                              I use cj3, hs3 :D its fun havnt tried cj3 and mp3 tho gonna give that a try :D

                                #16 Viffer Posted: 11 February 2012 - 02:11 AM

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                                View PostSimplexity, on 10 February 2012 - 08:51 PM, said:

                                I use cj3, hs3 :D its fun havnt tried cj3 and mp3 tho gonna give that a try :D

                                Whatever you guys do just dont spray that N-TEC, unless in CQC. Whit HS3/CJ3 you can burst 3 shots at a time with great accuracy or just tap, whilst with MP3/CJ3 you are more focusing on versatility and you are a bit better going in close quarters.
                                N-TEC only has a 50m effective range and without modding any range mod you still have a great marksman-mode. Due to the relative low effective range there is no actual reason to use HS3 because then you might aswell use an Obeya, OBIR, HVR etc. Putting Reflex Sight on N-TEC is a straight drawback since it barely helps in close quarters and at the same time it makes you worthless in marksman-mode.

                                  #17 Starman Posted: 11 February 2012 - 05:17 AM Edited: 11 February 2012 - 05:25 AM

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                                  Like viffer said. HS3 doesn't really help you except you may hit a few more shots at 70m+~. But you'll still be out-gunned by anyone with obir, obeya, sniper, at that range, and not only that, the downsides of HS3 is the increased crosshair in cqc. It grows to almost a ridiculous size in comparison to the small benefit of a smaller crosshair in marksmanship mode. The beneficial gain is much smaller than the downsides imo, since without the HS it's still very good crosshair size within it's optimal range of use.

                                  Since the damage drop starts at 50m, putting HB2 on an ntec works well up to 50m since you can add 1-2 more bullets to each burst. But after that, because you've lowered the damage of each shot, the amount of bullets it takes to kill after 50m increases rapidly. Making it even more useless vs pretty much any other gun.

                                  CJ3 does increase the bloom, but on the n-tec, the crosshair resets very fast so you can still tap-shoot as if it was a normal n-tec at the longer ranges. But since you have the ability to shoot much faster than a normal n-tec, the cj3 will help you a great deal in the close quarter fights where movement is key and you notice that you survive a lot more often vs the smgs and shotguns.

                                  MP3 makes the reload speed a vital part for almost any combat situation. The magsize is still big enough to kill a few players and spray like a madman if need be. The really great thing about this mod is that very often you'll suppress someone behind an object or car, but when you're in need of a reload the enemy will take his chance because most likely he'll get to you (or safety) before you've reloaded and is ready to shoot again. With MP3 you'll more or less always catch them off-guard in the open where they have no cover. It's also very beginner friendly since there's a lot of room for missing shots because of the amount of bullets it has even with the magpull.

                                  3PS3, well there's no downsides about it. And no other mod would be worth using as the third one, at the current state of game, in my opinion.

                                  IR3 on n-tec.. Well 57m before the damage starts to drop ain't necessarily bad. However, since it's another red mod. I'd still prefer using CJ3. There's no real noticeable downsides to using this mod though. So if HB2 or CJ3 doesn't work for you, try IR3.

                                  Obviously these aren't every benefit and downside of the different "valid" mods for the n-tec. But it's enough for me to choose what I need :D

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                                    #18 Dao Posted: 11 February 2012 - 05:56 AM

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                                    Great work Starman. I was always using HS3, HB2 and MP3 but now I'm trying CJ3, MP3 and 3PS3. I must say it feels slightly different but I like the new combo. I'm a lot more dangerous in cqc and I'm not feeling any downsides up to 50m. I can just recommend to try it out. It's not a major difference, don't expect a full automatic joker with a higher range...

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                                      View PostStarman, on 11 February 2012 - 05:17 AM, said:

                                      Like viffer said. HS3 doesn't really help you except you may hit a few more shots at 70m+~. But you'll still be out-gunned by anyone with obir, obeya, sniper, at that range, and not only that, the downsides of HS3 is the increased crosshair in cqc. It grows to almost a ridiculous size in comparison to the small benefit of a smaller crosshair in marksmanship mode. The beneficial gain is much smaller than the downsides imo, since without the HS it's still very good crosshair size within it's optimal range of use.

                                      Since the damage drop starts at 50m, putting HB2 on an ntec works well up to 50m since you can add 1-2 more bullets to each burst. But after that, because you've lowered the damage of each shot, the amount of bullets it takes to kill after 50m increases rapidly. Making it even more useless vs pretty much any other gun.

                                      CJ3 does increase the bloom, but on the n-tec, the crosshair resets very fast so you can still tap-shoot as if it was a normal n-tec at the longer ranges. But since you have the ability to shoot much faster than a normal n-tec, the cj3 will help you a great deal in the close quarter fights where movement is key and you notice that you survive a lot more often vs the smgs and shotguns.

                                      MP3 makes the reload speed a vital part for almost any combat situation. The magsize is still big enough to kill a few players and spray like a madman if need be. The really great thing about this mod is that very often you'll suppress someone behind an object or car, but when you're in need of a reload the enemy will take his chance because most likely he'll get to you (or safety) before you've reloaded and is ready to shoot again. With MP3 you'll more or less always catch them off-guard in the open where they have no cover. It's also very beginner friendly since there's a lot of room for missing shots because of the amount of bullets it has even with the magpull.

                                      3PS3, well there's no downsides about it. And no other mod would be worth using as the third one, at the current state of game, in my opinion.

                                      IR3 on n-tec.. Well 57m before the damage starts to drop ain't necessarily bad. However, since it's another red mod. I'd still prefer using CJ3. There's no real noticeable downsides to using this mod though. So if HB2 or CJ3 doesn't work for you, try IR3.

                                      Obviously these aren't every benefit and downside of the different "valid" mods for the n-tec. But it's enough for me to choose what I need :D


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                                        View PostDao, on 11 February 2012 - 05:56 AM, said:

                                        Great work Starman. I was always using HS3, HB2 and MP3 but now I'm trying CJ3, MP3 and 3PS3. I must say it feels slightly different but I like the new combo. I'm a lot more dangerous in cqc and I'm not feeling any downsides up to 50m. I can just recommend to try it out. It's not a major difference, don't expect a full automatic joker with a higher range...

                                        Is it a 7% increase out of a 100% MAX? or is it 7% of its current rate of fire?
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                                          #21 Chabs Posted: 11 February 2012 - 01:29 PM

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                                          I somehow fell in love with the HB2 mod AFTER trying out CJ. Maybe because of how great it is when spraying at someone who's at, say 20-30 meters.
                                          CJ is, as Starman pointed, really great when dealing with OCAs and such. Even when having a 1v1 vs another assault rifle.

                                          As for IR, I don't use it that much since I don't get to deal with distant targets that often.

                                          I have yet to lose the HS, I keep getting ripped apart by OCAs and shotties at close range.

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                                            On my Cr-5 I use Hunting Sight 3 Heavy barrel 2 and bandolier. A lot of people would argue about bandolier but I go thru enemys and ammo quicky sometimes you aren't in that right position where you cant resupply and the enemys just keep on a comin, which i find myself to be in quite often those extra 3 mags come in handy. Most suckish part of being on a roll, it means ur almost out of ammo.
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                                              By the way, something I never really got to test, but always wondered about. Is the N-TEC accurate at CQC when crouching, but not in Marksman mode? As in does the accuracy drop a lot or is it similar to that of a Marksman mode fire? CQC in this case means 4-5 meters.

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                                                View PostSlight Remorse, on 11 February 2012 - 03:58 PM, said:

                                                By the way, something I never really got to test, but always wondered about. Is the N-TEC accurate at CQC when crouching, but not in Marksman mode? As in does the accuracy drop a lot or is it similar to that of a Marksman mode fire? CQC in this case means 4-5 meters.

                                                It is similar to the accuracy of marksmanship mode, but not as accurate (especially with hunting sight)
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                                                  View PostLtSpike, on 11 February 2012 - 01:18 PM, said:

                                                  Is it a 7% increase out of a 100% MAX? or is it 7% of its current rate of fire?

                                                  It is 7% faster calculated on your current rate of fire.
                                                  N-TEC fires a bullet each 0.14 seconds at full fire rate. So take 0.14 and multiply by 0.93 and you should come out with a fire rate of 0.1302 seconds per shot fired which then reduces the TTK fram 0.7 seconds to 0.65 seconds.
                                                  There is not really a max fire rate. SHAW is for example listed as maxed out rate of fire (0.08s interval), but the secondary N-FA 9 shoots alot faster (0.05s interval) .

                                                  For the thing with the mods I have personally used HS3/CJ3 most of the times and then had a Joker RFP as a close range weap. The HS3 makes you able to hit that one more bullet in mid range before the bloom goes crazy. But all in all the HS mod rly cripples you in CQC.
                                                  I would refer to Starmans previous post in this thread, you can find all the mod info for N-TEC you that you need.

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                                                    View PostViffer, on 11 February 2012 - 10:16 PM, said:

                                                    It is 7% faster calculated on your current rate of fire.
                                                    N-TEC fires a bullet each 0.14 seconds at full fire rate. So take 0.14 and multiply by 0.93 and you should come out with a fire rate of 0.1302 seconds per shot fired which then reduces the TTK fram 0.7 seconds to 0.65 seconds.
                                                    There is not really a max fire rate. SHAW is for example listed as maxed out rate of fire (0.08s interval), but the secondary N-FA 9 shoots alot faster (0.05s interval) .

                                                    For the thing with the mods I have personally used HS3/CJ3 most of the times and then had a Joker RFP as a close range weap. The HS3 makes you able to hit that one more bullet in mid range before the bloom goes crazy. But all in all the HS mod rly cripples you in CQC.
                                                    I would refer to Starmans previous post in this thread, you can find all the mod info for N-TEC you that you need.

                                                    Ahh. That really helped

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                                                    View PostDao, on 11 February 2012 - 05:56 AM, said:

                                                    Great work Starman. I was always using HS3, HB2 and MP3 but now I'm trying CJ3, MP3 and 3PS3. I must say it feels slightly different but I like the new combo. I'm a lot more dangerous in cqc and I'm not feeling any downsides up to 50m. I can just recommend to try it out. It's not a major difference, don't expect a full automatic joker with a higher range...

                                                    The 3PS3 only makes you equip it faster, right?
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                                                      EM3 and CJ3, and RS3 when you get a 3 slot.

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                                                        View Postproxie, on 12 February 2012 - 08:38 AM, said:

                                                        EM3 and CJ3, and RS3 when you get a 3 slot.

                                                        Dont put RS3 in the N-TEC, please. It gosh darns up your marksman-mode and the benefits are so small that you wont notice it. N-TEC is best played without range mod, HS3 is viable with a CQC secondary though. Reflec sight is only beneficial for OCA/PMG.
                                                        For a 3 sot N-TEC go for:
                                                        CJ3/HS3/3PS3 or any ammo mod of your choice.
                                                        CJ3/MP3/3PS3

                                                        And yes. 3-point sling reduces the equip time, which means you can draw faster and start shooting faster after getting out of a vehicle or climbing a ladder etc.

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                                                          View PostViffer, on 12 February 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

                                                          Dont put RS3 in the N-TEC, please. It gosh darns up your marksman-mode and the benefits are so small that you wont notice it. N-TEC is best played without range mod, HS3 is viable with a CQC secondary though. Reflec sight is only beneficial for OCA/PMG.
                                                          For a 3 sot N-TEC go for:
                                                          CJ3/HS3/3PS3 or any ammo mod of your choice.
                                                          CJ3/MP3/3PS3

                                                          And yes. 3-point sling reduces the equip time, which means you can draw faster and start shooting faster after getting out of a vehicle or climbing a ladder etc.
                                                          No.

                                                          The mods i listed are better.

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                                                            oh my!, reflex sight? what the hell are they teaching you in 8bit lol.

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                                                              View Postcrede, on 12 February 2012 - 09:59 AM, said:

                                                              oh my!, reflex sight? what the hell are they teaching you in 8bit lol.
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                                                                View PostStarman, on 12 February 2012 - 10:18 AM, said:

                                                                Obvious and excessive trolling. <3
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                                                                  Another thing I always wondered what's better, bursts or semi-auto fire on the N-TEC. Since I never really managed to grasp the fire 3 shots and calm the recoil, but rather going semi-auto. Am I doing it wrong though?

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                                                                    View PostSlight Remorse, on 12 February 2012 - 11:12 AM, said:

                                                                    Another thing I always wondered what's better, bursts or semi-auto fire on the N-TEC. Since I never really managed to grasp the fire 3 shots and calm the recoil, but rather going semi-auto. Am I doing it wrong though?
                                                                    Single fire bursts.

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                                                                      Tap-shooting is the way to go.
                                                                      "Mouse-one-ing" works wonders when the target's close with HB2.

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                                                                        View Postproxie, on 12 February 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

                                                                        Single fire bursts.

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                                                                          #37 LtSpike Posted: 14 February 2012 - 08:00 PM

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                                                                          View PostChabs, on 13 February 2012 - 08:43 AM, said:

                                                                          "Mouse-one-ing" works wonders when the target's close with HB2.

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                                                                            #38 Noxlol Posted: 15 February 2012 - 12:45 AM

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                                                                            3 groups of 2-shot bursts without HB2.
                                                                            A 4-shot burst followed by a 2-shot burst with HB2.
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                                                                              #39 kukki Posted: 15 February 2012 - 01:57 AM Edited: 15 February 2012 - 02:08 AM

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                                                                              If you really like N-Tec and prefer using it at all times, I'd advice changing mods depending on situations.
                                                                              Depends mostly on current stage in mission instances and on weapons which your teammates are using.

                                                                              There's already some great mod suggestions on this topic, excuse me if someone already suggested the ones which I'm about to:


                                                                              HB2
                                                                              HS3 / HB 2
                                                                              HS3 / IR 2-3
                                                                              HS3 / CJ 1-2-3
                                                                              MP3 / CJ 1-2-3
                                                                              EM2 / HB 2

                                                                              Well, it really depends on your play style, you should just try out one of the combinations you like and then try using higher or lower levels of same mods, but to do that, you need to understand what exactly every mod does.
                                                                              And highest level mod is of course not always the best choice, 'cause of its cons.


                                                                              And, hell, I've seen people using HB 3 / RS3 and doing Great. I don't like such mods on ntec, but it definetly works.


                                                                              For the third mod:
                                                                              3PS is always good, on literally ALL weapons.
                                                                              Blue Mod of your choice. All of them do good on n-tec, again, depends on your play style.

                                                                              Good Luck! :3


                                                                              edit: that's a great suggestion over my post. but in my opinion, you just need to try and feel how should you shoot, instead of trying to learn a certain bursting tactic.
                                                                              and if any not-very-experienced players are reading this- increase/ decrease yor sensitivity every few missions/ every day, until you find one perfect for you. the higher the sensitivity the more you'll be able to do, though too high sensitivity might be worse than too low
                                                                              and the bottom line. n-tec's vs nt-tec's with different mods:


                                                                              MP3 / CJ 1-2-3 owns any other ntec at close range, mostly 'cause of Cooling Jacket

                                                                              HS3 / IR 2-3 owns any other ntec at long range, both mods have big factors here

                                                                              Middle range might vary A LOT on situation and there's not really any mod combos which have huge advantage over other/similar ones at this range.

                                                                              So, again, I advice testing various mod combos in various situations and I wish you to find your favorite N-Tec Mod-out! Good luck! :3

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                                                                                #40 WarCannon Posted: 15 February 2012 - 02:00 AM

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                                                                                i have heard HS3-CJ2-EM3 but eh


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